part 2 continued:
Det.'s talking to Cindy about her frustrations-
Cindy- It's very hard every day to see...
Det- I understand what you're up against, because this is the stuff we're up against all the time also. People's preconceived notions about things. "One of the things we don't do is jump to conclusions. We take our time and we look at everything and put it all together and let it take us where it takes us".
Cindy- Why are we a month or 3 weeks after... 4 weeks now. to do a time line with the family?"
Det-Probably because they were doing a lot of other things.
Cindy-"Those other things were trying to build a case against Casey. Casey may be a liar but she didn't murder her daughter"
Det- That's what we're gonna try to prove.
(2 detectives explaining to her they've been working on time line themselves for at least 2 weeks.)
Cindy said they're doing Caylee an injustice by not doing time line sooner and focusing on Casey.
Cindy- Why do you think Casey took down to that Glenwood or Glenmore (?) apartment complex?
Det- maybe she was familiar with it?
Cindy- Who lives in that complex. Ricardo and Amy lived there in that complex). IF she was stepping back enough.. everybody can speculate or whatever.
I think Casey got mixed up with some bad people- Ricardo, Amy and Tony. Who I've just learned are all intertwined, they're all into drugs.. We've talked to another agency. They're all into drugs- They all know each other very well. for Amy telling me she's only been at Tony's apartment once has to be a lie, cuz she's known him- she's the one that introduced them. Tony and Ricardo go way back. Casey's mixed up somehow. And they have the money and means and Casey has been maintaining all along that there's physical threats against this family. Or harm to if she comes clean and tells where Caylee's at"
Det asks if they (threats?) could be coming from Amy and Ricardo, Cindy says she doesn't know.
Cindy- My understanding is that they both have connections with people who have money, have a way to make people disappear, has the means to threaten. Casey's scared. I can see it on her face. She's trying to give us clues. I've been saying that from day one...
"I can have Casey out today, I want you to know. The bail money is not an issue. I think it's a safety issue for Casey and Caylee, keeping her *advertiser censored* there. If the media is still pointing fingers at Casey, everybody else is ok. If we get off our butt and look for these people.. start looking at these other possibilities, we'll find who these other people are, and find Caylee
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/murtwitnessone-live
Interview with Cindy (part 1).. for me, it's the middle row, blue square directly in the middle. (Part two would be one over to the right from the middle).
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part 2 continued:
"If we get off our butt and look for these people.. start looking at these other possibilities, we'll find who these other people are, and find Caylee."
Det- We've invited investigative bodies to the party that works those types of scenarios, Just so you know..
looking into the phone records and things of that nature..seeing if one of those things maybe popped up in a large scale narcotics investigation .. Rest assured that every investigative avenue that we can think of approaching, we're gonna."
Cindy- We've reached out to another agency that gave us some insight- which is good- and they are working their side of it too, and made me feel a little bit better about some things. But is it too late because the longer it goes how far out are they hiding her.
Det- (worried about one division working a similar target, on a similar type of crime.. and the possibility of each not knowing what the other is doing, and sharing information, and people could be put in danger.. wants this other agency to contact them if they have pertinent information).
Det- ...Bring me those pants- I'd really appreciate it. Don't put them in a big brown paper bag. (laughs) What else in that car did you remove that day and maybe laundered.
Cindy- The only thing that I threw in the wash was her pants. No other clothes in there. Everything else i gave to the... There was one thing missing that I had in a bag and I made mention of that... Casey had a lanyard (this was in her work bag- there was no clothing bag) in her work bag that had Amy's resumes in there - cuz it had an envelop with Amy's resumes. Casey had a lanyard that had the Universal Studios ID- her original one from when she worked at Kodak,
there's a shamrock with white beads on it with a big one... it was not there the next day. It was there that night, but not there the next day. Casey was never left alone to go get that. Because Lee and I walked her into her bedroom, when we came home that night. Walked her right past everything. She didn't even know what we/I had taken out of the car. Cuz I had it over by the washer and dryer and
I have an ice chest we have setting off to the side. From the point when we called 911 she was never left alone by deputies. So she couldn't have taken it out. Lee didn't take it. I didn't take it. It was missing by the time people came back to take the car and the stuff that was in it. Because I left it in her bag. When I went back to the bag to write the stuff down on the sheet, it wasn't there. So somebody took it that Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning. It had to be (LE) but it wasn't listed in the items. Someone had to have taken it. If you guys have it, it should have been with the stuff. You would have taken it w/out my knowledge.
Det says they're going to follow up on that.
Cindy- I have a question.. This is something you may not know.. Jose (Baez) had asked for the video or cd footage at the airport to show Casey to see if Caylee was there or not. Nobody ever got back to him on that.
Det- He needs to contact Sgt. Allen
Cindy- He did. SO I mean he said Sgt Allen said "no we're not giving evidence to you".. Well, so "what's the deal with that?" "If there's a video.. which I would think with homeland security there'd be a video. With this day in age.."
Det- Yuri said there are tape-over issues
Cindy- Who uses video? I thought everything was ..
Cindy- We have friends from homeland security I think we'll call them.. I've had people email pictures they've thought were Caylee and I've told them right away that's not Caylee. I mean why waste your time?
(they start wrapping up, swearing Cindy in, telling her to call with more info if she gets any)
