They DID....that came out at the very beginning from someone in the HOA. There had been a recent meeting where complaints were made about Zimmerman and his overly aggressive behavior and sending repeated emails about young black males, etc. So much that one young black male said he was afraid to leave his home because he "fit" the profile that GZ kept emailing to residents. I believe it was a video interview from early on in the case, so I don't know if it is still available anywhere.
jmo
Teontae Ami, who also lives in the Retreat at Twin Lakes community, said very few black teenagers like himself live in the neighborhood.
Teontae, 17, said he and a close friend who is black would sit at the end of a driveway in the evening and felt uncomfortable when Zimmerman would pass them on a neighborhood patrol.
They used to greet him, but he never responded, Teontae said.
"I think he took his job too seriously," Teontae said, referring to Zimmerman's watch patrols. A student, Teontae said his friend was once confronted by Zimmerman, who accused him of stealing a bike.
"I don't want to call it a black thing, but it sure seemed like it," said Teontae, who said the bike was never stolen.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-20120320,0,2238687.story?page=1
Yup. He shoved his 2 yr old brother into a shelf and fractured his skull.His mom, who abused and tortured him all of his life, refused to take the 2 yr old in for medical help. That assured it was a death and not just an injury. And this 12 yr old is probably going to get LIFE in prison. But as the prosecutor says, The law is the law, and it is not her job to be compassionate here. Oh well.
I may be wrong, but didn't the dispatcher ask GZ near what address he saw TM?
GZ did not know the exact address, when on the phone.
ZIMMERMAN: When the dispatcher said we know longer need you to do that, and George acknowledged OK. He no longer knew where Trayvon was. So he continued walking down the sidewalk directly in front of him to the next street to get an address. He got an address.
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hanni...-trayvon-martin-shooting?page=2#ixzz1rpcFDhlK
911 dispatcher:
Are you following him? [2:24]
Zimmerman:
Yeah. [2:25]
911 dispatcher:
OK.
We dont need you to do that. [2:26]
911 dispatcher:
Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]
Zimmerman:
Um, I dont know. Its a cut-through so I dont know the address. [3:25]
I think people should watch Rashomon whenever they follow a case. I don't think there is one truth. Everyone involved sees and hears things through their own prism of perspective. So, we never get an ultimate truth just a facisimile of a replica and something is lost in the transcribing process.
You need to read more than one article about the Christian Fernandez case, he also has charges pending against him for raping his other 5 year old half brother. His mother has already pled guilty of manslaughter. There is more to the CF case than one article can explain.
Or his attorney might find it easier to stay in contact with GZ if he is under lock and key. None of that pesky cell phone "out of range, dropped call" stuff. :winko:
I think he had made in his mind a certain profile of criminals in the neighborhood, saw someone that fit that profile, and was intent on stopping any criminal action from occurring. He was so focused on criminals and crime that it never occurred to him that this could just be some kid walking home from the store. If anything, he had the intent to stop anyone that was going to commit a crime in his neighborhood, even if it meant shooting and killing a criminal. That is the problem I see here. It wasn't Trayvon in particular, it could have been anyone with a hoodie on, walking through that neighborhood late at night.
His biggest problem is that if someone, anyone, fits his idea of a criminal, then he automatically assumes that person is a criminal, and it's okay to use to deadly force if necessary on that person. That, to me, is malicious intent on anyone who happens to fit his profile, and that is very scary to me. It's generous and kind that Trayon's mom thinks it was an accident, but to me, it wasn't. Once he made up his mind that he saw a criminal in his neighbhorhood, it was game on to stop that criminal at any cost. And it's even scarier that he's rationalized what he did so quickly, and has just wanted it to blow over. Being a criminal doesn't mean someone deserves to be shot and killed. And the saddest part is, Trayvon wasn't even a criminal.
That makes sense but when on the phone he was asked...But unless Trayvon went into a house, they would not need an exact address unless they were actually expecting him to stand still at that address and wait for them. The name of the street and a general idea of how far down the street or on what sidewalk would do. Do we really think that our neighborhood watch guy who patrolls diligently would not know the names of the three streets in his neighborhood? IMO JMHO and stuff.
The problem is that George seemed to be "projecting" his fears onto anyone he saw walking around his . . . what would call it . . . territory, perhaps?
What George had were strong opinions about people, but that didn't make them true, or we wouldn't be here talking about Trayvon.
And just because there was some other guy who lived there that George was right about (as per the story by Frank Taaffe on Jane Velez-Mitchell) and who was eventually arrested, didn't mean that George had some type of sixth sense about perpetrators, especially when they weren't actually doing anything illegal.
I'm honestly surprised that people didn't complain to either Neighborhood Watch or the Neighborhood Association. I bet we hear eventually that they did, but George had friends there who took up for him.
Does anyone know how many bullets the gun that GZ used to kill Travon holds? TIA I don't know alot about firearms other than bb guns and shot guns.
wm
This defendant is the youngest person to ever be charged as an adult with murder in Jacksonville, Florida.
He is 12 years old.
If convicted, could spend the rest of his life in prison. His name is Cristian Fernandez.
Yes, I have compassion for Cristian Fernandez, but it's not my job to forgive, says Florida State Attorney Angela Corey. It's my job to follow the law."
Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/ne...fernandezs-case-sparks-outrage/#ixzz1rntBKCIw
The problem is that George seemed to be "projecting" his fears onto anyone he saw walking around his . . . what would call it . . . territory, perhaps?
What George had were strong opinions about people, but that didn't make them true, or we wouldn't be here talking about Trayvon.
And just because there was some other guy who lived there that George was right about (as per the story by Frank Taaffe on Jane Velez-Mitchell) and who was eventually arrested, didn't mean that George had some type of sixth sense about perpetrators, especially when they weren't actually doing anything illegal.
I'm honestly surprised that people didn't complain to either Neighborhood Watch or the Neighborhood Association. I bet we hear eventually that they did, but George had friends there who took up for him.
http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimes/homicide/second-degree-murder.htmlMurder with a Depraved Mind
Murder with a Depraved Mind occurs when a person is killed, without any premeditated design, by an act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind showing no regard for human life.
The primary distinction between Premeditated First Degree Murder and Second Degree Murder with a Depraved Mind is that First Degree Murder requires a specific and premeditated intent to kill.
http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/se...urder/florida/To prove second degree murder, a prosecutor must show that the defendant acted according to a "depraved mind" without regard for human life. Florida state laws permit the prosecution of second degree murder when the killing lacked premeditation or planning, but the defendant acted with enmity toward the victim or the two had an ongoing interaction or relationship. Unlike first degree murder, second degree murder does not necessarily require proof of the defendant's intent to kill.
Thanks. That does, however, present somewhat of a conundrum for me.
Any thoughts on how George knew at [2:26] the dispatcher was even gonna ask for an address 55 seconds LATER at [3:21]?
Or why, after getting the address as Mr. Zimmerman stated, George still said he didnt know the address at [3:25]?
Wow, really great piece of sleuthing there Papa, that kinda blows his I was getting an address statement to kindom come....When you lay it out like that it looks like a LIE...IMO JMHO and stuff.