2011.06.02 TRIAL Day Eight (Morning Session)

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I'm beginning to really have no respect for defense attorney's if all they have to do is get up and make someone look bad, treat them poorly, dig up their dirt, just to divert attention from their client. I don't believe this is what our forefathers had in mind. CM and JB make a mockery of our justice system.
 
I really don't know where CM was going. The interview tape from Universal clearly states that she is talking to them freely and that the door is open and she is allowed to leave. Oh please make them (DT) stop.
 
ldb: casey maintained the "charade" (love it! used dt's words back at them!)
 
LBD sounds like she's badgering now. She's using my stern 'mom voice'. lol
 
Oh Good Lord! Does the defense actually think that this is the way to win over a jury? They are just making me dislike them a lot.

On behalf of southerners everywhere, I apologize for this lawyer.

On the other hand, I love the prosecutors. They are great attorneys.

By the way, how can one testify to what someone else "knew"?
 
logicalgirl said:
I don't get what Mason is trying to do - maybe prove entrapment and supporting ICA's "delusions" but since the DT can't use diminished mental capacity - I don't understand the point of it.
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She led them there. That is the only reason they were even there. She could have stopped the nutty field trip at any time. She even over the phone agreed to be driven there. WTH.

She trapped her own self in her own web of lies.
 
OH BOYYYYYYYYYY!!!! It's EVERYBODY"S fault but Casey's :loser:
 
From Steve Helling on Twitter:

Not convinced that Cheney Mason's aggressive questioning is playing well with the jury.
 
IMO... ICA..needed all this time... leading up to dec.... for the body to either disappear and/or decompose to the point of finding no evidence....against her... the longer...the better.. or so.. she thought...
 
He believes ICA knew when she pointed to the random building that he knew she didn't work there. Everyone already knew that.

He took it upon himself to get the conference room. No one advised her of her Miranda rights before going in. (ICA looks bored)

He doesn't know the dimensions of the room. 3 detectives went in with ICA. He stayed out. Doesn't recall how long they were in there. His statement said 30 to 45 min. Doesn't know if the proceeding in conf room was recorded.

Thomas Manley is imaginary person. (ICA talking to JB)

CM done questioning.

LDB back - He agreed she knew she didn't work there when she was at the gate. She knew that as they walked to the building. She was not handcuffed. He doesn't recall if they asked if she would go in. She did not appear to resist going in. He didn't watch them walk in.

As they were walking off property, ICA asked if they had looked in other states for found children.

LDB done.

Witness excused.
 
I liked that ending.

It had ICA walking out chatting to LE about missing children.
 


Leonard Turtora - loss prevention @ Universal...internal and external theft, security operations @ resort.....primarily deal with Orlando Police occassional OCSO will get involved....YM showed up @ security asking info about alleged or potential employee.....re: kc current employee @ Universal? . ....access to databases with info on all previous and current employees @ Universal....kc employ status....not current employed ....she was employed by a 3rd party who does business on their property....not owned by Universal....3rd party vender - Colorvision sub of Kodak - the pics of people in the park and want to see you pics.....last date of employment April 2006 ....Ym gave 3 other names to check....Jeff Hopkins employed late 2001 - 2002, Juliette Lewis - no reference to this person in Universal database, ZFG - not employed @ Universal nor thru 3rd party....later YM asked him to verify email address....Cheryl Davis not of Universal employ.....met w/YM @ his office in the park.....that day he met kc - after confirm she wasn't employed there - YM put her on speaker phone...YM asked her questions...2 detective will pick her up and bring her to Universal...met her outside @ Security gate where employees come thru....YM and he met her @ security gate....kc stated she was current employee - didn't have her ID.....needed to get to her building ...kc employee number wasn't known.....she worked in events....marketing or entertainment? kc answered little of both...can't be true.....kc gave name of Supv of Thomas Manley...officer used Universal phone book - Manley....couldn't find his name....officer had no record of that name......
offered to take her back...walked in building....

finally kc put hands in back pocket and said I dont work here - YM and kc were in conference room 30-45 min....emerged from from conference room YM came out and used cell once and later 2 det came out and used cell phones....kc didn't come out....when they were done - he escorted all of them out same way they came thru..
Cross Exam....

CM- YM arranged meeting he already knew kc wasn't employee...brought her out there....meeting was a Sham wasn't it? (object- overrule) No sir!
were you pretending kc was an employee when you knew she wasn't? no
YM contacted you....

she not employee/hadn't been in couple years
doesn't recall her being upset or crying.....all of you knew she wasn't an employee - Det Allen and Wells .... still walked with her she pointed to a building.....200 yards from gate to that building....couple minute walk.....went along w/charade and let her pretend.....started down a hallway....as soon as we walked in she knew I knew she didn't work there - I asked where are we going.....she spoke directly to LT when she said I don't work here - LT offered a room for them to talk - not mirandized in his presence - don't know dimensions of the room - 3 detectives in there w/kc - LT didn't go in with them....how long in that small room w/3 dectectives 30-40 min....don't know if it was tape recorded - hasn't reviewed it....asked to check on identity of Tom Manley - real or imaginary? imaginary....... anything else to do with this? No Sir!

Redirect - LDB
based on kc statement to you she knew she didn't work there - when she was @ gate she wasn't an employee even tho she made statements she was ....all the time during walk from gates to building she knew she wasn't an employee....maintained charade.....no handcuffs....don't recall any conversation they had.....don't remember if she resisted to walk in the room....as walking out of Universal property she asked if they looked in other states for children.....

Witness excused


 
CM directs his questions to the witness as if the THEY were on trial for a crime. He has been watching way too much TV.
 
Oh that's rich - even after she was busted, she asked detectives if they had looked in other states.
 
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