2011.06.22 TRIAL Day Twenty-five (Morning Session)

[Cherry Baby]

Everybody sing along with me...there was no chlorine in the pool, there was no chlorine in the pool!

 

[KenoshaKid]

Can't say where the chloroform came from. It was just there.

 

[ami]

Did you detect an odor in coming from the trunk?

YES.

 

[Velouria]

I believe that she will not find it hard to decide on guilt or innocence. It is the penalty phase, I believe that will be hard for this juror, and she more than likely will not be able to vote for death, however, her single vote may not matter at the time depending on how many do vote for death.

I ask myself often how it must have felt for this kind woman who does not want to judge anyone to see Caylee's skull thrown out among the trash out in those woods. I often wonder how she felt as she heard Casey saying the "F" word to her mother, as if it were nothing. I often wonder how she feels sitting there hearing that this young lady laid up in bed with her boyfriend the entire next day after her child had drown, knowing that her loving Father had to endure getting rid of the body for her, (or so the defense says).

There is no doubt in my mind that this trial has changed the way this woman feels. She will be able to decide on guilt and innocence, and I don't think it will take any persuasion. And as long as the majority rules, I don't think her vote will decide the death penalty or not. It's possible, but in this case, I do not think it will happen.

I do hope you're right, but I'm not entirely convinced she won't want to vote for some lesser charge than first degree murder. She should have never been selected as a juror in the first place, IMO.

 

[KenoshaKid]

Asking about trunk odor, said there was an odor.

 

[okiedokietoo]

JA: when your worked with the trunk did you detect an odor
Dr.S: yes there was an odor

 

[Mamabear1963]

I want to go on the record as feeling that juror #4 isn't going to be the problem.

She is going to want justice, is going to be paying attention...and really...she is going to be harder on ICA imo.

Just because someone doesn't believe in judging others doesn't mean they want people like ICA on the street.

 

[Bittiness39]

The only way this case could go worse for the defense is if jose baez dropped his trousers and streaked through the courtroom...

sorry for the visual...

 

[NavySubMom]

Even CM doesn't know what this witness will say??

 

[reeseeva]

Why doesn't Jeff A know there was no chlorine in the Anthony pool????

 

[KenoshaKid]

CM said only 2 samples had chloroform, witness said no, there were more. Duh, Mason.

 

[Eileen730]

Don't forget that a parole board would have to consider her attitude and behavior as part of their decision to release. I don't think she'd fare well in those categories.

:cow:

Oh i do she is very very good at deception.. JMO

 

[pipkins]

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TrialNotes Trial Notes
JA: Did you detect odor from trunk? Sigman: Yes. JA: Any background to ID that odor? Sigman: No. (Ashton done.)

 

[okiedokietoo]

CM: main thing that was there, was gasoline

 

[TraceyLeigh]

I see CM and "The Night That The Lights Went Out in Georgia" starts playing in my head...

 

[logicalgirl]

NG's 'Tot Mom' screech is precisely why I thought there was NOTHING to this story, back in the day. I missed so much great sleuthing, b/c of that hyperbolic gas bag (JMHO).

Nancy was taking the People magazine guy to task for their headline this week suggesting that ICA would be acquitted. I don't blame her based on the past four or five Defence Days.

His answer - (Steve Helling) was that next week they will probably run one that says she is guilty...

 

[Quiche]

I want to go on the record as feeling that juror #4 isn't going to be the problem.

She is going to want justice, is going to be paying attention...and really...she is going to be harder on ICA imo.

Just because someone doesn't believe in judging others doesn't mean they want people like ICA on the street.

I agree-- if she's attentive during the defense presentations, then I think she's giving them a fair shake... even though they're failing. mo

 

[mombomb]

10:28

SIDEBAR #3 (10:28-10:31)

Jury coming back

CROSS EXAMINATION OF MICHAEL SIGMAN BY JA

Air samples from trunk which were put in Tevlar bags was done on 7/21/08. They opened the trunk about 1 inch to get the syringe needle in it. They did not open and inspect the trunk and did not know that the trunk liner had been removed 4 days earlier.

250 micro liters - 1 micro liter is 1 millionths of a liter. The syringe internal diameter was about that of a led pencil and the length of draw on the syringe was about 1/4 inch.

On 7/21 they pulled 2 samples - 1 liter and 300 ml - these were placed in the Tevlar bags and held by the OCOS. Mike Vincent brought him the 300 ml bag to him on the 22nd.

Dr. Vass wanted him to use a triple-sorbent trap, but he did not have one. this involves using a pump and gives you more air to sample. Each of the three sorbents gives different metabolites. You can test a large volume of air.

His analysis of the air sample showed some weak signals for organic compounds.

He then went to the solid phase fiber method. Though better than the Tevlar, still not as concentrated as the triple-sorbent. This will probably give a worse signal. The triple-sorbent trap is a better method than both. He used the best method he had available.

His sample tells what was in the air in the trunk - not where it came from.

He was still able to detect chloroform and the other components. These are listed as items coming from decomp as well as other sources.

Chloroform can come from a reaction between bleach and certain organic components. One report from an Iranian journal reported chloroform in pools and in people who swim in pools - in very minor amounts.

Should there be other components? Bromide could react and lead to chloroform but with other signature chemicals.

He's not aware of any literature discussing a bathing suit in a trunk causing chloroform to be present.

There is nothing in his results to indicate the source of the chloroform - they simply know it is there.

Decomp is not his specialty.

When he opened the trunk, he noticed an odor coming from the trunk. He does not have any background in identifying the odor.

REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY CM

Slight traces of chloroform was found in sample 3 - 40 minute fiber - and the 2 fibers from 7.5 hours also contained the 3 compounds.

He does not know the source of any of those three.

The predominant chromatographic profile was identified as gasoline.

No further questions.

RECROSS BY JA

It did not surprise him to find elements of gas in a trunk.

No further questions.

Witness is excused.

 

[FaerieB]

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[ami]

Witness was not surprised to find gasoline vapor in a garage setting after trunk liner was removed.