I think that if Mr Irwin is being honest and Mrs. Irwin asked Edith not to hold the vigils at the house anymore because it was stressing out the boys then she (Edith) should have put that in her statement. Instead of saying The vigils are stopping at the request of DB (which caused a whole lot of uproar) She could have said something like tonight is the last night the vigil will be held at the Irwin residence. It is overwhelming for the other 2 children living there so we have been asked to move to another location. IMO that would have made less news, but also made the last vigil more about Lisa and less about the reason why DB didn't want the vigils there anymore and how horrible she is.
11/29/2011 Final prayer vigil for Lisa Irwin
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Even if they (DB or JI) included that in any statement would folks then direct their anger towards the boys? Or blame the parents for not explaining it to them, or telling them to deal with it. Maybe they left it out because they shouldn't have to explain to anyone why they don't want strangers in their front yard.
It's a lose lose situation anyway I look at it. I honestly feel that it doesn't matter where you pray, as God will hear you no matter where you are. IMHO, I think there's another motive to these vigils and it's not about Baby Lisa. If last night is any indication, then the occupants of the home are not able to live in a peaceful dwelling. I say that because someone (and I don't know who that someone is) yelled at the parents as they left (according to a family member). Now is that a Christian/Godly thing to do while you're supposed to be praying for Baby Lisa? I think not. And this gives me reason to believe that not everyone praying in front of the home has good intentions.
Yes, I do believe the vigils should be moved away -- regardless of how I feel about this case (and I'm not in support of the parents).
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Sorry I meant that Edith should have included that in her statement she made about the vigils being stopped. It would have explained a lot rather then the blanket statement she made which had people guessing the reasons. Also I think it would have made the vigil more about Baby Lisa had she not made it seem like DB was telling people not to pray for her daughter instead of the fact they just wanted the vigils moved to a different location. And just to add ITA with your post
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Thank you for this post. I like reading your posts. I am aware that you do not support the parents. I like that you are able to read articles/posts and balance the information accordingly. It is good to be able to be objective in this case; there is so much craziness surrounding it. :rocker:
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I, too, was just checking in and am as shocked and angry as you are, dog.gone.cute.! I feel exactly as you do. I am also very saddened.
*This next paragraph is not directed at anyone in particular.
*I do not know why all this continues to come up about the justice system. We are not even anywhere near a trial here. LE has not named anyone 'suspects', but also do not clear the parents or anyone else close to Baby Lisa's missing persons case. No one has been arrested and charged. While it has been conveyed that LE has moved on from Jersey (IIRC), LE has not come out and stated that he definately had nothing to do with it. It is my opinion that one or both of the parents know what happened to Baby Lisa. While I am stating my opinion on anything here, I do not have to consider the letter of the law as if I were on a jury or participating in the case in a court of law. My opinion is just my opinion.
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E: I thanked your post when I read it this morning but couldn't respond while the thread was locked. As it turns out, the request to not have future vigils at the Irwin home is third-party information, at best. I'll take it for what it is: He and/or she said, she said, she said, we heard. Whatever
Deborah and Jeremy both seem very immature; they deserve each other. jmo
IMHO..They may deserve each other but for certain the boys don't deserve either of them for parents...JMHO
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It takes more than egg+sperm to = parents. jmo
Wow. I had no idea this group was holding nightly vigils in the family's front yard. Really, how incredibly invasive, if they haven't been invited.
I think we all know people who reach out to strangers when they are suffering a tragedy, and welcome the support of strangers, and we know people who don't. I think we can all remember occasions when friends or acquaintances refused offers of help or meals during times of family crisis, saying we really appreciate it but need this time to grieve privately.
That's a teeny tiny front yard. The people would be like, on their doorstep every night. Who could tolerate that? Not me. Especially since they seem vaguely threatening.
I think we all know people who reach out to strangers when they are suffering a tragedy, and welcome the support of strangers, and we know people who don't. I think we can all remember occasions when friends or acquaintances refused offers of help or meals during times of family crisis, saying we really appreciate it but need this time to grieve privately.
That's a teeny tiny front yard. The people would be like, on their doorstep every night. Who could tolerate that? Not me. Especially since they seem vaguely threatening.
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Some have 2 pages you can't open. :crazy:
I read on the admin threads that it has been addressed they are working on it.
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I am lighting a white candle for Lisa now.
I'm not worried about violence. I think this group is invested in Lisa - they have been praying and searching for 2 months. It's probably become a big part of their lives. Whatever the parents' reasons for not wanting the vigils at their home, it is their right. I think these are kind people who probably just don't understand right now and feel rejected or unappreciated temporarily. It will pass, imo. The end of vigils at the house may also represent a dwindling of hope that Lisa will be found soon, for some. Lots of emotions. None of which seem to be coming from hate or darkness, imo... JMO...
Baby Lisa looks EXACTLY like Deborah...I hope she did not hurt this child
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The family has asked to MOVE the nightly vigil from in front of their house . . . just heard on AM radio - searching for a link
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011...OC20111130?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
"Vigils by a large number of people on their front lawn is a spectacle, disturbing to their neighbors, and disruptive, especially to their young sons, in their attempt to return to as normal a family life as possible under the circumstances," lawyers John Picerno of Kansas City and Joe Tacopina said an e-mail Wednesday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011...OC20111130?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
"Vigils by a large number of people on their front lawn is a spectacle, disturbing to their neighbors, and disruptive, especially to their young sons, in their attempt to return to as normal a family life as possible under the circumstances," lawyers John Picerno of Kansas City and Joe Tacopina said an e-mail Wednesday.
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I would not want strangers on my lawn every single night either...Guilty or not.
Thank you.. Glad to know it isn't just my computer..I've been wondering the same for the past two days..
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Yllek,
Thanks for the photos. Before I even read your post, I thought that in these photos especially she resembles Debbie very much. (Great minds think alike!)
I am on the fence about whether DB/JI are involved because I think she was a very loved and well cared for little girl. These photos break my heart.
Thanks for the photos. Before I even read your post, I thought that in these photos especially she resembles Debbie very much. (Great minds think alike!)
I am on the fence about whether DB/JI are involved because I think she was a very loved and well cared for little girl. These photos break my heart.
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They have two boys who are alive and in the home, who have the right to try and get back to as normal as possible.
Plus, it's not really fair to judge the parents for the lawyer's specific words. They clearly have the same POV - they want the vigils off the front lawn, but whether JI and DB consider it a nuisance and/or a spectacle we don't know. They may just consider it a distraction and a disturbance to their other two children.
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