2011.06.07 TRIAL Day Twelve (Morning Session)

[megsy]

THIS is what I have missed....so chloroform WAS found in the gatorade bottle? What about the Crystal Light bottle that was inside the trash...the brown liquid...was that positive for chloroform too?

If so, can they determine if it was homemade? TIA

The brown liquid is dip spit.

 

[QB.]

Because the FBI chemist was testing for chloroform residue on items. Dr. Vass was analyzing the air samples.

Got it.
That is why they fought so hard to get it in. A different and more sensitive test, yes?

 

[LetJusticePrevail]

Regarding the 2nd bullet, this would be like asking jurors to compare apples to apples. Dr. Vass was testifying to chloroform in the air. This witness is testifying to air in the items in the trunk.

Baez is doing an excellent job with this witness.
- he has established that the leval of cloraform found is consistant with cleaning fluid.
- the witness has directly contradicted Dr Vass's testimony regarding "shockingly high" levals
- regardless of your personal feelings regarding him, this is very effective. The question is - will he quit while he's ahead.

 

[legalmania]

Yes, the GCMS has been used in testimony during court.

Dr. Vass just started experimenting with decomposition and his machine in 2004. What I'm saying is I need additional proof the machine works.

 

[yllek]

JA will clear it up....have patience.

I hope so! So far, Baez is scoring points with what is apparently vastly different results for the presence of chloroform by Dr. Vass vs the FBI. Ashton really needs to tell us why. I am currently wondering why the state even called this witness after Dr. Vass. Hopefully, Ashton will make it very clear on re-direct.

I know others dont' think the can mix up is a big deal. Personally, I don't think so either. Impersonally, I believe it opens a big door for Baez to hammer home what he has been pushing all along; chain of custody issues and protocol issues. Doesn't matter if he's right, only matters if he can create doubt with the jurors who are determining the fate of someone's life.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I'm a little worried here. Dr. Vass testified that the "point of origin" of the chloroform WAS the piece of the carpet. Now, from what I'm getting - this Dr. is saying there were only low levels of Chloroform on the trunk liner.

 

[MyTinkieGirl]

No no no. If she was then that would go against Baez. Because the chlorine from the swimming suit could be from Caylee's swimming suit post mortem.

But that's not the real issue. The real issue is where did the chloroform come from? The Anthony's did not have a chloroform pool.

Sorry....didn't get the "chloroform pool" part....

 

[Eidetic]

 

[Camille]

Jose did well with this cross.

 

[the seeker]

Oh good..redirect. Lets clear some of this up....

 

[Bobbarita]

OMG! JA has to rescue this!

 

[Pink Panther]

JA is pzzed.

 

[epiphany]

Baez ends with MR agreeing that chloroform levels found are consistent w/levels found in cleaning products.

 

[uklaw]

The DT need to object to JA's leading questions.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Did you find any other substances that would have indicated cleaning products?

In a nutshell...NO SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO they could or could NOT have been there.

Well done.

 

[rosepetal1065]

I stepped away for a second...was there a bottle found with choroform in the evidence?

 

[Donjeta]

I wouldn't be surprised to know that cleaning products were used for that trunk.

I think I would, if I'd had a decomposing child in there.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

witness stated that he was only tasked with looking for chloroform and nothing else....

 

[legalmania]

An explosives trace-detection portal machine, also known as a trace portal machine or puffer machine, is a security device that seeks to detect explosives and illegal drugs at airports and other sensitive facilities as a part of airport security screening.

This device has been in service for years.

But not human decomposition.

 

[Scamperoo]

As much as we don't want to admit it, and as much as we quite possible hate the fact, JB is getting in some good points today especially. If the only evidence in this case (which it isn't) was the air tests and chromotography, then the DT could very well introduce reasonable doubt. There are all kinds of ways... chain of evidence problems; calibration problems; problems with organic compounds being in other "situations" in nature outside of a human decomposition event... etc... so I hope the jury is paying attention to all of the plethora of other evidence which, when they connect the dots, will lead to KC's conviction.

Don't hit me

What I don't understand is how the assumption is made that because the defense makes a small point or two, that everyone then comes out of the woodwork with omg the defense says something sensible and we have reasonable doubt.
We could pick apart each side and say because of this it is going to go one way or another, but it isn't true, this will be decided on the totality of what is presented not on any single part. I for one have complete faith in this jury. (fingers crossed)