2015.12.01 Sievers' husband hired killers, investigation shows

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IMO, a very important part of the article:

"We only initiate child protection investigations when an allegation is called in to the child abuse hotline," Harrell wrote in an email. "With that being said, anyone can call in a report to the hotline - law enforcement, family members, teachers, doctors, or even concerned neighbors. Once the report is accepted by the hotline, an investigation is initiated with the family."

ETA Dushi, beat me to it!
 
Did the girls ever attend public or private school(s)? TIA
 
You'd think someone who consults with homeland security, would be more aware of
deleted files in a GPS?

Ha! :happydance:

After reading through everything it's pretty clear CWW was either never as brilliant as Skinner believes or years of cooking meth fried his brain.
 
Wow. I haven't finished reading the docs yet, but I'm just so shocked and saddened by all these new details.

Teresa was just a payday for these three losers, a big ol' dollar sign. :furious: All three men were practically destitute, even Mark it appears. CWW needed help buying groceries. Mark "lived month to month and did not have much financial stability". JR was an ex-con with a blue collar job and a baby on the way. All three agreed to steal this amazing woman's life to make their own lives a little more comfortable, rather than working for what they wanted/needed. I'm so disgusted. And Mark is the worst of them. God only knows what he was doing with all the money Teresa was bringing in, he wasn't even paying their taxes. Teresa trusted him to handle the finances, and he abused that trust like woah.

Remember how AmazonRain said that Mark brought up MONEY in every. single. conversation? Red flag.

I actually laughed out loud at some of the mistakes these dunderheads made. Like CWW borrowing a GPS from a friend (JL), telling JL exactly where he's going (Sievers' house), inputting every single address into it, and then leaving it in the rental car. Jimmy even put his email address into it, OMG. CWW has such a big mouth, I'm amazed this is the first murder he's been arrested for. He unnecessarily involves so many people in his crimes! Like the other friend he borrowed Adderall from (RW) -- he also told RW that he was on his way to the Sievers' house. For anyone who hasn't read Ronnie Bolin's thread, CWW involved a lot of people in that crime as well.

I do think CWW is a serial killer. I think he kills anyone he sees as a threat to his freedom (Ronnie, meth lab roommate). Teresa, though, was killed as a favor to his 'brother from another mother'. :furious: I do think he would've killed JR without a second thought if necessary. JR should be thanking his lucky stars he's safe behind bars.

There were some sleuths who theorized that the planning for Teresa's murder might've started around the time of CWW's wedding. Looks like you were right. :(

I wonder how long Mark was planning this, when all those policies were purchased. I also wonder if Teresa was aware of all of the policies. Forging signatures is easy, we see it all the time in cases like this. She may have only been aware of the $2.5M policy Mark told LE about.

Sorry for ranting/rambling. I'm just upset, as we all are. And like everyone here, I'm so concerned about the girls. Putting my faith in SMS that he's got this.

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IMO, a very important part of the article:

"We only initiate child protection investigations when an allegation is called in to the child abuse hotline," Harrell wrote in an email. "With that being said, anyone can call in a report to the hotline - law enforcement, family members, teachers, doctors, or even concerned neighbors. Once the report is accepted by the hotline, an investigation is initiated with the family."

Hi everyone, never posted before, so hope I follow protocol.. Is there a time frame involved as to TS's brother or mother filing a complaint regarding the girls and stating they felt the children were being mentally abused (brain washed)?
 
Hi everyone, never posted before, so hope I follow protocol.. Is there a time frame involved as to TS's brother or mother filing a complaint regarding the girls and stating they felt the children were being mentally abused (brain washed)?
I think they can call to lodge a complaint anytime- anyone can.

Oh, forgive my poor manners- welcome Kelkeen, so glad you decided to join in!!!
 
:)) thank you! I've been 'creeping' nightly since this took place. Not surprised as to current events (at all),, but WOW. Wondering if anyone on here (in Florida) would be willing to call and relay or restate the quote from the brother/mother,, would that constitute legitimate complaint?

I think they can call to lodge a complaint anytime- anyone can.

Oh, forgive my poor manners- welcome Kelkeen, so glad you decided to join in!!!
 
Yeah, I know.
My feeling is that TS was an involved mom and as most involved moms, may have been aware if MS was brainwashing her children
Of course, I am speculating as well

She may have been aware. Sounds like she was spending more time at home and had stepped down from her volunteer responsibilities. If she noticed anything she may have thought he was gearing up for a custody fight.

Idk, guys like MS can be pretty slick. MS is a master manipulator so I would not be shocked if TS was unaware.
 
She may have been aware. Sounds like she was spending more time at home and had stepped down from her volunteer responsibilities. If she noticed anything she may have thought he was gearing up for a custody fight.

Idk, guys like MS can be pretty slick. MS is a master manipulator so I would not be shocked if TS was unaware.

Of course you could be right.
I simply don't know.
I formed that "opinion" on everything I have read about her here at WS.
I get the feeling the family's concerns started AFTER TS was murdered because of the changes they saw at that time.
It appears they never noticed changes in the little ones before that.

I would like to add, with everything the girls have been through and the loss they have suffered, I am not surprised they reacting in a different manner.
Now add to that, MS is restricting access to their loved ones, if in fact that is what he is doing
 
It is a very ugly situation.
The family must be worried for the girls.

Don't think it (BBM) started before the murder
I feel TS would have been more than aware


BBM: IMO It started the day they breathed their first breath. MS is obviously a sociopath, psychopath or some other equally disturbing psychological maniac.

I am speaking from personal experience. It starts out by being the "favorite parent", continues by daily undermining, special secrets "just between us", treats, favors, etc. When he has them thinking he is the best dad EVER, the actual damage begins...lots of "oh silly mommy" comments, then questions meant to instill distrust, implications...those poor messed up kiddos!

By the way, the progression is so slow that the depth of the "brainwashing" is not as apparent as you might think, even to someone as intelligent as TS.

As the spouse, you become numb to so many, many things in a dysfunctional marriage. She worked hard, so maybe she rationalized staying...maybe thought "it isn't that bad" "it's easier to stay than to leave" "it's better the kids have two parents"


BTW: There may be a bit of projecting going on...I am thankful to say that I got out alive.
 
:)) thank you! I've been 'creeping' nightly since this took place. Not surprised as to current events (at all),, but WOW. Wondering if anyone on here (in Florida) would be willing to call and relay or restate the quote from the brother/mother,, would that constitute legitimate complaint?

since DCF is already involved, i would venture a guess that Dr. Siever's family has reached out to them - that being said, anyone at anytime can call and report observed OR suspected child abuse - you can call them and report your concerns
no concerns are deemed illegitmate by DCF
(if they can't be proved they are simply labeled unsubstantiated)

http://www.abc-7.com/story/30643655...uments-unravel-details-of-sievers-murder-case
Officials: DCF involved in Sievers' murder case

We've learned the Department of Children and Families is involved in this case. Teresa and Mark Sievers have two young daughters.

DCF officials said they "are involved with the family and are aware of the newly released documents." DCF told us they do not have any information that can be released.
 
I will say this- if you are a neighbor and have knowledge of anything that you would want DCFS to know if it were your children -then make a call. Better safe than sorry. It is up to DCFS to make a decision in the end but they are obligated to investigate. MOO
 
BBM: IMO It started the day they breathed their first breath. MS is obviously a sociopath, psychopath or some other equally disturbing psychological maniac.

I am speaking from personal experience. It starts out by being the "favorite parent", continues by daily undermining, special secrets "just between us", treats, favors, etc. When he has them thinking he is the best dad EVER, the actual damage begins...lots of "oh silly mommy" comments, then questions meant to instill distrust, implications...those poor messed up kiddos!

By the way, the progression is so slow that the depth of the "brainwashing" is not as apparent as you might think, even to someone as intelligent as TS.

As the spouse, you become numb to so many, many things in a dysfunctional marriage. She worked hard, so maybe she rationalized staying...maybe thought "it isn't that bad" "it's easier to stay than to leave" "it's better the kids have two parents"
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BTW: There may be a bit of projecting going on...I am thankful to say that I got out alive.

This post is brilliant and spot on!
 
So far. The DA may feel that most information on Mark is circumstantial similar to the Casey Anthony case. Same state as well with a possible same gullible jury pool. Lol

Plus his co defendants will be slayed on their past misdeeds to make it seem like they are trying to drag saint mark down to lighten their sentence.

So idk. But I think the DA knows that another female is involved and they are trying to catch all.

Remember. The sheriff said that this could be a movie due to the whole ordeal. Now we already figured the husband once the friends were caught. So it may be more connectivity where 7 people may be arrested for the murder of our beloved doctor.

But I'm thinking if another woman is involved. It may be office related/ affair. Hint: the movie.

But idk. I think CWW may have caught his lady up as well.

So no arrest may mean that others are still out there and they are constantly in contact with mark. Jmo
 
So far. The DA may feel that most information on Mark is circumstantial similar to the Casey Anthony case. Same state as well with a possible same gullible jury pool. Lol

Plus his co defendants will be slayed on their past misdeeds to make it seem like they are trying to drag saint mark down to lighten their sentence.

So idk. But I think the DA knows that another female is involved and they are trying to catch all.

Remember. The sheriff said that this could be a movie due to the whole ordeal. Now we already figured the husband once the friends were caught. So it may be more connectivity where 7 people may be arrested for the murder of our beloved doctor.

But I'm thinking if another woman is involved. It may be office related/ affair. Hint: the movie.

But idk. I think CWW may have caught his lady up as well.

So no arrest may mean that others are still out there and they are constantly in contact with mark. Jmo

Good theory I hadn't considered.

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I'm thinking since JR rolled over so easy with his live-in, when he makes it to Florida, or who knows maybe sooner, them loose lips will talk. JMO
 
Hmmm.... reading the 33 page Investigative report---during interviews with LE in regards to MS last communication with TS, MS states TS texted him that her plane had landed. Someone tell me I'm wrong BUT in forum discussions about that night regarding TS arrival back in Florida, wasn't it stated by her sister that TS phoned MS upon her arrival back in FL????? We here talked about 'that phone call' several times. I always questioned who may have really called MS since no one else there spoke with TS during that call. Lots of info in this case---maybe I'm loosing what mind I have left!

Sorry, don't know how that post below got on here, I can't seem to delete it either. If a Mod can delete it that would be great.
 
I am sure this has been asked and answered many times.
I just don't know the answers..

Who makes the decision to arrest? The DA? or LE?
If someone has been charged with 2nd DM, the charges can be upped to 1st DM?
 
Mark used Teresa's doctor friend, since 1995 to check up on the house and forced him to discover the body.

Mark also used his mothers innocence by telling her to cut off or not worry about the alarm since Teresa was coming home that night.

Mark also used Teresa's family innocence to have them vouch that this trip was legit and it wasn't abnormal for mark to stay behind with the kiddies.

Mark also used Teresa's family to show them that Curtis is a good guy when he asked them if curtis could stay there during the funeral trip.

Mark also used the office lady to start up the go fundme since he probably already knew that Cww botched something and the insurance payout will take a while.

Mark also used and uses his kids to block him away from the police storming the door at anytime.

Mark also used the wedding of his best friend to personally be able to discuss the doings of his personal eternal divorce.


Btw. I'm sure that he used others. But y'all get the point. Marks a user.
 
Could they be waiting for the Grand Jury to convene in order to indict MS on first degree murder charges?
 
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