Yes, SA did request that all information concerning this case be removed from the SPD website. Information concerning this request is on the SPD site.
Absolutely not. Trayvon's parents were divorced. Was he not supposed to visit with his father? Perhaps his dad had every other weekend visitation? If Trayvon hadn't been suspended and was just up visiting for the weekend, would it have made it a sadder story? How dare Trayvon be suspended from school, let's just murder him and be done with it.
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BBM, Angelmom, ITA. We have a large extended family. My niece is a softball player at UC Santa Barbara, our youngest son plays football and baseball, our cousin is a basketball center for UC Santa Clara, etc..
In addition to the kids having their team hoodies, we have hoodies for each team to show our support at games. We also get the kids other hoodies because its cold in the mornings, but gets too warm for a coat in the afternoon. They can fold hoodies and put them in their backpacks.
I was done with this post but I had to add this...my fiance just walked in the room. He is a black male. 6', 185 lbs. He has on jeans and a black hoodie. He has a Glock .45 holstered on his waistband under his hoodie. I can't see it. I just know that because I know he doesn't leave home without it.
By GZ's description of a suspicious person, my fiance would definitely fit the bill. But in addition to the hoodie, the gun and Black skin, he also has a badge. He's a veteran cop in Richmond, CA, one of the most crime ridden cities in the country. He has never had to shoot a suspect.
Police officers are trained to deal with situations like the one GZ created. GZ was not trained but the law allowed him to carry a gun and make his own determination of when he should use it. I think the law makers are even more at fault than GZ.
GZ had no idea who he was following. It could've been a cop..or just a kid walking around. He automatically assumed the worst. You should never judge a book by its cover.
You and I see it differently. I don't think that Zimmerman, who was carrying a gun, would choose to physically attack Trayvon. Makes no sense to me.
Yes. And that's how it worked out. Grappling is for fun, though, and the opponents don't have to defend their lives. They can "tap out" and the match stops immediately.
Too bad GZ couldn't do that.
Jenna T, your comment about "shooting to kill" reminded me of a question that I wanted to ask a few days ago. Why did GZ shoot to kill. Only cops are trained to shoot to kill? I think there is something delusional about GZ by those actions. Did he have to kill TM? He could have shot him in the foot and gotten his attention. It would have definately quelled the fight and by that time the cops would have arrived. Why did he aim for the kill?
A Conversation With Trayvon Martin's Mother
I have no time for anger. I don't want to grant it a place in my heart. I simply want justice. I don't hate him and I'm not angry at him. But my son died and we deserve to know what happened. It's not for the police to determine justice. It's for the courts. And we'll stand by what the court says. But that's what I'm focused on. We want an arrest. But it's not out of anger or hatred. I have too much to do to be sidetracked with any of that. But when your son dies and there isn't even an arrest, it makes it so much harder.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-shmuley-boteach/sybrina-fulton-trayvon-martin_b_1409832.html
No, I'm not saying that at all. I was just thinking to myself that if it was a Sunday night then he would be getting ready for school in Miami and would not have been there. But, you're right it could have been spring break or a holiday but I don't think on that Sunday, Feb. 26th he would have been there at that time at that moment had he not been suspended. I'm just trying to turn back the clock that's all. I know, it sounds crazy...
Jenna T, your comment about "shooting to kill" reminded me of a question that I wanted to ask a few days ago. Why did GZ shoot to kill. Only cops are trained to shoot to kill? I think there is something delusional about GZ by those actions. Did he have to kill TM? He could have shot him in the foot and gotten his attention. It would have definately quelled the fight and by that time the cops would have arrived. Why did he aim for the kill?
I really wish we had an autopsy report. I would like to know what injuries Trayvon had, besides the fatal gunshot wound, because everything that has come out from George's side has made it seem like George just sat back and allowed Trayvon to beat on him and 45 seconds later, he had snapped out of it and grabbed his gun?
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And what other reason would GZ have in telling op to have LE call him when they arrived, except that he knew he wasn't going to be in one place, but would be trailing TM!?
I can see that. I don't think that's the most likely, but I can see a situation where GZ may have put his hand on Trayvon's shoulder, although I don't think that's what happened. Maybe. It's possible.
That doesn't mean that GZ has to die for doing that. At the point where he was being pummeled, he had every right to shoot to kill.
This case is an example of two hotheads getting crosswise with each other. But that doesn't mean Zimmerman gives up his right to live.
It is much easier to shoot someone into the body mass than into the foot.
That's why policemen are trained to shoot into body mass. Why do you expect private citizen be able to shoot better than trained policemen?
Well that funeral home director claimed he had none.
It is much easier to shoot someone into the body mass than into the foot.
That's why policemen are trained to shoot into body mass. Why do you expect private citizen be able to shoot better than trained policemen?
Similar article is HERE:NBC Fires Producer of Misleading Zimmerman Tape
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/06/nbc-fires-producer-of-misleading-zimmerman-tape/
NBC News has fired a producer who was involved in the production of a misleading segment about the Trayvon Martin case in Florida.
LE is trained to not shoot until necessary and to try to disarm the suspect if at all possible. But TM was not armed. LE also does have numerous ways to disarm and secure a suspect so shooting someone is a last resort. My son-in-law is a sharp shooter and could shoot the gun right out of someone's hand so why would he aim for the body mass. LE has to qualify regularily on the police shooting range so they don't have to kill suspects. It's really, really the last thing a police officer wants to do. And I know they receive extensive training on how to disarm a suspect. GZ did not have that advantage and that is another reason why he should have waited.
If TM were on top of GZ TM's leg would have been right there. That would have certainly put a stop to the wrestling because TM would have rolled off of him. I hate to say it but I think GZ knew exactly what he was doing and TM is not alive to give a conflicting story. IMO, GZ truly might have thought this was all going to blow over. jmo