2011.06.25 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Twenty-eight)

[rose222]

I don't think the jury appreciates the defense focusing on irrelevant information. During the jury selection the potential jurors were asked whether they could consider mitigating factors during the sentencing phase. I think the potential jurors were hesitant to agree to consider age, sexual abuse etc in deciding whether life in prison or death would be more appropriate. What makes the defense think that the jury is going to consider those factors during the guilt or innocence phase? I think they are annoyed that valuable time is being wasted. They just want the facts.

 

[larryphx]

I wonder if LBD will really let Sindy have it during the rebuttal phase?

 

[Florida Native]

Probably because if she had confessed, Caylee's body might've still have been recovered. And a cause of death could've been established!

I never looked at it like that before. Good point. I just always assumed ICA just thought she was smarter than every one else.

 

[illek46]

Good Morning! :coffee:

Any juror with a lick of common sense will realize there is NO secret and yesterday's testimony by Lee proved it. Why didn't Baez come right out and ask Lee if he molested Casey?

Because he was afraid LA would say "NO".

 

[darnudes]

I do believe LA was supposed to reveal the 'family secret' but couldn't bring himself to do it. I wonder if Mallory had anything to do with that decision. I wonder if she said she would walk if he made the world think he was a molester.

Very good point. I know I would.

 

[ami]

I disagree with your opinion regarding the jurors not expecting a bombshell. I think they were/are. It didn't come.

What would have made them expect a bombshell?

 

[lorann]

I do believe LA was supposed to reveal the 'family secret' but couldn't bring himself to do it. I wonder if Mallory had anything to do with that decision. I wonder if she said she would walk if he made the world think he was a molester.

I am not 100% sure that there is a molested family secret - I do however think that is what JB was trying to get Lee to do. The court already knew that neither George nor Lee was Caylee's father so somebody has to say that there was at least at one point a chance that it could be true. Lee did not go there.

So the DT had yesterday and last night to try and convince George he is the only one left to fall on this sword. I don't think ICA will get the death penalty anyway so whatever George decides won't "save" her life. Just add more dirt and make their lives even more unbearable.

 

[Ricki]

Hi All. Slept a little later today. Things are certainly heating up. I just do not know what to expect anymore. Have a wonderful weekend. Peace

 

[reeseeva]

LA's testimony yesterday meant nothing to me. I couldn't care less when ICA's babyshower occurred, I couldn't care less if he ever looked at Caylee's nursery, and I couldn't care less if LA was hurt about being left out with respect to ICA's pregnancy. NONE of that goes toward helping explain what happened to this precious child. And THAT is all I care about.

But maybe that's just me. Maybe this jury is eating this stuff up. Who knows?

Thank You MK, After taking a break from yesterday, I awoke today, feeling exactly as you so eloquently stated, and a little angry, feeling duped by the inconsequential drama put on by Lee. So What!!

I'm sure this will backfire on them, and the past 2 days have all the hallmarks, of a scheming CA plan. This is how I felt in the beginning of this tragedy, every time CA opened her mouth. Hopefully, the jurors will feel the same, witnessing the contrast from her first testimony.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

If the DT wants to make any inroads with me, these are the things they need to address:

1). Why ICA didn't report her child missing (or accidentally drown) for 31 days.

2). Why, during the time her daughter was missing (or accidentally drown), did ICA compete in hotbody contests and party like there was no tomorrow?

3). Why ICA lied to everyone, including LE, about a kidnapping that never happened. Sexual abuse? Sorry, not going to cut it with me.

4). Why did ICA drive around with the body of her decomposing daughter in the trunk of her car for 3-5 days?

5). How did this child's body end up with duct tape attached anywhere to the head?

So far, the Defence has offered me nothing in the way of explaining those things.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I wonder what happened to the tape on the gas can?

Wonder if Jose has launched an investigation into it's disappearance?

 

[NSS]

what does Casey having been "molested" have anything to do with she murdered her baby or not? It makes no sense to me. I think a majority of criminals were "victims" of abuse at some point in their lives. Doesn't stop the jury from finding them guilty.

As to the theory that Caylee drowned and that Casey was too scared of her abusive father to admit the truth...that makes no sense to a REASONABLE person.

I agree.

The DT claims that GA loved her enough to hide the body.
Loved her enough to pretend to look for a missing child.

and then...... he stopped loving her enough to watch her sit in jail and face death without stepping up and telling of the 'accident'.


They also claim that abuse is the reason that ICA could party hearty, avoid her parents like the plague, get tatoo'd, and invent a kidnapping. This wasn't out of guilt (or lack of) but fear.

and then.... we hear her speak to her family like they are some present that the dog left on the carpet, and watch as they tread on eggshells pleading for info in the imaginanny.


You can play both sides of the coin if you like, but it's not a winning strategy.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I am not 100% sure that there is a molested family secret - I do however think that is what JB was trying to get Lee to do. The court already knew that neither George nor Lee was Caylee's father so somebody has to say that there was at least at one point a chance that it could be true. Lee did not go there.

So the DT had yesterday and last night to try and convince George he is the only one left to fall on this sword. I don't think ICA will get the death penalty anyway so whatever George decides won't "save" her life. Just add more dirt and make their lives even more unbearable.

I don't think the jury has ever been told George was not the father of Caylee according to the DNA comparisons. They were told Lee was not.

 

[Elley Mae]

I hope this is stressed to the jury. *
When Casey was being interviewed by the police officer, he repeated to her that accidents happen, and if this was the case, now was the time to state it, but she did not budge....
I believe this was because what happened was so bad, that NOTHING was worse than the truth. So she had nothing to lose to lie, even poorly; dragging officers to her fake place of employment. It was all done to stall and buy time; focus the search on a fictitious nanny so her daughter's body would have enough time to decompose and destroy the evidence. If Caylee had really drowned, Casey would need her remains to be found to show the evidence of drowning. She knew that what she did was worse than anyone could even conceive and so it made perfect sense to lie and lie, to stall her being found, and so hide the truth forever.

WELCOME Good post :welcome:

 

[ami]

If the DT wants to make any inroads with me, these are the things they need to address:

1). Why ICA didn't report her child missing (or accidentally drown) for 31 days?

2). Why during the time her daughter was missing (or accidentally drown), did ICA compete in hotbody contests and party like there was no tomorrow?

3). Why did ICA lied to everyone, including LE, about a kidnapping that never happened?

4). Why did ICA drive around with the body of her decomposing daughter in the trunk of her car for 3-5 days?

5). How did this child's body end up with duct tape attached anywhere to the head?

So far, the Defence has offered me nothing in the way of explaining those things.

In another thread I typed out a whole post about what it would take for me to feel reasonable doubt, but then I deleted it because I didn't want to give Jose's interns any help. lol

 

[Talina]

:great:

Good Morning Everyone,

The DT is "spinning their wheels" with all the "family drama" and "family shenanigans" that they have played out in Court the past couple of days. I believe the Jury is NOT buying any of it and can clearly see it is a "farce".


I don't know what made me think of this early this morning, but I just had a tought about the GRAND JURY !

The Grand Jury does NOT indict for an ACCIDENT !!

The Grand Jury "Indictment" against ICA was for MURDER !!

The Grand Jury indicted ICA back in October 2008 -- 2 months before Caylee's remains were even found !

So the Grand Jury saw NO evidence of the DUCT TAPE ! The Grand Jury did NOT buy the "Zanny the Nanny" story, the 31 days and the rest of the "fairy tales" ...

This Jury should have no problem handing down a verdict of GUILTY !

:great:

Which makes me so very curious what exactly George Anthony said in his grand jury testimony.

 

[tehcloser]

What would have made them expect a bombshell?

Um, JB's opening statement when he said she was molested by her bro? He was right there, why not ask him? Of course they were expecting a bombshell.

Oh and........GOOD MORNING PEEPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JBounds]

I agree 100% with these two attorneys. The Anthony's are not done yet and ICA WILL walk.

Casey will not walk. Her actions will be taken into consideration and I'm sure the jury understands what is taking place before them. She's going to prison for a long time.

 

[TiaM]

Present and accounted for with my mandible taped to prevent my jaw from dropping during any testimony today.

Cringing, as the DT (and Cindy) still has 5 or so days to work on Lee to get him to say the "Incest" word they tried so hard to pry out of him yesterday.

Will he cave?

 

[jmfstl]

Here is a theory I have and believe me when I say it is only a "theory"

I think ICA went back to the house after GA went to work and got involved on the computer and left the back sliding glass door open. Maybe just maybe the stairs to the pool were up and Caylee climbed up and got in the water. ICA not paying attention then she found her but it was too late. She knew she was going to be with Tony that night and put Caylee in the back of her car too afraid to report it knowing the wrath of her mother. Now as far as the duct tape. I think she did that to keep the fluids from leaking from her body then she had to come up with a plan to get rid of the body.

Please don't kill me here I am only theorizing on this and speculating. I do feel that ICA is 100% responsible for the death of her daughter and should be found guilty of 1st degree murder.