2010.07.16 - Kaine Horman: "Terri was a good person when we first met"

[Melanie]

I noticed the same thing too in her appearance. She seemed to pick up some weight after the baby. If she were on antidepressants that could explain the extra weight...which in my opinion would make her more depressed especially since she was a body builder in the past. I was on antidepressants in the past and I became more depressed that I was before I started them due to the sudden weight gain. She does look quiet different from the pictures when the baby was younger and that wasn't that long ago.

I have to agree. But when you think about the 2 options -- weight gain or depression, I'd go with weight gain. I can say this from a personal view, as I am on anti-depressants. I'd rather be fluffy than feel suicidal. But that's JMO. I would think any person who chooses vanity over sanity is making the wrong decision (but I get what you're saying).

MOO

Mel

 

[Chewy]

I was just looking at this picture and aside from the red hair it doesn't even look like the same woman.

 

[xin]

I noticed the same thing too in her appearance. She seemed to pick up some weight after the baby. If she were on antidepressants that could explain the extra weight...which in my opinion would make her more depressed especially since she was a body builder in the past. I was on antidepressants in the past and I became more depressed that I was before I started them due to the sudden weight gain. She does look quiet different from the pictures when the baby was younger and that wasn't that long ago.

plus maybe booze +

imo

 

[human]

I didn't say he can't stand pregnant women. Someone else expressed an opinion of the possibility of that scenario. I agreed that there are men who feel that way. Is KH one of them? IDK.

But I have observed (as have others) that he was involved in 2 marriages that seemed to disintegrate around the time of pregnancy/childbirth.

I had no opinion about it until he himself complained about the 2nd marriage experiencing problems after the birth of a child. That's when I began to wonder about the circumstances of the previous failed marriage, which also coincidentally occurred around the time of pregnancy/childbirth.

ETA: KH is the one who brought up the subject, and offered his perspective on the matter to the MSM, and as the result of his statements, it has since then become a topic of discussion.

But he and Desi were through and she discovered she was pregnant and they made a try at it. He didn't ditch her because she was pregnant.

It does appear that he likes women that already have a child, though.

Terri in her pictures looked really cute until about May. I wonder what happened then?

 

[sorrell skye]

But he and Desi were through and she discovered she was pregnant and they made a try at it. He didn't ditch her because she was pregnant.

It does appear that he likes women that already have a child, though.

Terri in her pictures looked really cute until about May. I wonder what happened then?

True - DY was the one who filed for divorce at a time when I imagine she must have felt very vulnerable (pregnant). Not to mention she later filed for an RO because she feared KH would try to remove the child from the home. The judge ultimately issued an RO against both parents. But it was DY who first sought an RO against KH, and I can't help but wonder why she felt she needed to initiate such a drastic action.

And now KH has made statements about how TH was a "good person" when he first met her.

It doesn't surprise me that TH *changed* after the baby was born. Bringing a child into the world (even if it's not the first born) & caring for it is one of the most stressful, life-changing events anyone will ever experience, even when everything is hunky-dory.

What I notice, however, is how KH describes that period as the time that the "marriage" became "rocky".

 

[Kat010]

I think that is what he thought, but she didn't. JMO

BBM.

For what it's worth, I think that what Kaine thinks and what Kaine wants and how he wants it is the *only* reality in Kaine's world. Elephant/room.

And I think that personality trait, along with his family's very troubled history and his own personal history, are important to the whole story here. Even if it turns out that someone else snatched Kyron other than TH, how he's handled things before and is handling things now is important.

If he's got to do all this press stuff, I wish he'd talk more about Kyron and less about slamming TH.

 

[mauirain]

Chewy, with all due respect, if your 7-year old son was missing and your SO and last person to see him wasn't cooperating with the police, would you support her? What if you had learned from LE that said person had hired someone to murder you?

I mean, really? I think Kaine has been nothing but short of respectful towards TH considering everything.

curious I agree with you on this, If I were in Kaines situation, I would have done exactly what he did. He was told by LE that they had reason to believe that Terri tried to have him murdered....on top of his son being missing and Terri was the last person to see him. How could you NOT react the way he did. I am sorry, but for his own protection and for the safety of his daughter, I feel he has done exactly what needed to be done in this horrifying situation.

 

[Chewy]

curious I agree with you on this, If I were in Kaines situation, I would have done exactly what he did. He was told by LE that they had reason to believe that Terri tried to have him murdered....on top of his son being missing and Terri was the last person to see him. How could you NOT react the way he did. I am sorry, but for his own protection and for the safety of his daughter, I feel he has done exactly what needed to be done in this horrifying situation.

I respectfully disagree. If I found out that my husband was plotting to have me murdered and my son was missing, my husband and our marital problems would be the last thing on my mind.

I'd be out the door of course but I'd be thinking of my son and only my son and I'd be focusing everything I could on getting my husband arrested and forcing him to talk. I would not be trashing him and embarassing him in the media spotlight by revealing personal information about him.

Why? Because if I did that and he was so spiteful as to have been willing to have me killed I'd do anything to get my kid back. I'd throw myself at his mercy and beg if I had to. I would not be talking trash about him and putting him down knowing that in doing so I'd likely never see my kid again.

It makes absolutely no sense to me what K is doing. He is simply sealing his child's fate IMOO> If she does have something to do with him being missing she will never talk.

As mad as I would be I would approach my husband with my family and extend some sort of effort at reaching the person I once felt I knew. I'd try desperately to make him do the right thing.

I don't get Ks strategy at all.

 

[mauirain]

Maybe she just snapped. That can happen.[/QUOTE

I have to disagree, if she just snapped, we would have more answers...This seems like real planning. IMO she seems manipulative and conniving. I do NOT feel sorry for her in the least. IMO she befriended DY, then moved in on Kaine for the benefits.....sick. Kyron missing and a MFH....and now sexting this MC guy......something is really wrong here and I don't think it has anything to do with PPD.

 

[mauirain]

I respectfully disagree. If I found out that my husband was plotting to have me murdered and my son was missing, my husband and our marital problems would be the last thing on my mind.

I'd be out the door of course but I'd be thinking of my son and only my son and I'd be focusing everything I could on getting my husband arrested and forcing him to talk. I would not be trashing him and embarassing him in the media spotlight by revealing personal information about him.

Why? Because if I did that and he was so spiteful as to have been willing to have me killed I'd do anything to get my kid back. I'd throw myself at his mercy and beg if I had to. I would not be talking trash about him and putting him down knowing that in doing so I'd likely never see my kid again.

It makes absolutely no sense to me what K is doing. He is simply sealing his child's fate IMOO> If she does have something to do with him being missing she will never talk.

As mad as I would be I would approach my husband with my family and extend some sort of effort at reaching the person I once felt I knew. I'd try desperately to make him do the right thing.
I don't get Ks strategy at all.

yes, with respect and in my opinion, I believe Kaine is making these statements as answers to questions the public and the media are asking him. Also in regards to your comments above, would you try to get him arrested, or would you approach him...two different things imo?????

People react to situations differently, and i respect that. I sure hope I never have to react to a situation like Kaine has. His child is missing and he has been told by LE that his wife tried to have him killed........now I may be missing something here, but who is sealing his child's fate......as if this is somehow "his" fault?????????

don't want to start a debate here, so this is all i am going to say on this.

 

[mauirain]

BBM~

I absolutely believe this as well. I also believe that as much as they say otherwise, every single word that has been spoken by DY, KH and TY has been orchestrated by LE. I firmly believe that TH is a classic narcissist and a sociopath. She lives her life 'for show'. She doesn't really LOVE people, but has learned to pretend to in order to fulfill HER OWN NEEDS...it's all about TH, all of the time, IMO. Whether or not it's going to work the way that LE hopes it will remains to be seen, but they are EXPOSING her for what she really is, as opposed to what she has pretended to be. I am not a psychologist, nor do I know these people, so this is speculation on my part, but I have had the misfortune of having been close to someone that had very similar personality traits.

Watching her behavior in the first PC was strange the first time around to say the least, but watching it now? Knowing what has been alleged at this point? Very, very telling, IMO, as she goes through the motions PRETENDING to be sad and looking to the others for cues on how to act. There is no doubt in my mind that the FBI had a FIELD DAY watching that unfold, and I believe that LE has this case firmly in hand, even though an arrest has not been made...YET.

I have also come to the sad conclusion that little Kyron is most likely dead. I hate to even type that, but it is MOO. I pray that I will be proven wrong. I only hope that he will be found, sooner rather than later, so that the family can have closure and JUSTICE for Kyron. Just remember that even though Caylee Anthony was not found for over six months, there was still A WEALTH of forensic evidence tying Casey to the crime. And I believe that the same will hold true in this case.

Sorry for the rant, but I am SO SICK of people doing terrible things to little kids that I can barely stand it anymore. :banghead: MOO!

Exactly my feelings as well.

 

[Chewy]

yes, with respect and in my opinion, I believe Kaine is making these statements as answers to questions the public and the media are asking him. Also in regards to your comments above, would you try to get him arrested, or would you approach him...two different things imo?????

People react to situations differently, and i respect that. I sure hope I never have to react to a situation like Kaine has. His child is missing and he has been told by LE that his wife tried to have him killed........now I may be missing something here, but who is sealing his child's fate......as if this is somehow "his" fault?????????

don't want to start a debate here, so this is all i am going to say on this.

The part that bothers me about KH is that he said that TH had PPD and that the marriage got rocky after the birth of their child.

This has nothing to do with Kyron. It is a private thing he shouldn't have discussed with the media. It's one thing if he reveals things that have something to do with this case but that was just "gossiping" about her. I don't care if the media asks him a question he doesn't have to answer it.

I'd do whatever it took to get my kid back. I would not trash the person who took him in the press. I wouldn't do that if it was a stranger either. I'd have nothing to say about them personally. I'd just want them to cooperate willingly or not.

There are two ways to approach this, if it's a loved one or family member I'd try to work on that level. If it came to a dead end I'd work on them being forced to talk.

I wouldn't be discussing when we started having problems in our marriage. Sorry and I won't post again cause I agree that this shouldn't be a debate, I just find his behavior bizarre to say the least.

 

[mauirain]

There was a case in my area several years ago, a woman stoned two of her little boys to death and left the baby severely brain damaged. She apparently suffered from PPD and it escalated into a psychosis. NO ONE saw it coming. Not her husband, her parents. her in-laws, nor her church friends. She heard voices telling her she had to kill her children to "save" them from the devil, and she called 911 herself. She is now in a mental institution where she will stay for the rest of her life. Her name is Deanna Laney, some of you may remember this case, it was nationally publcized, but didn't quite get the amount of national media attention as the Andrea Yates case.
But in both these cases, these women admitted what they did immediately. They did not try to cover it up, they didn't hide from LE. And these were their biological children.
If Terri did this, I don't think it was due to some psychosis resulting from PPD. I think she resented Kaine, and possibly Desiree and wanted to take away the one thing they had in common... their child. I also do not think she is insane, as both Andrea and Deanna were found to be. I think she might be very unstable but I think her motive was far different than these other women's were. JMHO, and I am sometimes wrong, too.

Yup, I think you nailed it right on. I don't think ppd is to blame in this case.

 

[Caligram]

I think that Kaine must be trying to hide how he feels, and is determined to appear "in control" and "a good father" in front of the media. He has begun to admit that there were "problems" in his marriage to Terri, and that her behavior was "different" at certain times. I am sure that he is feeling defensive over not "taking action", and feels partly to blame for Kyron's disappearance, if Terri was the predator, which seems to be the case.
It is possible that Terri put on a show for everybody when she was in the public eye, and that she did "good things" for the praise, not out of the kindness of her heart. She seems to have fooled a lot of people with her performances.
If I were in Kaine's place, I would feel defensive - like, well sure, problems, weird behavior, but nothing to indicate evil of this type could occur.
I lived a good part of my life chastising myself with "if only" and " I should'a, would'a could'a" before having to take a good look at why I always felt responsible for everything that went wrong in my life. If I had a crystal ball, I would have done lots of things differently. Now that I'm a grandma, I see things with a grammy's eyes, and am more forgiving of myself, but don't anybody dare to harm one of children or grands.

 

[K.Scarpetta]

Not sure what thread I should post this thought to......
Does anyone else remember earlier on before all the drama when either Terri or a friend speaking on her behalf stated something to the effect of
"Do not believe everything you will read/see in the media"
That statement for some reason keeps popping into my head every time I think about this case.
I am constantly falling off the fence (and then climbing right back on) I feel she is guilty in my heart, but I think that there is a lot more to this story.
Are we being duped? Is this really about custody or did Terri have such a hate on for Kaine that she murdered or hid a 7 yr old little boy she helped raise?
I would like more info on Kaine and his rumored affair, if it is true than it changes my perspective on the case.
Don't get me wrong I feel Terri is guilty of something , I just do not know of what. Her foreshadowing statement before the media smear campaign just keeps echoing in my mind.............amongst all those pesky voices only I can hear.

 

[cluciano63]

Not sure what thread I should post this thought to......
Does anyone else remember earlier on before all the drama when either Terri or a friend speaking on her behalf stated something to the effect of
"Do not believe everything you will read/see in the media"
That statement for some reason keeps popping into my head every time I think about this case.
I am constantly falling off the fence (and then climbing right back on) I feel she is guilty in my heart, but I think that there is a lot more to this story.
Are we being duped? Is this really about custody or did Terri have such a hate on for Kaine that she murdered or hid a 7 yr old little boy she helped raise?
I would like more info on Kaine and his rumored affair, if it is true than it changes my perspective on the case.
Don't get me wrong I feel Terri is guilty of something , I just do not know of what. Her foreshadowing statement before the media smear campaign just keeps echoing in my mind.............amongst all those pesky voices only I can hear.

It was Terri who wrote that on her FB at least twice within the first few days...which was odd as we had heard literally nothing from the media at that time except that Kyron was missing. If not OK to post this, please delete.

 

[Calliope]

It was Terri who wrote that on her FB at least twice within the first few days...which was odd as we had heard literally nothing from the media at that time except that Kyron was missing. If not OK to post this, please delete.

Did she write that after her mother was interviewed, where she was talking about the son being away on a camping trip, etc.?

 

[cluciano63]

Did she write that after her mother was interviewed, where she was talking about the son being away on a camping trip, etc.?

I think at least once was before, but not postive.

 

[Emeralgem]

I don't think ppd is to blame in this case either.. I refuse to make excuses IF she has physically harmed Kyron or is in anyway responsible for his disappearance...Pure unadulterated EVIL is what comes to my mind...JMO

In reference to Kaine thinking she was a GOOD person when he first met her...Well.....APPEARANCES CAN BE DECEIVING..JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Well I would hope he thought she was a good person if he was taking her into his life to care for his child.