2010.07.03 Sheriff confirms Kyron last seen *inside* school

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An interesting question to consider is WHY has Kyron's classmate T's account of that morning been swept under the rug ? Because it is very different from what LE says when they state that TH was the last one to see Kyron. T said that he saw TH leaving by herself.

All JMO
 
cluciano63 said:
I keep going back to LE saying Terri was last to see him...as if they KNOW that. How could they know that?
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Because they haven't found any person or video or anything definite that confirms seeing him after she did. Last 'known' person. Known doesn't rule out another person/video/etc, just says that's what they know at this time.
 
PS: Quit using minors' names, folks, before they shut down this thread...just sayin'...
 
liz b. said:
An interesting question to consider is WHY has Kyron's classmate T's account of that morning been swept under the rug ? Because it is very different from what LE says when they state that TH was the last one to see Kyron. T said that he saw TH leaving by herself.

All JMO
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:yes:
It's hard to "forget" about young T's description. Very hard. It's interesting the press isn't asking about this directly at pressers. ;) ground rules *cough*

T, thanks to his grandmother (Terri's next door neighbor), may have been ruled out as credible simply because his grandmother saw it fit to circumvent LE's specific instructions to NOT speak to media with regard to his testimony about his best friend and next-door neighbor's mother.

Terri's attorney has probably already talked to young T and his grandmother, since they like to talk so much. ;)

I dunno. :shakehead: Big judgment issues there. Hink-a-dinky land.

ALTERNATIVELY ...

Young T's testimony about "going to see the electricity" might be so important to their actual case/theory, that they've buried it for the time being by pretending its irrelevant...

Again. :shakehead: Horman family-association first circle. Hink-a-dinky dink.

If this post sounds all speculative and suspicious, it's because ... it is. JMHO
 
The classmate's testimony is exculpatory for Terri, and leaves the door open to anybody and everybody being a perp. There's no way LE is going to acknowledge it unless/until they've charged someone, and that someone is other than Terri.

Should Terri be charged, LE won't acknowledge it, but we'll probably see this child on the defense witness list.

The only thing that can dispute the child's testimony is another witness who saw Kyron after he did, and they don't have that.

I'd be willing to bet that the prosecutor told them not to acknowledge the child in case he/she has to take Terri to trial. Otherwise, the prosecutor stands too great a risk of losing his/her case, and may not even be able/willing to charge Terri.

This is very much worthy of a thread of its own. That one tiny little short interview by that one little child has presented LE and the DA significant problems.
 
Or Gates may have spoken to the child and quickly realized that the child was incorrect. And the defense may learn that too, when/if they have a need to check. I used an entire shaker of salt when he claimed that he not only had that crucial conversation with Kyron, but could also implicate a teacher in possible wrong-doing and saw Terri leave. What a busy boy.

I am concerned about what LE's assertion yesterday that Kyron is alive will do to a murder case that hinges on Terri having killed him on 6/4, if it comes to that.
 
cluciano63 said:
I am concerned about what LE's assertion yesterday that Kyron is alive will do to a murder case that hinges on Terri having killed him on 6/4, if it comes to that.
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Do you mean, will Terri's attorney use that to her advantage in court?
 
BeanE said:
The classmate's testimony is exculpatory for Terri, and leaves the door open to anybody and everybody being a perp. There's no way LE is going to acknowledge it unless/until they've charged someone, and that someone is other than Terri.

Should Terri be charged, LE won't acknowledge it, but we'll probably see this child on the defense witness list.

The only thing that can dispute the child's testimony is another witness who saw Kyron after he did, and they don't have that.

I'd be willing to bet that the prosecutor told them not to acknowledge the child in case he/she has to take Terri to trial. Otherwise, the prosecutor stands too great a risk of losing his/her case, and may not even be able/willing to charge Terri.

This is very much worthy of a thread of its own. That one tiny little short interview by that one little child has presented LE and the DA significant problems.
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BBM

Can we also have threads started for those who believe that:

a) TH is just that diabolical and was able to mastermind the perfect crime;
b) TH is not involved and might be devastated that a child she has been with since he was an infant is missing, a child that she was probably responsible for 24/7 for at least 24 days out of 28 days of the month and that her soon to be ex-husband has taken away her baby daughter; and
c) TH is being crucified by online rumours, none of which have been verified by Law Enforcement.

Just asking...
 
Bern said:
I have a question to all the mothers here posting and reading.

I don't have children, so I have never gone to a school with my 7 yr old and left him in a school hallway on such a special day. We haven't heard directly from Terri about her account of the day, so here is my question. If you walk your child down the hallway, after touring all the other kids exhibits, after helping your stepchild set up his and take a nice picture, do you hug them goodbye and say " have a great day" or give him maybe a kiss goodbye. I don't know if this goodbye that day included any of these things, but I haven't heard that. Those who know my posts, have heard me say this before, "it is not what you hear in a case, but what you don't hear sometimes". So I am just curious for those of you that do have small children- step moms included.
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Well, you do want to hug and kiss them but at a certain age they get very embarassed to do that in a school situation, where friends might see. Another thing that I found curious was if he was going to be in the talent show, wouldn't he have been dressed up a little more like when he was wearing the white button down shirt at the other assembly that he was in. We always do that here and maybe this show was more informal but it's just another thing I found odd. Or maybe he wasn't even in it.
 
cluciano63 said:
Yes, if they show tapes of LE and Desiree stating he is alive as of 7/2.
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we are probably getting a little off-thread here, but I think Terri's defense attorney has a lot to work with. Except that we don't know what LE actually does know on 7/2.

I keep trying to imagine exactly how Terri is not cooperating (according to Desiree). I wonder if she keeps changing her story about leaving with/without Kyron and her whereabouts after that as she gleans what LE knows by the questions they ask her, Joran van der Sloot style. But since she agrees to talk to police, they can't exactly say she isn't cooperating.

And unless they have a witness who saw Kyron outside the school, I don't understand why they aren't searching Skyline with dogs.

What makes most sense to me is that there IS a witness, Terri says the witness is lying or mistaken, and the police don't want to tell us this just yet.
 
I'm guessing that Desiree is referring to what she believes are failed polygraphs. We don't know if in fact Terri passed or failed. Even if tests were scored as "inconclusive", Desiree might think she is holding back. So that might be where the "cooperate fully" comes in.

I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a witness at the school but feel they still need more to bring charges, as in maybe someone saw Terri and Kyron outside or near a door, but not leaving or getting into truck.
 
At one point, LE had said that they were interviewing everyone who was at the school that morning, including parents, staff and deliverymen. That last word caught my attention. A deliveryman could have asked for his help carrying something. Kyron would have felt safe in his school environment and helped out. The deliveryman could have taken him into a service closet or some other hidden place at the school, knocked him out and carried him out in a box directly into the back of his truck and driven off. That could be why no one saw Kyron leave the building but couldn't find him inside it either.
 
But a deliveryman would be a stranger, with potential danger to the community. And I truly do want to believe LE about that part... but maybe I am being naive about that.
 
...I'm wondering if the dogs tracked Kyron's scent through the school that morning and out to the parking lot and showed that he left in a car...similarly to what happened with Laci Peterson trail. They would have been able to see who's 'scent' he left with too...

So the 'witness' would be the dog.
 
cluciano63 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if LE has a witness at the school but feel they still need more to bring charges, as in maybe someone saw Terri and Kyron outside or near a door, but not leaving or getting into truck.
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They may not be comfortable with the witness they've got. They may also have expected Terri to confess when confronted with a witness. Terri may be saying there are things she doesn't remember.

Still, I can't reconcile these two things--that the sheriff says Kyron was last seen inside the school and that Terri was the last person to see him.
 
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