2010.08.05 Dominic Casey emails

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Hi, my name is Crystal/Krystal. Isn't everybodies? lol :banghead:

Just finished reading the emails. I'll have to catch up on the thread tomorrow. I feel like poking my own eyes out. :crazy:

(does anybody feel just slightly sorry for DC?)

MY BOLD

I do. While he is a bumbler, it appears he was sincere and actually believed all this . . . crock of hooey he was being fed. I also believe that some folks are gifted with psychic powers, but I recognize that this field is full of charlatans and money-grubbers intent on sucking money from desperate people. Had I been in his shoes, I definitely would have taken these so-called "tips" (Puerto Rico, Georgia, NYC) with a grain of salt and demanded something much more concrete. Not only did the psychics regularly contradict each other, they also contradicted their own selves with conflicting theories and/or suspects that were incompatible with previous predictions. I can only guess that he became more and more enmeshed with Cindy and kept on drinking the Kool-Aid until he lost all his professional objectivity.
 
In Anthonyonics a lie can be a mistruth, half truth or a tip.
In my world a lie is lie is a lie.

Lamb Chop reminds me that yes, these folks CAN make this stuff up.

This interview was a commercial for her ( on her part ). I wish Mr. Hornsby would have been able to conduct the entire interview, every time he pinned her down she changed her story. All she wanted to do was recite little examples of what she does and with what alleged success and say things to indicate she is a good person and good parent and volunteer. She wont testify but Linda and or Jeff would mop the floor with this nonsense. I laughed throughout the interview. It was preposterous.
The one true thing was that Dom was inexperienced and this was his only case. On his web sight doesn't he boast years and years of experience?
In construction he began and in construction he may as well return. I do not expect him to ever work another day in the PI field.
My impression of her was that I didn't buy one claim of hers. I never did and tonight she contradicted herself every five minutes, so my thoughts on her are sured up, for me. In my opinion, she Luke and Dom are exposed, in a comprehensive fashion. Reconstruction is the term Mr. Hornsby used. That is being overly generous, then he added that she doesn't have a strong grasp of the case. OK....let's go with that.

The most concerning, curious thing to me has always been and remains, why in the world a defense attorney would hire a PI that has only been one for mere months who has no specialized education or training on missing children. That was a glaring example of how the defense was in the weeds from jump. What a nightmare decision that was on the part of Baez to involve this man in such a serious case. All of the foolishness that branched from Dominic being on the case is tough to measure, but we see now for certain what we have expected...it was a misguided disaster, of biblical proportions. MOO
She has died a couple of times she claims. Alrighty then.


"Jose Baez has a million problems" Richard Hornsby

I'll say!!!!!!!!
 
I agree that true psychics exist but as I've said before they are only .01 % of those who claim to be psychics. From just reading the parsed stuff here it's obvious they are charlatans. IMO, they impeded the investigation by deliberately trying to waste LE's time.

You would think that after more than 150 years of scientific testing of psychics, there would be at least one who could demonstrate a single psychic ability under test conditions. Parapsychologist Dean Radin claims the evidence for psychic phenomena is so strong that only bias and prejudice keep skeptics from accepting the reality of ESP or PK.

So why doesn't he claim the million dollar prize, then? Randi $1,000,000 paranormal challenge ended in March this year with no takers.

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The number of proven psychics is a lot less than 0.01% of those who claim to be. In fact, it's zero.

Most parapsychologists have given up trying to find a single person with a single paranormal ability. They study groups of people and collect gobs of data, hoping to find a statistic not likely due to chance, which they then declare to be evidence of psi because it is their hypothesis that if the statistic is not likely due to chance then it is reasonable to conclude that it is due to psi.

In other words, they've gone from being duped by con artists to duping themselves.

No offence SD, just stating the obvious.
 
In Anthonyonics a lie can be a mistruth, half truth or a tip.
In my world a lie is lie is a lie.


Lamb Chop reminds me that yes, these folks CAN make this stuff up.

This interview was a commercial for her ( on her part ). I wish Mr. Hornsby would have been able to conduct the entire interview, every time he pinned her down she changed her story. All she wanted to do was recite little examples of what she does and with what alleged success and say things to indicate she is a good person and good parent and volunteer. She wont testify but Linda and or Jeff would mop the floor with this nonsense. I laughed throughout the interview. It was preposterous.
The one true thing was that Dom was inexperienced and this was his only case. On his web sight doesn't he boast years and years of experience?
In construction he began and in construction he may as well return. I do not expect him to ever work another day in the PI field.
My impression of her was that I didn't buy one claim of hers. I never did and tonight she contradicted herself every five minutes, so my thoughts on her are sured up, for me. In my opinion, she Luke and Dom are exposed, in a comprehensive fashion. Reconstruction is the term Mr. Hornsby used. That is being overly generous, then he added that she doesn't have a strong grasp of the case. OK....let's go with that.

BBM

:clap: Just read CA's brother's interview with the FBI and police. She says KC only stole $50 from her grandfathers nursing home account and in fact it was $354.00. IMO, the amount doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Stealing any money by check fraud from your grandfather's nursing home account is deplorable and the fact that CA downplayed it is extremely sad and extremely telling. JMO

You would think that after more than 150 years of scientific testing of psychics, there would be at least one who could demonstrate a single psychic ability under test conditions. Parapsychologist Dean Radin claims the evidence for psychic phenomena is so strong that only bias and prejudice keep skeptics from accepting the reality of ESP or PK.

So why doesn't he claim the million dollar prize, then? Randi $1,000,000 paranormal challenge ended in March this year with no takers.

xkcd363.gif


The number of proven psychics is a lot less than 0.01% of those who claim to be. In fact, it's zero.

Most parapsychologists have given up trying to find a single person with a single paranormal ability. They study groups of people and collect gobs of data, hoping to find a statistic not likely due to chance, which they then declare to be evidence of psi because it is their hypothesis that if the statistic is not likely due to chance then it is reasonable to conclude that it is due to psi.

In other words, they've gone from being duped by con artists to duping themselves.

No offence SD, just stating the obvious.

I don't get TruTv on my cable anymore but if they are still running the show psychic detectives you should watch it. There are people with the gift, IMO. Some cops swear by them.
 
BTW, are all of the Emails in the doc dump between Ginette and others all about Caylee? If so the Emails start on June 21st, 2008. That would be three weeks before Caylee is reported missing. :waitasec:
 
I don't get TruTv on my cable anymore but if they are still running the show psychic detectives you should watch it. There are people with the gift, IMO. Some cops swear by them.

TruTV? LOL.

Psychic Detectives? :waitasec:

Despite the overwhelming evidence that psychic detectives are deluded or frauds, you can divide the world of psychics into psychics and pseudo-psychics.

Pseudo-psychics are divided into authentic (those who are not aware that they are using tricks or ordinary means of perception, information gathering, reasoning, etc.) and unauthentic (the outright frauds).

In the so called age of science, it still surprises me how many people still hold so many irrational beliefs.

I keep coming back to james Randi (and the hundreds of other before him) who throw out a challenge to the world's psychics: Prove what you do is real, and I'll give you a million dollars

Now, you don't REALLY believe that a docu-drama show on TRUTV amounts to evidence, do you?
 
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSM6fKIzsDE&feature=related[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXFSVgFv7Mg&feature=related[/ame]
 
TruTV? LOL.

Psychic Detectives? :waitasec:

Despite the overwhelming evidence that psychic detectives are deluded or frauds, you can divide the world of psychics into psychics and pseudo-psychics.

Pseudo-psychics are divided into authentic (those who are not aware that they are using tricks or ordinary means of perception, information gathering, reasoning, etc.) and unauthentic (the outright frauds).

In the so called age of science, it still surprises me how many people still hold so many irrational beliefs.

I keep coming back to james Randi (and the hundreds of other before him) who throw out a challenge to the world's psychics: Prove what you do is real, and I'll give you a million dollars

Now, you don't REALLY believe that a docu-drama show on TRUTV amounts to evidence, do you?

BBM

Yes, I do. :thumb:
 
I think that this is an interesting glimpse into the behind the scenes, but I havent decided how I feel about any of it. I mean, at the time no one knew where Caylee was. She had not been found. So there was active speculation on whether or not she had been sold or given away IIRC. I would think then that most theories were fair game at the time.

I cannot decide if I feel that DC was stringing his contacts along or if he actually believed that there was an alive Caylee out there. Until he went searching for her body in that well documented event in November, of course.

Kelly Jolkowski of Project Jason has always summed up my opinion of psychics, fwiw-there is no evidence that a single tip from a self proclaimed psychic has ever solved a case. Never. Ever.
 
I think that this is an interesting glimpse into the behind the scenes, but I havent decided how I feel about any of it. I mean, at the time no one knew where Caylee was. She had not been found. So there was active speculation on whether or not she had been sold or given away IIRC. I would think then that most theories were fair game at the time.

I cannot decide if I feel that DC was stringing his contacts along or if he actually believed that there was an alive Caylee out there. Until he went searching for her body in that well documented event in November, of course.

Kelly Jolkowski of Project Jason has always summed up my opinion of psychics, fwiw-there is no evidence that a single tip from a self proclaimed psychic has ever solved a case. Never. Ever.

Watch the Psychic Detectives show above and then read the NG transcript and tell me that there is no such thing as psychics.

BTW, solving a case is a term open for interpretation. I don't think psychics solve cases. I think they help solve cases. JMO
 
Steely Dan and Galina, yes, I believe there are people with excellent psychic ability. As I've said, I've had quite a number of my own psychic experiences, I know others who've had them. In all our experiences, I've found they are much stronger and best when they are spontaneous, not asked for, so I have a lot of problems with those who say they are "psychic" on demand. I don't fault desperate families for asking psychics to help. What I distrust are those who make a commercial of their "expertise", those who do it for a living, and those who are downright charlatans and not psychics at all, but only out for fame and wealth.

For the record, I don't believe any scientific test is reliable to check a person's ability because as I said, the best psychic achievements are the spontaneous, non-forced ones. :cow: :cow: :cow:

All people have psychic ability, not everyone uses theirs, but we all have it.

Just for the record, I and many others, after seeing those woods behind the Anthony house, did think it was a perfect place to hide a body. The second I saw an aerial view of the neighborhood, I said, "Woe, somebody needs to search there". As did many others. Call it instinct, psychic gift, gut feeling, we all have it.
 
I am only going to speak briefly on this topic because I don't think it is productive to paint with broad brushes and offend our members for having beliefs different for mine. I have very defined opinions on the matter, of course.
I am only commenting on the nature of a show and what credence one should give it.

When a producer is having a show edited, KNOW that the ten to one hundred parts that are left on the cutting room floor are the parts that do not demonstrate the idea the show is trying to present. If you see a show on Nostrodamis, for example the theme of the show is not the thousands of things he may have predicted that never did come true. When you watch a Martha Stewart show, you can bet your life if the first three cakes messed up, you will see none of that in the final episode. If you watch a psychic detective show , imo, you may likewise infer that you are being shown very selective things and not the full story.
It is important to understand that when you read anything or watch anything, ever.

For the sake of this discussion, let's imagine that just as some children are born a prodigy with seemingly miraculous gifts to draw or write music, or play instruments, that some people are more intuitive than others, just hard wired that way. How in the world , could anyone , whether it be just knowing by statistics that when a woman kills their child they are most likely by overwhelming odds to be found within extremely short distances from their homes and in places that are very familiar to them, a simple observation of her personality could bring one to the same conclusion LP came to, which is our Casey is not digging any grave or going to any physical effort, the child will be somewhere that was simply the easiest place to put her, with an utter lack of planning, whether she was sent or googled maps of the Anthony neighborhood and found the likely wooded area that backed up to their home to be a shot in the dark,or whether she had some magic vision or dream after studying the voluminous amount of information that was all over the internet and evening talk shows, DAILY, at the time......doesn't she lose you at her response to "Why didn't YOU call the police?"

I am a very unforgiving type when it comes to matters like this. Once I deem someone to be unreliable I pretty much discount them or what they say, ever.
I live by Ronald Reagan's "Trust......but verify".
As he often does, put emphasis on the worst possible subjects that if he wouldn't draw attention to them would quickly fade off the front page, I expect Baez to be on Geraldo in no time renouncing what Dominic accused him of, manufacturing lies to sell to Geraldo.
He just never learns. That is the only amusing thing I find in these e mails. The rest of them are utterly vile to me. If Dom would have taken five seconds to google Luke and Jenny, he would have known their reputations precede them. This was his ONLY case, he was inexperienced...yes and it shows.
I trust that the Florida authorities for private investigators will make sure he is not in a position to lie to lawyers he works for and purposely provide them false information ever, ever again. MOO
 
I am only going to speak briefly on this topic because I don't think it is productive to paint with broad brushes and offend our members for having beliefs different for mine. I have very defined opinions on the matter, of course.
I am only commenting on the nature of a show and what credence one should give it.

When a producer is having a show edited, KNOW that the ten to one hundred parts that are left on the cutting room floor are the parts that do not demonstrate the idea the show is trying to present. If you see a show on Nostrodamis, for example the theme of the show is not the thousands of things he may have predicted that never did come true. When you watch a Martha Stewart show, you can bet your life if the first three cakes messed up, you will see none of that in the final episode. If you watch a psychic detective show , imo, you may likewise infer that you are being shown very selective things and not the full story.
It is important to understand that when you read anything or watch anything, ever.

For the sake of this discussion, let's imagine that just as some children are born a prodigy with seemingly miraculous gifts to draw or write music, or play instruments, that some people are more intuitive than others, just hard wired that way. How in the world , could anyone , whether it be just knowing by statistics that when a woman kills their child they are most likely by overwhelming odds to be found within extremely short distances from their homes and in places that are very familiar to them, a simple observation of her personality could bring one to the same conclusion LP came to, which is our Casey is not digging any grave or going to any physical effort, the child will be somewhere that was simply the easiest place to put her, with an utter lack of planning, whether she was sent or googled maps of the Anthony neighborhood and found the likely wooded area that backed up to their home to be a shot in the dark,or whether she had some magic vision or dream after studying the voluminous amount of information that was all over the internet and evening talk shows, DAILY, at the time......doesn't she lose you at her response to "Why didn't YOU call the police?"

I am a very unforgiving type when it comes to matters like this. Once I deem someone to be unreliable I pretty much discount them or what they say, ever.
I live by Ronald Reagan's "Trust......but verify".
As he often does, put emphasis on the worst possible subjects that if he wouldn't draw attention to them would quickly fade off the front page, I expect Baez to be on Geraldo in no time renouncing what Dominic accused him of, manufacturing lies to sell to Geraldo.
He just never learns. That is the only amusing thing I find in these e mails. The rest of them is utterly vile to me. If Dom would have taken five seconds to google Luke and Jenny, he would have known their reputations precede them. This was his ONLY case, he was inexperienced...yes and it shows.
I know the Florida authorities for private investigators will make sure he is not in a position to lie to lawyers he works for and purposely provide them false information ever, ever again. MOO

Just for the record I believe Ginette is an uber-fraud. JMO
 
......doesn't she lose you at her response to "Why didn't YOU call the police?"

For the sake of space and clarity, I've snipped your post to what I believe is a most important point.

Yes, most certainly, when she was asked why she didn't call the police, I was shaking my head. DC said he would let LE know. Days went by and she made no inquiries, no calls to the police. Why? If there was something there...? There was much about her call that make me say, "Huh?".

In the interview she gave last year, the TV reporter said she was told by this psychic she told DC NOT to tell Cindy. Yet she thought DC would be calling LE? All fishy. :innocent:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPPUJ5-BIs&NR=1[/ame]

Btw, TWA, great post. Editing is a major factor in what we see and don't see. Always.
 
For the sake of space and clarity, I've snipped your post to what I believe is a most important point.

Yes, most certainly, when she was asked why she didn't call the police, I was shaking my head. DC said he would let LE know. Days went by and she made no inquiries, no calls to the police. Why? If there was something there...? There was much about her call that make me say, "Huh?".

In the interview she gave last year, the TV reporter said she was told by this psychic she told DC NOT to tell Cindy. Yet she thought DC would be calling LE? All fishy. :innocent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPPUJ5-BIs&NR=1

Btw, TWA, great post. Editing is a major factor in what we see and don't see. Always.

To be fair I think she said not to call CA until the body had been found. IIRC.

Then the question is did DC call CA because supposedly he did find the body.
 
How does one explain though that DC was in the area of the body? Who guided him on that phone? If it wasn't the pychic, who was it? I don't believe it was CA, I just don't think she knew, perhaps it was DC who told CA what GL was telling him about the woods. IYKWIM. When did CA make that statement about not believing Caylee was in the woods?
 
How does one explain though that DC was in the area of the body? Who guided him on that phone? If it wasn't the pychic, who was it? I don't believe it was CA, I just don't think she knew, perhaps it was DC who told CA what GL was telling him about the woods. IYKWIM. When did CA make that statement about not believing Caylee was in the woods?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGLTPZqBHU[/ame]

Someone said that Dominic sent Luke maps of the area, on Steph's show last night Jenny said that they kept sending her pictures, in one of Dominic's e mails he said he was suspicious of this area based on something Casey had been saying that Caylee is close. If TES volunteers, and Joy can venture a guess to look in the woods closest to the Anthony home, it is not a miracle that she would focus on that area. I believe she was on the phone with him. what I do not believe is it was magic powers that got her there. We have all came up with our expectation from A to Z of what will happen in this case, with amazing accuracy. I know I have no magic, if I had I sure wouldn't owe so much on my taxes. . MOO
Moreover, we know from Mr. Miller that in front of mom, pop asked Casey to put an X on the map of where in the woods TES should search. In my opinion Cindy very well knew the child was dead and that location is a no brainer to search. View attachment Miller, tim.doc
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGLTPZqBHU

Someone said that Dominic sent Luke maps of the area, on Steph's show last night Jenny said that they kept sending her pictures, in one of Dominic's e mails he said he was suspicious of this area based on something Casey had been saying that Caylee is close. If TES volunteers, and Joy can venture a guess to look in the woods closest to the Anthony home, it is not a miracle that she would focus on that area.
Moreover, we know from Mr. Miller that in front of mom, pop asked Casey to put an X on the map of where in the woods TES should search. In my opinion Cindy very well knew the child was dead and that location is a no brainer to search.

So you think it wasn't GL telling DC and DC telling CA, it was the other way around?
There is just enough confusion and waffling on all parties that the truth cannot be pinned down. We have a psychic who is taking the credit and a PI that isn't talking and a GM who lies . Even the truth is a fabrication at this point. Truth is another casuality of this fiasco and tragedy.
 
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