2011.06.25 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty-eight)

[AbbieNormal]

I am very familiar with cremation jewelry because I have lived exclusively within the military community for not only almost two decades but over 10 years of those were lived during the war(s).

To be honest I think nothing of it. I knew someone that had a small bit her Husband's ashes in an absolutely beautiful necklace and she said it was so that she could "always have him close to her heart".

But we each have our own opinions. That is what makes WS so interesting

All JMHO.

OT but my cousin lost her daughter at 16 to suicide and for a long time could not deal with it...I don't think she knew about cremation jewelry (and neither did I cos I would have told her about it). She came to my town for a visit and she went into a small boutique jewelry store and commissioned the jeweler to make a puffed heart necklace and had something engraved on it, can't remember what. Since she lived out of town she had me check on the progress of it, it took many months. She paid $3800.00 for the heart, which had an opening and she poured some of her daughters ashes in it, and we superglued it closed after she filled it up. She spent another $500 on a chain

She says it brings her peace. I say whatever eases the pain, go for it.

As we were looking at her daughters ashes for the very first time, and were spooning some out to put into the heart, she was crying and said "I wonder what part of her this was?"

This was 3 years after she died.

 

[bayouland]

In Mallory's jail letter to Casey, she asks her where she got the bracelet for Lee (and apparently Casey and Lee had matching bracelets...mmm) because it had been cut by someone at a concert and he was extremely upset so she wanted to replace it for him. She went on and on about please if you don't write anything else back to me at least write about that, or tell Jose so he can let me know where you bought it. I think this is the bracelet that Lee was kissing at the memorial. And if you watch the jail videos with Casey and Lee, she actually asks him about "those are new" referring to the Caylee is missing bracelets that he had on, and she seemed kinda peeved, like "how dare you wear another bracelet" It's really weird. Sorry for the major run on.

There is something strange and hidden in this family. What is it?

 

[technicalconfusion]

Just another thing I thought of
This Jury is compiled of Florida Residents.. they know the weather in this state ..and they know
1 How awful HOT it is
2 How the rain comes down and how we get floods

That alone will take them to common sense about the the conditions Caylee's little body endured.. so that will speak wonders about theses so called EXPERT Witness reports that the DT has tried to bring in to play
So as our beloved JA has stated "BRING IT ON "

The problem with JBs witnesses is he only gave them enough info to see something different. If they had been given all the info, it would support the state - which we've already seen happen.

I feel he's done the same thing with the lawyers that were brought in. I don't for a minute believe they've seen all the evidence. I believe by now AF has and DS has got to have a clue by now.

 

[TiaM]

I remember CA saying she still believed Casey was alive WHILE SHE SAT THERE, POST-MEMORIAL, WEARING HER CREMATION JEWELRY. Who did she think the cremation jewelry was "created" from- a stranger? She had dna evidence saying the remains were Caylee, is she so twisted (or such a liar)
that she REALLY believed Caylee was ALIVE??

I am just like... :waitasec: :sick: :hand: :boohoo: :liar: kay:

ya know??

You forget - Caylee's Foundation was raising money to seach for her.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I do remember reading about Cindy sending him off one day to pick out jewelry and we were all wondering jewelry for what... IIRC at the memorial service GA made a comment about having something on his person and Caylee would be with him always...JMHO

I remember this.... and he has a Caylee tattoo on his chest. Cindy has one too.


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[jmfstl]

I haven't read all 129 pages in this sidebar thread but this was posted in the lawyers thread and thought it also belongs here since it is a media perspective to what happened in court on Sat.

http://211.43.148.144/10001/88D02/UNKNOWNLSN_00000051.3gp

 

[logicalgirl]

Ah, thank you. Now as I wipe the noodle juice from my hair. My opinion is that CA HAD to finally acknowledge the smell. She knew someone else, Simon Burch, other than an A knew about it and figured she'd make the call. You don't wait to call 911 when a family member is removed from a pool, blue and not breathing. You also don't wait 31 days, find a vehicle that reeks of death, then wait another 7-8 hours while you try to find the driver of said vehicle that reeks of death. You don't make not one but two calls to 911 and neglect to mention the said vehicle reeks of death.

One does not wait to call 911 for a possible drowning or a vehicle that reeks of death after they have occurred UNLESS you have something to hid.

Yes, I know this has been your belief - about CA and the car. But let's say she did recognize the smell of death? Who did she think was dead? There is no way she would have suspected it was Caylee with the web of lies ICA fed her.
I think she wanted to find ICA and Caylee and wanted to know what the heck kind of trouble had ICA gotten herself into now.

 

[gngr~snap]

I saw that on TV. Way cool. But I am not cool with being underwater, especially for all eternity, so it would not be "for me".

aww... when I dream I can't fly but I CAN breathe under water!
~ just couldn't that one time I almost drowned at Bible camp.. :waitasec:
BUT thye revived me! and I'm still not afraid of the water ~ well the ocean I am a lil... jelly fish but they can't hurt me then so I'm good!:great:

sorry mods... back on topic!:innocent:

IMO Caylee would love it! swimmin in the noodie without her bathing suitie!
but she is in jewelry.. to each his own ..

 

[countzero]

:loser:

When I had some free time today, I went back and read the police/FBI interview of Dominic Casey.

With all we know of how the Anthony family predilection (and Baez!) for taking a small piece of truth, then creating a story with a slight change of characters to suit their needs, I can imagine Kronk being a "stand-in" for Dominic Casey.

Re-read that interview, check the time-line, and join me in being suspicious of the entire lot of them (Baez, Casey, Cindy, and D. Casey).

George is the only one I am willing to cut some slack!

I didn't have a healthy supply of Depends when I read those. :floorlaugh: I learned back then to make sure to limit my intake of caffeine. :great:

 

[gngr~snap]

Ah, thank you. Now as I wipe the noodle juice from my hair. My opinion is that CA HAD to finally acknowledge the smell. She knew someone else, Simon Burch, other than an A knew about it and figured she'd make the call. You don't wait to call 911 when a family member is removed from a pool, blue and not breathing. You also don't wait 31 days, find a vehicle that reeks of death, then wait another 7-8 hours while you try to find the driver of said vehicle that reeks of death. You don't make not one but two calls to 911 and neglect to mention the said vehicle reeks of death.

One does not wait to call 911 for a possible drowning or a vehicle that reeks of death after they have occurred UNLESS you have something to hid.

:banghead:NO the A's only call 911 immediately when protestors are throwing pennies at their garage door...
moo

 

[Tipstaff]

I may be all wet but here goes. Before the opening of court on Sat. the door opened and CM was in the holding cell with ICA. Either CM requested to see her or visa versa. If CM requested to see her, he may have asked her to fire him, since he cannot just leave. If ICA requested to see CM maybe she wants CM to take over lead council. Personally I think it is the former and hopefully tomorrow we will find out WTH went down.

Think CM discussed with ICA the fact the he wanted off the case and only she could make that happen. Perhaps the judge is aware of a health concern, fatigue of CM and didn't object but gave ICA opportunity to consider Masons request. Although I don't know why CM couldn't sit through Saturday court if this was the issue.

:waitasec:

 

[Mare10]

wait now I am all confused, what date was fathers day? B/C I think they had a big fight (CA and Casey) after she got home from her visit to Mt Dora, regarding Casey ripping the GP off, etc So then CA, Casey and Caylee all jump in the pool together that night? Nah... So if the fight happened AFTER they went swimming, how did Cindy manage to remain civil to CA, civil enough to swim w/ her? Cos I can just see her b****ing at CAsey in the pool- Casey would get out of the pool, she wouldnt stay there and listen to her moms bi*****g. Then again, its all about appearances so maybe Cindy chose not to speak to her about it outdoors- the neighbors might hear!

Am I wrong or did'nt something come out (I think Lee said it) about CA and Casey having a HUGE fight Fathers Day evening- and didn't Brian Burner say he heard shouting and lots of the F word?

I seriously have lost the ability to keep up and I thought I had it all straight, but to be honest sometimes I wonder if I didn't have a dream and just incorporated what I thought I knew w/ the dream.

Dunno. I have lost half of my mind thanks to this case. That I DO KNOW.

lol

The way I see it is CA and Caylee come home from Mt. Dora on the 15th. CA takes Caylee for a swim. At some point ICA enters the picture, they are all three there. They take Caylee out of the pool and they all go inside. This is where the fight begins. I think CA brought up this and that and it lead to the big show down. Contrary of what CA testified as the tender moment they all shared. According to what CA told MF no one swam in the pool on Monday, and she noticed the ladder up on Tuesday. CA told her brother Rick that she also reported this to the LE around the 16th of July. I do not know what date she told LE. Does anyone?

 

[bayouland]

:banghead:

When I had some free time today, I went back and read the police/FBI interview of Dominic Casey.

With all we know of how the Anthony family predilection (and Baez!) for taking a small piece of truth, then creating a story with a slight change of characters to suit their needs, I can imagine Kronk being a "stand-in" for Dominic Casey.

Re-read that interview, check the time-line, and join me in being suspicious of the entire lot of them (Baez, Casey, Cindy, and D. Casey).

George is the only one I am willing to cut some slack!

Help! I can't find it!

 

[Tipstaff]

Brilliant point! Maybe LDB needs to point all that out in rebuttal. It would certainly show the jury just how CA lies to fit the story of the day!!

"Story of the Day" perfect description, just perfect.

 

[cluciano63]

Now that the lying has started on the witness stand anyway, I wish one side or the other would mention the fight that supposedly took place on the night of the 15th of June. I think it is important and would allow the jury to see more of the family dynamics. They are only getting bits and pieces, nothing like the real story. But of course none of the A's would tell it like it happened anyway...

 

[Rapunzel]

wait now I am all confused, what date was fathers day? B/C I think they had a big fight (CA and Casey) after she got home from her visit to Mt Dora, regarding Casey ripping the GP off, etc So then CA, Casey and Caylee all jump in the pool together that night? Nah... So if the fight happened AFTER they went swimming, how did Cindy manage to remain civil to CA, civil enough to swim w/ her? Cos I can just see her b****ing at CAsey in the pool- Casey would get out of the pool, she wouldnt stay there and listen to her moms bi*****g. Then again, its all about appearances so maybe Cindy chose not to speak to her about it outdoors- the neighbors might hear!

Am I wrong or did'nt something come out (I think Lee said it) about CA and Casey having a HUGE fight Fathers Day evening- and didn't Brian Burner say he heard shouting and lots of the F word?

I seriously have lost the ability to keep up and I thought I had it all straight, but to be honest sometimes I wonder if I didn't have a dream and just incorporated what I thought I knew w/ the dream.

Dunno. I have lost half of my mind thanks to this case. That I DO KNOW.

lol

Cindy said they watched the video from the nursing home and all cried together...very bonding experience...all the while Cindy said this was going on ICA was texting Tony...like to know how that happened between tears. Of course I guess CA said nothing that night to ICA about stealing from her grandfathers nursing home account....oh brother!!!

 

[TiaM]

By the way, can I just say once again in my mind there is no way, no how LA agreed to testify that his parents thought he was the father of ICA's child, or that he in any way made any kind of sexual advances towards ICA. JB didn't ask him that question because Lee didn't agree to it. I doubt when I actually think about it if Baez even broached the subject. Lee is too much of a wild card to know what Lee's response would be - either in his office or in the courtroom.

No way, no how. And if JB was in collusion with LA, he would have him say he (LA) looked in the trunk of the car when he and ICA were talking in the garage, and it didn't look any different than it always had.

It was GA who identified the stain and the smell of the stain in the trunk of the car. That's enough.

And actually in his testimony, to Lee's credit, he pointed out stains that he thought he remembered from when he owned the Pontiac in the upper left and lower left corners, and the far right lower corner (it was off the screen at that point).

He mentioned in his testimony (JA questioning) that he didn't remember seeing the stain on the spare tire portion of the cover (the center) when he owned it - and he circled it on the screen. JA said "The basketball shaped one?" and Lee said "Yes". That's the exact wording GA used to describe the stain that had the odor.

So in my book, Lee was agreeing with the State about the stains.

 

[AbbieNormal]

:banghead:NO the A's only call 911 immediately when protestors are throwing pennies at their garage door...
moo

Yeah, they made 13 cents that night.

oh, and :bdscroll: gngr~snap.

 

[SevenSeas]

Cindy said they watched the video from the nursing home and all cried together...very bonding experience...all the while Cindy said this was going on ICA was texting Tony...like to know how that happened between tears. Of course I guess CA said nothing that night to ICA about stealing from her grandfathers nursing home account....oh brother!!!

Yes this has been the norm for her... So which one is it Cindy?

 

[Linda7NJ]

There is something strange and hidden in this family. What is it?

I'll tell you what the family secret is...A psychopath was the mother of their only grandchild. Casey ran that household, especially after Caylee was born. She used that child to hold over their heads. They walked on eggshells. They were afraid to say anything much or Casey may leave and take Caylee with her.