2010.04.30 Defense responds to JS order stepping down

[magnolia]

Again, I've said this before I'm not a fan of JB but I have to respectively disagree. I think this is CM all the way.

I totally agree. I also think it was CM's idea to file the motion to recuse.
It's obvious, for some reason, Mason has a problem with JS.

 

[beach]

Snipped respect, NTS. ITA in the sense that Perry will not allow anything going on with JS to impede his ability with the defense. He is a pro...so I don't think that the defense need worry about any prejudice from the current Judge.

ITA. I want to clarify my earlier comment directed to rhornsby - I was not meaning to imply in any form or fashion that I thought it would affect ANY of Judge Perry's decision or fair treatment of both sides. (After today, I don't think anybody or anything has to power to challenge that.) I was asking more in the nature of Judge Perry IS the Chief Judge of the Ninth Circuit...IOW, I don't think he will look favorably upon a cocky attorney crossing the lines of the FL Rule of Professional Conduct that governs attorneys that are members of the FL Bar.

 

[Anais]

ITA. I want to clarify my earlier comment directed to rhornsby - I was not meaning to imply in any form or fashion that I thought it would affect ANY of Judge Perry's decision or fair treatment of both sides. (After today, I don't think anybody or anything has to power to challenge that.) I was asking more in the nature of Judge Perry IS the Chief Judge of the Ninth Circuit...IOW, I don't think he will look favorably upon a cocky attorney crossing the lines of the FL Rule of Professional Conduct that governs attorneys that are members of the FL Bar.

ITA Beach2yall. Thanks for clarifying for those who may have misunderstood.

 

[RainyGirl]

I bet they the laughing stock amongst their fellow defense attorneys. This was so pointless and immature. They did not even ask for anything in this. it was simply trying to get the last word.

Well done KC, you have managed to find a group of people more immature than you, well I can't say that, they didn't kill thier child

You can very well bet that they ARE. The bumblings of Baez and the childish, ridiculous nature of that last filing are being mocked all the way out here in the Seattle law community!!! :dance:

 

[The World According]

They just never learn, wow!! Does Mr. Baez want the bar to say take your pick Mr. Baez..which matter shall we address with you first, Todd putting 70K in your trust account, you taking letters back and forth to jail, or this little violation?

 

[MissJames]

Judge Strickland didn't admit to any wrong doing at all. As a matter of fact, there was no wrong doing, IMO. Just the defense trying to create the appearance of wrong doing.

I do agree with you, however, that Judge Perry probably doesn't care one way or the other. All the more reason to wonder why the defense would file this motion except for to get in the last word.

Childish behavior because their pride (if they have any left) is wounded.

I agree with one exception . I would swap out the word pride with EGO . : )

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Cm was only responding to the things that Judge Strickland put in his motion that were unnecessary. Judge Strickland had opportunity to just acknowledge the law and step down. He added what needed not be added. I think it is important that the record is set straight.

Why would Judge Perry care one way or the other? This is not his battle and certainly he can not allow it to have any bearing on the case. Judge Strickland admitted his wrong doing, he stepped down. End of story as far as he is concerned. For Judge Perry to allow this to effect his decision making is to say it is not over, Judge Strickland is still causing affect on the case. IMO

You may see it as "unnecessary", but it wasn't. Judge Strickland had every right and reason to respond, AND respond exactly as he did. Not everyone suffers fools lightly and the Defense is now crying in their own soup because they embarrassed themselves.

I think it's hilarious!

The Defense needs to grow a pair, pull their socks up and realize they aren't going to push any Honorable around and dictate all moves and behaviors.

And your second bold is untrue.

At no time has Judge Strickland ever admitted to any wrongdoing, simply because there was none. Unlike the Defense members who are a complete embarrassment to their profession, Judge Strickland lives up to his name and really is Honorable.

 

[The World According]

I'm not certain where you are getting your information from but Jdge Strickland did no such thing as admitting to any wrong doing. And furthermore you may want to read the bar assoc. rules on exactly what JB et al did today in filing their silly little response. BTW it is considered inappropriate conduct.

Lastly it is not Judge S. who is causing effect on the case here. It is the defense with all of their silly melodramatics and constant whining. When they are the very first out of the court room to run straight to the media and go national with interviews! Indeed the irony is rich!

Oh my have you ever got that one hundred percent correct!!!! If someone thinks that the judge admitted wrongdoing, they are wrong! If one reads the judge's words, it is quite the contrary. He stepped down to avoid the defense making FUTURE claims of bias. If someone was telling you the judge admitted wrongdoing they have a very poor understanding of what the judge said. The good news is the document is public record, and easy to find to review if one is confused. All the defense did today is prove the judge's assessment was spot on! I couldn't agree with you, and Judge Strickland more. Going out and opining to the media, was a big mistake, but out of all the ridiculous things they have done, this response about the judge was by far the worst. IMO they made complete and utter fools of themselves, and they will be lucky if that is all the state bar has to say about it!! They have the perfect client, they have something in common with her, they live their lives ten minutes at a time, never thinking of what their actions will mean later. It was ill advised, and that is being overly generous as Mr. Nejame would say. The thing that seems lost on Baez is that Mason is retiring and the other lawyers have little or nothing to lose.They do not have to live and work where he does, they will return to their states and carry on. He is the one who has to face the same judges and work in the same courthouse where his reputation will precede him, unless and until he moves. Rule number one ...know your audience.
Sad, tired and pitiful. It is clear they are not thinking of their client's best interest, they are being led by ego, and ego alone. imo


The truly funny thing is Mr. Mason himself opined that the talking to the media in this case was a huge, huge mistake.
Here is an extensive interview by Tony Pipitone with Cheney Mason and another attorney about defense strategies before Caylee's body was found (article from November 2008). Makes interesting reading now.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18025942/detail.html

Also see Mason talking about the prior claims that Caylee was alive giving Casey, GA, CA, and Baez "establishes they have no credibility whatsoever."!

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18268796/detail.html

Defense attorney Cheney Mason said claims made by Casey Anthony and Baez that Caylee was alive will now work against them at trial.

"Then all the talking, all the press interviews and the parents going on this show and that show and the lawyer going on different shows establishes they have no credibility whatsoever," Mason said.

Mr. Mason, that was a good opinion then and would serve you well now.
You just can't make this stuff up!

 

[JSR]

Cm was only responding to the things that Judge Strickland put in his motion that were unnecessary. Judge Strickland had opportunity to just acknowledge the law and step down. He added what needed not be added. I think it is important that the record is set straight.

Why would Judge Perry care one way or the other? This is not his battle and certainly he can not allow it to have any bearing on the case. Judge Strickland admitted his wrong doing, he stepped down. End of story as far as he is concerned. For Judge Perry to allow this to effect his decision making is to say it is not over, Judge Strickland is still causing affect on the case. IMO

JS did NOT admit to any wrong doing in his order. Perhaps you should re-read that gem of an order.

I am personally outraged that the defense continually creates drama where there should be none but they continue to manufacture it. Either way you look at this case it's a serious matter and they are making a mockery out of judicial system. On one hand an innocent 2 year old child was murdered and on the other a woman's life is at stake. The defense needs to handle themselves in accordance with such a serious matter, and they haven't. It's been all about egos and appearances. I'm downright sick of it.

I find it strange that you would approve of such an unabashedly unprofessional filing. You might think it's important to "set the record straight" but there's no reason to set the record straight. It's a dead subject. The defense has a habit of wanting to get the last word in no matter what and their move was unprofessional and downright outrageous. JS is a judge and CM and company are not. It's not an attys job to "school" a judge or call a judge a liar in a pleading.

Judge Perry will be fair regarding this proceeding but don't think for one minute he won't look at this "statement" for exactly what it is. And don't think he won't be on their case to make sure they don't put one single little itty bitty toe out of line.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Judge Strickland didn't admit to any wrong doing at all. As a matter of fact, there was no wrong doing, IMO. Just the defense trying to create the appearance of wrong doing.

I do agree with you, however, that Judge Perry probably doesn't care one way or the other. All the more reason to wonder why the defense would file this motion except for to get in the last word.

Childish behavior because their pride (if they have any left) is wounded.

Reading this worthless Motion, you can almost hear the sniffling and hiccuping as they stammer with, "but, but, but, but, he said..... (hiccup).....I didn't like....but.....it's just no fair, MOM!"

I expect a follow-up Motion next by the Defense reading, "Oh yeah and we forgot to add, Mooooommmmm, he's looking at meeeeeeeee!"

Seriously, you've got to laugh at their stupidity and tantrums!

 

[mitzi]

Again, I've said this before I'm not a fan of JB but I have to respectively disagree. I think this is CM all the way.

Bold mine.

ITA!...Going out in a "blaze of glory" and all that carp! Too bad Cheney is starting to look more and more like an immature bully! Wonder if he was aware that anyone who sits within 2 feet of Ms. Anthony gets slammed. Say buh-bye to that sterling reputation Mr. C! :furious:

Hello 911, Can you send the Waaaaaaahmbulance!

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Bold mine.

ITA!...Going out in a "blaze of glory" and all that carp! Too bad Cheney is starting to look more and more like an immature bully! Wonder if he was aware that anyone who sits within 2 feet of Ms. Anthony gets slammed. Say buh-bye to that sterling reputation Mr. C! :furious:

Hello 911, Can you send the Waaaaaaahmbulance!

I think I'm going to package up a box of Kleenex tomorrow and mail it to Mason's office with a note attached, "Make this last for all the rest of your whiny, frivolous Motions, you're not worth the postage to send you more."

 

[Horace Finklestein]

This is utterly disgusting.

 

[mitzi]

I totally agree. I also think it was CM's idea to file the motion to recuse.
It's obvious, for some reason, Mason has a problem with JS.

I don't think it was that Cheney has a problem with JS, per se...more like Cheney wants to assert the fact that it is HE, who is in charge of the courtroom, not any measly judge. Rude awakening arriving on track 9! :dance:

 

[darnudes]

This is unbelievable the defense has filed a motion (actually a statement) in response to JS GRANTING THEIR MOTION.

http://wdbo.com/common/pdf/orlando/casey_4_30_motion.pdf

I read the motion when you first posted it....and fumed.

I read the motion again when I calmed down.....and fumed.

I have just read it for the third time and can't get past page 3....yep still fuming

For the love of God, is every Capital Murder Case like this?

 

[Dignity4Victims]

I read the motion when you first posted it....and fumed.

I read the motion again when I calmed down.....and fumed.

I have just read it for the third time and can't get past page 3....yep still fuming

For the love of God, is every Capital Murder Case like this?

Not to this ridiculous extreme, no. I've never seen a case like this, ever, nor have I ever seen a Defense team behave so positively unprofessional, irrational and downright immature.

 

[The World According]

Their silly document doesn't matter. What Judge Strickland said to them in the document, is the very, very least of their worries!!!!

When are they going to get serious? I am thrilled that the judge scheduled all of their motions to be heard very, very soon. He seemed to be hinting to them the death penalty ones, however imaginative, are dead in the water.

Also I thought it was particularly funny that not only did J. Jordan stand them up when they wanted him to testify, now Kronk's ex family members have had a change of heart and have been avoiding being deposed for three months.Sitting in one's kitchen with Mort over coffee and donuts is a far cry from being sworn in and having to testify under oath to the State's Assistant Attorney! Seems their bag of tricks is getting pretty empty. It is back to the drawing board for Casey's boys.

I just remembered this was the first time George saw his daughter since she accused him of molestation. Are you still proud, sir?
I guess the defense is trying hard to get the news cycle on their response to the judge rather than have the reporters in George's face asking him are the allegations that he molested Casey bod faced lies. They must pace the floor thinking just shoot me every time something gets worse for them. They get desperate and do desperate, ignorant things, imo. Good grief!

 

[LambChop]

Glad these defense attorneys are not strategists in the military. We'd all be dead.

 

[Anais]

Oh my have you ever got that one hundred percent correct!!!! If Baez thought that the judge admitted wrongdoing, he is wrong, again...quite the contrary. He stepped down to avoid the defense making FUTURE claims of bias. If someone was telling you the judge admitted wrongdoing they have a very poor understanding of what the judge said. The good news is the document is public record, and easy to find to review if one is confused. All the defense did today is prove the judge's assessment was spot on! I couldn't agree with you, and Judge Strickland more. Going out and opining to the media, was a big mistake. It was ill advised, and that is being overly generous as Mr. Nejame would say. The thing that seems lost on Baez is that Mason is retiring and the other lawyers have little or nothing to lose.They do not have to live and work where he does, they will return to their states and carry on. He is the one who has to face the same judges and work in the same courthouse where his reputation will precede him, unless and until he moves. Rule number one ...know your audience.
Sad, tired and pitiful. It is clear they are not thinking of their client's best interest, they are being led by ego, and ego alone. imo


The truly funny thing is Mr. Mason himself opined that the talking to the media in this case was a huge, huge mistake.
Here is an extensive interview by Tony Pipitone with Cheney Mason and another attorney about defense strategies before Caylee's body was found (article from November 2008). Makes interesting reading now.
Mr. Mason, that was a good opinion then and would serve you well now.
You just can't make this stuff up!

* Respectfully Snipped For Space

TWA you rock!

Thank you, thank you a million times over for all of the CM links showing exactly what a tremendous hypocrite he truly is.

 

[ynotdivein]

This motion is unbelievable and "quite frankly" ridiculous! Mason has some unmitigated GALL submitting this. I hope Judge Perry kicks his A$$ for this.:furious::furious::furious:

ETA: Maybe this is why Mason was so silent at this morning's hearing...worried that Judge Perry might have received his copy already?

Well, you can still tell JB must be involved somehow because there's a "there/their" error on page 8. Does NO ONE PROOFREAD THESE THINGS? :banghead:

mitzi, you summed it up with the bit I bolded above. Unmitigated gall! IMO, this utterly unnecessary frivolous "get the last digs in" response, plus JB's snarky little lesson in how to say AL's name at the end of today's hearing, are two very clear manifestations of JB's adolescent mentality. And this makes me quite comfortable that KC chose exactly the right lawyer in Baez. One who truly "represents" her. Malignant arrogance thinly veils an ego so fragile that it cannot bear the slightest affront without flashing; relentless insistence on "facts" that have been proven patently false; the inability to state the truth and then HUSH YOUR MOUTH; and the mistaken assumption that having the last word in a public venue means you have "won"--in fact a total lack of comprehension that one can seemingly "win" a skirmish even as one has already lost the war.

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