2010.05.11 - Casey Anthony Death Penalty Motions Hearing

[marspiter]

Me too I of course apologized for the initial OT where I asked if such a thread existed. I should have known it would spiral WAY out THERE though.


It would be nice for everyone to know what to expect during these pre trial hearings and the upcoming trial. It isnt all Law and Order/CSI as some would like to believe. Justice is not only about the victim when it comes to the legal terminology/processes/systems, as much as most people would like it to be

However it should be noted that the Florida SA's office is an advocate for the victim in criminal proceedings and Florida does have many measures in place to support victims of crime and give them a voice in the court system.

 

[whiteangora]

I was referencing your summarization wherein you stated:

"The first sentence says it all.

Seeking justice for an innocent two year old murder victim. That's about as pure as it gets."

I am very thankful for the information and links you posted of course. I was merely pointing out that it is my opinion that the SAs job is to seek justice. Sadly, the notion of justice encompasses MUCH more than the the victim, in this case Caylee

I will assume that there is no such thread here. I think it would be helpful for others to understand the roles of key players and certain procedures within the judicial system. This may make the coming trial a little less emotionally charged I think. JMO of course...lol..maybe one day I will start a thread in here somewhere :innocent:

bbm

I prefer the KISS way.
SA and co = Prosecution
JB and co = Defense

 

[beach]

I know I referred to television as my sources, but I also explained that I was learning. To twist my words and make it seem like I was using television as the source of a true belief system, and not just a way of conveying my lack of education, is insulting to say the least.

:twocents:

You've got a lot of company sitting next to you, Chiquita. :hug:

Most of us happen to know how intelligent you are because we have read your posts for a long time.

 

[denjet]

The aggravating factors will be listed in broad terms with little or no detail of the State's intended theories. AFAIK, these are the 4 aggravating factors:

• The capital felony involved aggravated child abuse
• It was premeditated
• The victim was under the age of 12
• The defendant was the victim's parent (snipped from article)

http://www.wesh.com/news/23488034/detail.html

I hope you're right about broad terms ... after listening to Jose at the presser after court, he's making it sound like they are going to get to hear the whole case the state has against their client !! I'm pretty sure Jose is not getting what he thinks he's getting ....

Two other factors that the state could list are:

The capital felony was especially heinous, atrocious, or cruel

The capital felony was committed for pecuniary gain

 

[nanny1]

ER hasn't really interviewed or done much study on prosecutorial

She's read newspapers....

So haven't all of us .. I'm insulted that none of us were called as expert witness'..:banghead:

 

[beach]

Gotta just say Bond is gonna have a stroke when he sees this thread is up to 53 pgs.

tick-a-lock

 

[snowshuze]

Me too I of course apologized for the initial OT where I asked if such a thread existed. I should have known it would spiral WAY out THERE though.


It would be nice for everyone to know what to expect during these pre trial hearings and the upcoming trial. It isnt all Law and Order/CSI as some would like to believe. Justice is not only about the victim when it comes to the legal terminology/processes/systems, as much as most people would like it to be

As the saying goes <for most of us> "This ain't our first rodeo".
But thank you for your input.

 

[LeLe1953]

Anyone realize KC only cries when AL is in the room? Perhaps AL coaches her to do so?

That's the million dollar question. Is it:
A: Because AL & JB have a big ole peeled onion in their brief case
OR
B: AL has sex toys in her brief case that KC gets a peek at now & again & cries cause she can't have em OR
C: KC's account is bone dry & there is no money for batteries for the sex toys.

My vote is B

 

[ZsaZsa]

And yet nobody call child services. You would think if Cindy wanted custody she would realize she needed some kind of documented proof. I called CPS on one of my relatives, because she left her two year old with a 10 year old. I called them and they told me to go get the kid. When my relative called me, asking me where the baby was, I told her CPS said don't give her back. I gave the baby to her father, and helped him win custody. My relative didn't talk to me for a couple of years but she eventually thanked me because she realized she wasn't mature enough to raise a child yet.

I think Cindy was/is very afraid of Casey. Now we see why...

 

[sayd]

Aargh...I want to scream. I was a party girl when I was in my early 20's. Maybe I wasn't the perfect mom, but I sure loved my babies. Oh yeah, I was white and middle class. I think there were 100 million of us like that...AND WE DIDN'T KILL OUR BABIES!

Now happily in my 50's with wonderful kids who are in their 30's..

What are you thinking Andrea Lyon??? What about Caylee? Jose B, quit thinking with your other head...is that your wallet or the other part?:banghead:

Why do you defend a baby killer?

Sorry, I just don't get it. I will shut up now and go back to lurking.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Me too I of course apologized for the initial OT where I asked if such a thread existed. I should have known it would spiral WAY out THERE though.


It would be nice for everyone to know what to expect during these pre trial hearings and the upcoming trial. It isnt all Law and Order/CSI as some would like to believe. Justice is not only about the victim when it comes to the legal terminology/processes/systems, as much as most people would like it to be

Most everyone on this board offers something knowledgeable, so please stop insulting the audience.

It isn't appreciated nor is it necessary to continually put others down.

Many of us have vast legal and criminal education and experience, others have medical backgrounds, forensics and other forms of Scientific expertise, and for those who do not, they offer the most valued and treasured gift of pure logic coming from caring hearts.

This really isn't our first rodeo.

 

[Macushla]

Me too I of course apologized for the initial OT where I asked if such a thread existed. I should have known it would spiral WAY out THERE though.


It would be nice for everyone to know what to expect during these pre trial hearings and the upcoming trial. It isnt all Law and Order/CSI as some would like to believe. Justice is not only about the victim when it comes to the legal terminology/processes/systems, as much as most people would like it to be

While for someone who is not 'native' to the US or been here awhile, I am sure there are going to be questions about hearings, experts, etc.

On this proposed thread, who exactly would be 'teaching' everyone what to expect during these pre trial hearings and the upcoming trial?

I have found in my time here on WS that a majority of the people here have a pretty da*n good idea about how justice works andknow what to expect from pre trial hearings and trials. When someone does have questions, we have our very own wonderful legal experts who are willing to answer our questions free of charge (at least I haven't gotten a bill yet!)

This system has worked pretty good for me so far, and from looking at all the trials this forum has discussed, seems to have worked well for a long, long time. My daddy used to say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

 

[Sparky]

I know I referred to television as my sources, but I also explained that I was learning. To twist my words and make it seem like I was using television as the source of a true belief system, and not just a way of conveying my lack of education, is insulting to say the least.

:twocents:

I may not post much Chiquita, but I always love to read your posts. You are always so sweet

 

[lauriej]

..i have no idea who the woman were that were seated behind the defense table today are-------but doesn't AL often bring students to court with her?

..the one who sat WITH kc, while the rest were at sidebar---and kc gave a big hug to at the end of the hearing--------could she be j.barrett, the mitigation specialist ( baez indicated they have formed a close bond at the last hearing) present b/c today AL would be speaking of mitigating factors? do we know what j.barrett looks like?

 

[whiteangora]

Most everyone on this board offers something knowledgeable, so please stop insulting the audience.

It isn't appreciated nor is it necessary to continually put others down.

Many of us have vast legal and criminal education and experience, others have medical backgrounds, forensics and other forms of Scientific expertise, and for those who do not, they offer the most valued and treasured gift of pure logic coming from caring hearts.

This really isn't our first rodeo.

Thank you!
I have no legal degrees or any other degrees for that matter but I am not having any difficulty following this case or understanding "What is going on". I feel as though I am being talked down to and I resent it.

 

[LeLe1953]

You missed the sex toys and wild drunken possibly bisexual dance.

OMG, You just brought a graphic into my mind that I didn't need to see.
Can u imagine, in closing argument, AL pushes a covered table up to the jury. She throws back her hair, pushes out her butt & pulls the cover off the table to reveal a variety of sex toys, most of them HUGE, all with batteries, the rabitts dancing their way across the table with a buzz buzz buzz. AL, in loud, distressed voice, tosses her hair once again, grabs the stipper pole next to the table & yells to the jury " You CAN NOT find my pet, ur, client guilty on the basis on giant, buzzing, vibrating sex toys and a stripper pole." She then grabs the biggest, badest, loudest sex toy in both hands, falls to her knees & shouts " Where's the justice! In the name of all pole stripping, sex toy lovin females everywhere, you must not find her guilty. If the toy don't fit, you must acquit!!"

 

[ZsaZsa]

So haven't all of us .. I'm insulted that none of us were called as expert witness'..:banghead:

I wonder how much the taxpayers were billed for that waste of time?
The good thing is I am buoyed by the thought that this is the standard of 'expert witness' that impresses AL ... with people like Jeff Ashton and Linda DB prosecuting this should be fun!

 

[ecs5298]

While for someone who is not 'native' to the US or been here awhile, I am sure there are going to be questions about hearings, experts, etc.

On this proposed thread, who exactly would be 'teaching' everyone what to expect during these pre trial hearings and the upcoming trial?

I have found in my time here on WS that a majority of the people here have a pretty da*n good idea about how justice works andknow what to expect from pre trial hearings and trials. When someone does have questions, we have our very own wonderful legal experts who are willing to answer our questions free of charge (at least I haven't gotten a bill yet!)

This system has worked pretty good for me so far, and from looking at all the trials this forum has discussed, seems to have worked well for a long, long time. My daddy used to say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

And we have a winner for the Post of the Day!

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Sorry for the OT....a simple "Thanks" was not enough for Mac's excellent post!

 

[LambChop]

Thank you!
I have no legal degrees or any other degrees for that matter but I am not having any difficulty following this case or understanding "What is going on". I feel as though I am being talked down to and I resent it.

Plus we have a Legal Question Thread here. If we have a question.....and we all do....we just go to the Legal Question Thread and ask....magically we get our answer in a easy to understand form. Thank you AZlawyer for your help. jmo

 

[Soju]

Amen. I have 2 Bachelor's Degrees, a Law Degree, and a Master's Degree. I come here to learn about specific cases as a matter of personal interest, and share opinions, but I certainly don't come here to be taught. Furthermore, because I haven't been nor seek to be "vetted" by Tricia, I don't offer any opinions or statements as an expert or imply that I know any more than anyone else on WS. I respect every single poster's opinion, and don't think anyone on here needs to be lectured or talked down to.