Respectfully, do you have a link to this? I thought we don't even know the exact location where the body was located, much less the positioning.
Yes, that would be significant. I haven't heard that until now.
Respectfully, do you have a link to this? I thought we don't even know the exact location where the body was located, much less the positioning.
In the words of Tom Petty......The waiting is the hardest part...
I'd love to see them also.
My top 3 evidence items are:
1. Forensics you mentioned above
2. GZs actual statements
3. TM autopsy and TOX results
On the school information as to TM's disciplinary record. Obviously there was a LOT of deleting going on, because we went from 106 pages to SIX, but yesterday, many of the TM supporters were calling for the HEAD of WHOEVER leaked the school info. Quoting FERPA, listing Florida LAW, calling for peole to be FIRED over it, maybe even PROSECUTED. Of course, THAT was the info that listed criminal acts by TM. Now that the TEACHER, whom they KNOW THE NAME OF, has said something POSITIVE, while ALSO releasing confidential information about the discipline record, can't even be question about TRUTH. They believe her WHOLE HEARTEDLY, and are defending her from people pointing out inconsistencies.
So why not call for her to be FIRED? She BROKE THE LAW and released CONFIDENTIAL discplinary records, why the change is stance? :waitasec:
I'm not sure we're all thinking of patio doors in the same way. To me, patio doors would be the sliding glass type doors that lead from a home to the patio. Sounds like you may be talking about gate-type doors on a fence surrounding a patio?
Does anyone know what those white square-ish things in the grass area to the right are?
John's patio was closed in by three walls, one upon which there was a gate. It was the brown one you see in the videos taken that night.
Looks like water meters to me. Someone said they use plastic covers for them. Ours here are made of cast iron.
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Requoting part of a quote that you were replying to:
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And so which officer did you tell that to? You made five statements I believe, total.
ZIMMERMAN: Yes, sir, I'm sorry, all the names run together. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
That part was said when he was being questioned about whether he felt remorseful for what had happened. It was NOT an admission to making 5 statements. JMO
Further down SA asks the question about the inconsistencies in those five statements.
I would also like to know if GZ had any blood on his hands or clothing?
And, did they take his jacket, shirt, pants, shoes, flashlights or belt for examination?
Did GZ have any concrete type material, dirt, debris or grass mixed in with the blood on the back of his head?
Finally, was Trayvon's hood still up?
A bit like what happens here, in fact.
He didn't make a statement that he's sorry when he was questioned. No, wait, he doesn't remember. No, wait, he believes he did. Yes, in fact he is fairly certain that he did. He even remembers there were both males and females in the room. He doesn't remember what he said. Oh, he remembers he felt sorry. He didn't know if the officers were going to communicate it to the family, he just made the statement. No, wait, he actually asked them to communicate it to the family and they agreed.
According to this video, their interview of John, and the Seminole County Appraiser's site, I believe you will find that John lives in the unit next to the one on the end with the screen enclosure you seem to be referencing.
John's unit has no enclosure.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/new...n-shot-and-killed-in-neighborhood-altercation
The thumbnail image below is from the Seminole Appraiser's site with his last name and co owner's name removed.
Papa,
There is also an owner named JON.. spelled different, but pronounced the same as John. Per the Seminole appraisers site, his apt, is 2861 Retreat View Circle, which is down the stretch that GZ walked to get the address for dispatch. Directly overlooking the T.
I think it was pretty clear what SA asked him and GZ answer was clear. He answered both questions. "Yes" there were 5 statement and "all the names run together" (so he could not identify the officers). One yes is a positive statement and the other is a negative response. So he was answering two questions. jmo
Something just came to me:
At the time of the first questioning and at the time of the re-enactment, GZ, the police, RZ Sr nor any of the "witnesses" knew that TM was on a phone call at the exact moment that he and Trayvon came face to face and less than a minute later Trayvon was dead.
Is secrecy justified in George Zimmerman case?
Experts question whether evidence can remain under wraps
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Is...7132/12514756/-/item/0/-/j4gnokz/-/index.html
Interesting information.
I'm not talking about the inconsistencies which the investigator rightfully indentified as inconsistencies within the statements he gave. I'm talking about the fact that he just testified and agreed that he gave 5 statements and then later claimed he only gave 3 statements. That, in itself, is an inconsistent statement. On the stand he have proven he has some credibility problems. jmo
I think GZ's statement comes into question because TM's feet were facing the pavement. If GZ only moved his head slightly to get it off the cement sidewalk just prior to shooting TM how did TM's body get so far away from the pavement and his head facing the building if he was on top of GZ in that location. Plus GZ claims TM attacked him on the cut through cross walk when TM's body was found yards away from the cut through area. Plus one statement was that TM fell backwards but was found face down with his hands under his body. jmo
Is secrecy justified in George Zimmerman case?
Experts question whether evidence can remain under wraps
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Is...7132/12514756/-/item/0/-/j4gnokz/-/index.html
Interesting information.
Papa,
There is also an owner named JON.. spelled different, but pronounced the same as John. Per the Seminole appraisers site, his apt, is 2861 Retreat View Circle, which is down the stretch that GZ walked to get the address for dispatch. Directly overlooking the T.