2010.06.28 - Kyron's Dad files for divorce and restraining order

[nurseratchett]

Tough to argue that a delay in addressing the custody issue would be detrimental to the interests of the children when you are the one who has sole custody of those children in the meantime.

Well, it's detrimental to Kyron, IMO.

 

[Calliope]

She said her attorney costs $350K.

Her attorney says that $350K is grossly overstated.

The $350K figure came from Terri's own mouth. He says that it's grossly overstated. So it all traces back to TERRI grossly overstating it. She lied.

He's talking about Kaine's claim she paid Houze $350,000. At least from these texts, Terri never said how much she paid him.

 

[pufnstuf]

Ok, wait a minute. I find that whole "it's in the news so we can talk about it" thing bizarre.

Like first of all, Terri was sending this man pictures of her hoo hah and who knows what else, and all of a sudden this guy is worried about only talking about things that were in the news already? I mean, doesn't that just seem so weird to even make that comment?

This woman is showing you parts of her body, engaged in sexual acts and is presumably making overt sexual comments as well and Cook is worried about talking only about things that have been stated in the news?

And why does his comment remind me of what we try and follow here? That unless it has been talked about in the press/news, it should be off limits? I feel weird saying that, but that was my initial reaction...I thought why does that remind me of WS?

Great post. Especially considering that this guy was directly involved in the fund-raising through the first Bring Kyron Home website. And, in the press at least, he was "Kaine's friend."

I wonder if this exchange took place on their regular cellphones, and the sexting happened on the batphones.

 

[Angel4u2Whisper2]

She might be worried about discreet right? Like she might have cut and pasted little stars over her "sensitive areas" and bleeped out the " alleged unusal sounds or suggestions of such said sounds" during her sexting events. I mean she could of maybe possiably :censored:them
..Nawwww.

 

[desquire]

So much more in divorces, beyond custody, affects the children. Assets and property issues must be settled, and those issues can vastly affect children and their future.

The period before the divorce is emotional limbo for the person seeking the divorce. Can you imagine how it feels to have your divorce postponed... your divorce from the person who allegedly tried to have you murdered and who it appears is responsible for the disappearance of your child?

I don't blame Kaine for wanting the divorce ASAP, and for wanting to know how Terri paid for her defense attorney.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. I'll grant you your statement is true in many cases. Here, though, it just doesn't fly for the following reasons:
(1) KH has sole custody of the baby and TH is restrained from any contact;
(2) We aren't talking about postponing the divorce, TH isn't contesting the divorce and the divorce can be granted immediately, we're only talking about delaying the division of custodial rights and marital assets;
(3) TH is unemployed, has no independent assets amd is likely unemployable until the criminal case is resolved - KH isn't getting any money out of this divorce, he'll only be paying it out to TH;
(4) TH's motion for abatement stipulated away all of the other valid financial reasons KH may have had to oppose it (e.g., she waived any claim to the earnings on the marital assets post separation); and
(5) the baby is not old enough to understand and be anxious over a delay in the resolution of her parents' financial situation.

No, KH has no reason to fight the motion for abatement other than as a vehicle to sling mud (court wise) at TH via court motions that are immediately released in the press.

 

[krowdkat]

It's more than likely Houze told Terri that IF she was charged with disappearing/harming Kyron and MFH against Kaine, and it preceeded to trial his fees for such a case could be upwards of 350K to defend her.

Sounds like to me she feels like the above will happen and because of this expects to pay 350K. Houze makes the grossly overstated comment because TH has been charged with ZERO crimes as of yet. Also sounds like TH expects to be charged. Wonder why that is?!?

Just my uneducated guess on the situation!

 

[BeanE]

Tough to argue that a delay in addressing the custody issue would be detrimental to the interests of the children when you are the one who has sole custody of those children in the meantime.

Oh I hadn't considered that. Thank you, desquire.

 

[Michael25]

The seemingly immature TH continues to astound me, as does the aloof KH. Meanwhile, Kyron is out there somewhere, innocent to all of this. What he hopefully somewhat obliviously endured in that home all those years is unimaginable.

 

[Emma Peel]

oh lordie, there goes my dignity. *dabs tears*

(am stuck on snort - way back at hoo hah.)

gran's gonna come in here and kick me buttocks. :couch:

 

[pufnstuf]

He's talking about Kaine's claim she paid Houze $350,000. At least from these texts, Terri never said how much she paid him.

You say tomayto, I say tomahto.

Terri didn't say, "$350K, but pro bono for me."
Terri didn't say, "$350K, but I got him for $20K."

Terri said that he costs $350K. It was from this text that Kaine got the information. Kaine was not illogical in his demand that she reveal HOW MUCH she paid to retain Houze and HOW she came about that money. It is his right to know if his marital assets are being used to pay for the defense of the person that LE seems to suspect is responsible for the disappearance of his son.

For Bunch (divorce lawyer) to say that the $350K is "grossly overstated" is a slap at his own client, who was the source of the info that Houze costs $350K.

 

[desquire]

I hate to be taking on the role of Terri defender here but doesn't anyone else find it significant that there were redacted text messages between the ones qouted in the article? Either MC was texting with someone else as he was texting with TH or we are getting a very stilted picture of the actual conversation. For example, Terri's statement, "Yep. Guess how much he costs?" follows a redacted text sent by MC. For all we know, she was responding to a MC statement along the lines of "Wow, He's good, bet he doesn't come cheap." There's also a redacted text received by MC just before the "350K"

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kaine_hormans_lawyer_files_tex.html

 

[Billylee]

I don't believe MCook was a plant. I think M. Cook found himself swimming in the wrong direction and is now doing the backstroke with LE telling what he knows. MOO

Do we know he has told LE something? Anything? Does anyone know if MC was called before the GJ? I really thought he would/should be due to the fact that he took pictures of the RO, which was supposed to remain secret, and from the reorts apparently showed it to at least one other person. I wonder who he showed it to? By the reports, we have been lead to believe that the reason it was shown to MC was to provide KH's new secret address. Why? Was there perhaps talk of kidnapping the baby back?

Which also brings me to another question. Didn't TH commit a crime when she revealed the document to MC?

I personally think MC has more to do with this case then we're seeing. I wonder where he was the morning of June 4?

Because he took pictures of the RO, which I think(?) is illegal AND shared them with someone, is it okay to sleuth MC here yet, Grandmaj?

 

[daisy7]

I hate to be taking on the role of Terri defender here but doesn't anyone else find it significant that there were redacted text messages between the ones qouted in the article? Either MC was texting with someone else as he was texting with TH or we are getting a very stilted picture of the actual conversation. For example, Terri's statement, "Yep. Guess how much he costs?" follows a redacted text sent by MC. For all we know, she was responding to a MC statement along the lines of "Wow, He's good, bet he doesn't come cheap." There's also a redacted text received by MC just before the "350K"

I do. Does anyone know for what reason these would be redacted? I only know FL law and we are very specific about what will be redacted under Sunshine.

 

[gliving]

desquire, I was just going to post that we can't read this in context since parts are redacted.

MC asks how much, Terri replies something that is blacked out, and then she replies 350K.

Who knows in what context the 350K is meant? I really expected more from this.

 

[Emma Peel]

O/T Tackle that task and think about the coffee later...
Today, I washed all my baseboards with Lysol..

oh my. TMI.
:floorlaugh:

 

[cindysue]

Do we know how these two meet and how do they have this kind of intimate relationship after such a short time? Seems fishy at best

 

[SleuthyMama]

How do we know that the redacted parts aren't sexually explicit? Because they seemed to have been talking about something else entirely when Cook then says "Hey, on a side note, the news channels all just announced you have Houze?"

My guess is some of those redacted texts are hoo hah related. (That's for you, Emma lol)

 

[desquire]

I do. Does anyone know for what reason these would be redacted? I only know FL law and we are very specific about what will be redacted under Sunshine.

This is just an exhibit to a filing in a civil suit, so the other texts could have been redacted by KH's lawyer for any reason at all. Of course, if an unredacted version later comes out in discovery and it's shown that KH's lawyer redacted the document to alter the reader's perception of the conversation, she'd get whacked pretty hard by the court. The most likely explanation is that KH got this in redacted form from the police. Ordinarily you'd expect them to redact conversations with others but we have no way of knowing and there really aren't any rules that they would be bound by.

 

[pufnstuf]

Sorry, I'm not buying it. I'll grant you your statement is true in many cases. Here, though, it just doesn't fly for the following reasons:
(1) KH has sole custody of the baby and TH is restrained from any contact;
(2) We aren't talking about postponing the divorce, TH isn't contesting the divorce and the divorce can be granted immediately, we're only talking about delaying the division of custodial rights and marital assets;
(3) TH is unemployed, has no independent assets amd is likely unemployable until the criminal case is resolved - KH isn't getting any money out of this divorce, he'll only be paying it out to TH;
(4) TH's motion for abatement stipulated away all of the other valid financial reasons KH may have had to oppose it (e.g., she waived any claim to the earnings on the marital assets post separation); and
(5) the baby is not old enough to understand and be anxious over a delay in the resolution of her parents' financial situation.

No, KH has no reason to fight the motion for abatement other than as a vehicle to sling mud at TH via court motions that are immediately released in the press.

1) The baby's custody has only temporarily been settled. The Custody and Restraining Order were both TEMPORARY. And, considering THIS, I really don't blame Kaine for wanting this handled as soon as possible.

2) No, Terri's divorce attorney filed to delay the divorce proceedings in sum, not just the custody and asset portions of the divorce. LINK

3) So? In my opinion, this is but another reason that he should want this concluded quickly.

4) I'm sure that this will be a matter of contention in the divorce proceedings. They've only been separated two months. What about everything prior to then? What about the real estate? So much more to be settled than just post-separation assets. There's also debt, which we've heard very little about.

5) The baby may not be old enough to "understand and be anxious" about finances, but any financial decisions will have a huge impact on her. Finances determine everything from what she eats to where she lives and where she will spend her days while Kaine is at work.

 

[Jasmine_xoxo]

How do we know that the redacted parts aren't sexually explicit? Because they seemed to have been talking about something else entirely when Cook then says "Hey, on a side note, the news channels all just announced you have Houze?"

My guess is some of those redacted texts are hoo hah related. (That's for you, Emma lol)

Well if this is the case we can't accuse them of wasting time...they're doing double duty by mixing business with pleasure.