2010.04.05 Tommy's Jail House Tapes Released

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Toc: I am sick of these punks yelling through the door, they better not let me catch them in the hallway.
Papa C: yeahh....you just gonna get yourself in more trouble.
Toc: I'll be in..I won't be able to talk to you guys for 30 days.
Papa C: yeah don't be getting yourself in (garble) trouble.
ToC: Get's f'in on my nerves man, I can't stand people talking ****, saying they don't know nothing about.
Papa C: eh, yeah, that's how they all, the whole world is talking that ,
ToC: I know.
Papa C: that's what sucks about everything, the world knows us,
ToC: it's crazy...seconds of silence, then ToC: well....the truth will come out and then everyone will see, eh, eh, everything they thought was wrong, I know know of it has to to with me, I don't know about anybody else....but, I know I didn't have anything to do with nothing.
Papa C: Oh, I know you didn't, we all know that,
ToC: And I hope my sister ....garbled, then the word either. ( I hope my sister don't believe that either, or don't know nothing either?)
Papa C: I don't think Misty knows...I just can't believe that...
ToC: she f'in acts like she did...I don't know, it's seems like if she knew something, something would be bothering her...how can you hold that inside?
Papa C: it ain't no Croslin..ain't no way, it ain't no Croslin cuz there ain't none of us that could do that. ( Do WHAT EXACTLY??)
ToC: nope
Papa C: Them Overstreets, they ain't nothing but...garbled ...
ToC; ha ha ha ha
Papa C: no I mean
ToC: I don't see Joe doing nothing like that but he is a little f'in out there, that Mother f'er's crazy.
Papa C: I don't know I don't have a clue I can't see why he would and he wouldn't, I don't know. I don't understand how anyone could hurt a little baby.
ToC: I am just wanting the truth to get out there so they will f'in get off my back, and get off my families back....and it will eventually, it always does. Maybe f'in years from now but it will come out.
Papa C: If I waddn't in trouble I'd go down there and put a pistol in Joe's mouth and make him tell me somethin
ToC: yeah
Papa C: I am sick and tired of it.
ToC: me too, but I ain't gonna let it bother me no more..can't
Papa C: well it bothers me everyday you and her being in here.
ToC: I know it does dad,
Papa C: they want to lock me up and lock mom up,
ToC: well, we got to quit giving them reasons to do that, stop getting in trouble
Papa C: oh I ain't giving them no reasons.
ToC: me neither, I get outta here I ain't getting in no more trouble.I ain't f'in with pills I ain't f'in with drugs.
Papa C: I wouldn't trying to get in trouble.

Then Tommy goes to to talk about how trashed he was when LE brought him into the jail....etc etc. Tommy said they knew right where to look for me, Papa C talks about a vehicle possibly being bugged that is what he heard.....a tracking thing...

Didn't hear him say he knows the truth and he doesn't have anything to do with it....now that would be a bombshell.
 
Thanks so much for this transcription, Elle - to decipher some of these tapes, I have to darned near lip-read as well as listen. When they are out of sync like this tape was, and garbled to boot...well, I couldn't make heads nor tails out of it!
 
Hank SR "I don't understand how anyone could hurt a little baby."

Tommy "I am just wanting the truth to get out there so they will f'in get off my back, and get off my family's back....and it will eventually, it always does. Maybe f'in years from now but it will come out."
 
Hank SR "I don't understand how anyone could hurt a little baby."

Tommy "I am just wanting the truth to get out there so they will f'in get off my back, and get off my family's back....and it will eventually, it always does. Maybe f'in years from now but it will come out."


Brings tears to my eyes, overwhelmed with sentimentality as they are.
 
I too noticed the "my" house comment by Lindsey. However, isn't this a home she moved into after her husband was jailed? I don't think he's even seen the place. I think for her, not having him there since the day she moved it would make her call it "my" house. He's obviously never seen it or been there.
Funny that I get a completely different feeling watching Lindsey and Tommy talk. I think they love each other. It was kind of sad to watch him hear his wife talk about the things his children are doing. Things he doesn't get to see and is missing as they grow. He laughs when he hears about his daughter coloring on the walls. And, he offers some fatherly advice of watching the children when they have the markers.
You can tell he's very lonely and wants her attention.
As for those eyes, yes they do twitch. But I think the strange look when he closes his eyes is caused by his eyes being so big, the eyelids don't completely cover his eyeballs when he tries to close them. It looks as if he has his eyes half closed.
But the rest of you can go on and try to diagnose something exotic that is wrong with him. Just call me when you've finally settled on what makes his eyes appear like that. LOL.
jmo


Lindsy says something to the effect, (you know how your eyes don't shut all the way when you close them?) I believe Tommy has a Thyroid problem. If left untreated, the eyes will continue to bulge, until there's no way his eyelids can ever shut. I don't think they have a clue what's going on with him. Here are just a few of the symptoms.

http://www.westbocaeye.com/eye_prob_thyroid.cfm

At first, thyroid problems may not produce many eye symptoms. Later, symptoms of thyroid eye disorders may include:

Bulging eyes. The eyes are pushed forward, and you appear to stare. Bulging may occur in one or both eyes and in different amounts.
A scratchy or gritty feeling in your eyes, especially when you wake up.
Eyelids that do not close completely or cover less of the eye than normal when you are awake.
 
Lindsy says something to the effect, (you know how your eyes don't shut all the way when you close them?) I believe Tommy has a Thyroid problem. If left untreated, the eyes will continue to bulge, until there's no way his eyelids can ever shut. I don't think they have a clue what's going on with him. Here are just a few of the symptoms.

http://www.westbocaeye.com/eye_prob_thyroid.cfm

At first, thyroid problems may not produce many eye symptoms. Later, symptoms of thyroid eye disorders may include:

Bulging eyes. The eyes are pushed forward, and you appear to stare. Bulging may occur in one or both eyes and in different amounts.
A scratchy or gritty feeling in your eyes, especially when you wake up.
Eyelids that do not close completely or cover less of the eye than normal when you are awake.

good thought Maryann! A very good friend of mine has the "bug eyes" (that is what she calls them) she has what is called graves disease. It is very possible. I was trying to find a connection between the drugs and twitching yesterday, but came up with nothing. Thanks!
 
good thought Maryann! A very good friend of mine has the "bug eyes" (that is what she calls them) she has what is called graves disease. It is very possible. I was trying to find a connection between the drugs and twitching yesterday, but came up with nothing. Thanks!


I have a friend with Graves, too. Her eyes are really bad, and she wears sunglasses all the time. (Like Hank) I understand that when she sleeps, her eyelids are not big enough to cover her eyes. I don't understand how people ignore this until it gets this bad. I think once meds are started, the bulging stops. It never goes away, but it doesn't get any worse.
 

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