4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

[Nila Aella]

His cell phone is not among the items listed. So, I wonder where it is?

I was thinking maybe he was carrying it or it was in his pocket, so it was part of the property seized during his arrest and not found during the property search (like on the nightstand)? JMO

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630680254359412738

 

[CLGM]

Doesn't this cover it? (Pg 6)

View attachment 406132

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/02/Kohberger-warrant_Redacted2.pdf

This is the items they had permission to take.

The handwritten list is what they took. But now I see that that list is what was on his person, not what was taken from the house (which likely would have the cell phone listed).

 

[SortaSleuthy]

I sleep with a flashlight in my nightstand in the event something happens in the middle of the night and the power is out.

I also sleep with a flashlight on my nightstand, right next to my 357 Magnum … to help identify the location of the intruder!

 

[al66pine]

Pages 1 & 2 (of 5) pages at link* =
STIPULATION of Parties (meaning Atty's for St of ID and BCK)
They stipulated to a release of a Memo summary of In Chambers conference, Jan 13,which was filed Jan. 20 under seal.
Redactions made from Memo were names of potential witnesses & names of their attys (for threats or danger to their lives or safety).

Then, pages 3 to 5 (of 5 pages) = MEMO itself, a summary of the conference in chambers of Judge Marshall, and naming those attending, which included Prosecutor, Deputy Pros., Atty for Redacted, and a diff Atty for another Redacted, Shanon Gray, Atty for Goncalves fam, and PD Anne Taylor.

At this conference Judge Marshall read aloud:
--from her Nondissemination Order (gag order) and
-- Idaho Rules of Professional Conduct, Rule 3.6, Trial Publicity.**

(Briefly, oversimplified, imo, Rule for atty's involved in investigation & litigation of matter: SU, wait, & say it in court.)

She said she reads Rule & Commentary as applying to atty's for witnesses, & to Pros. & PD.
Advises the atty's present "not to engage in any conduct which would interfere with a fair trial."
Also says her order does not prevent wit's from speaking to media.

imo jmo moo As always, welcoming clarification or corrections, esp'ly from our legal professionals.

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* https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR29-22-2805/022423 Stipulation to Unseal with Redactions.pdf
** https://isb.idaho.gov/wp-content/uploads/irpc.pdf
Rule 3.6, pages 44-45. Relevant quotes in my earlier posts.

 

[LostOldUserName]

Really curious about looking for drug and or prescriptions and alcohol, bullet points 4 and 10. ( if I counted correctly)

 

[crumbcleaner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630664082813534208

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630655625335021578

It seems odd that he was fully dressed with shoes on for it being a middle of the night raid? And with a flashlight and gloves on him…so strange. If I’m interpreting “on his person” correctly.

 

[Gemmie]

It seems odd that he was fully dressed with shoes on for it being a middle of the night raid? And with a flashlight and gloves on him…so strange. If I’m interpreting “on his person” correctly.

It doesn't seem odd to me. There's been plenty of talk here about his sleeping patterns, or lack thereof. And 4am-ish is also the time the crimes were committed.

And I apologize for this quote being from the DM:

Kohberger's unidentified downstairs neighbor echoed his strange late-night behaviors <snip>

she always heard Kohberger up late at night since he moved into the complex in August.

'He’s normally a very late-night person, going to the bathroom and vacuuming at 1 or 12 in the morning,' she said.

Idaho 'murderer' neighbors reveal his late-night behavior

Ben Roberts (left) said his former classmate Bryan Kohberger (inset) started showing up to college 'really tired' after the Idaho murders, while neighbors of the suspect said he 'never slept.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[isabella88]

Is that what Entin says? Killer-groupies? But BK has not been trialed yet nor found guilty.
I consider the word killer premature. BK is merely the accused.

IDK about that specific terminology about groupies, but ... Lots of people on that sub did not consider the word "killer" premature even though it was a pro-BK sub. Rather, much of the "content" on the sub came from people praising and/or defending him as the killer.

Forgive me if I am waaaayyyy behind. Trying to catch up.

 

[isabella88]

It doesn't seem odd to me. There's been plenty of talk here about his sleeping patterns, or lack thereof. And 4am-ish is also the time the crimes were committed.

Agreed. But still strange that he had that flashlight on him at his parents' house. Makes me think that he may have been attempting to "be prepared" in case LE came from him. My darker thoughts make me wonder if he was staking out another person in PA.

Regardless, "Defiant" is a hell of a name for the flashlight he had on his person at that late hour. As a writer, that just floors me. Couldn't have written that. What a crazy detail.

 

[isabella88]

How can a person function with so little sleep?

Mental illness. Certain drugs. Insomnia.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Agreed. But still strange that he had that flashlight on him at his parents' house. Makes me think that he may have been attempting to "be prepared" in case LE came from him. My darker thoughts make me wonder if he was staking out another person in PA.

Regardless, "Defiant" is a hell of a name for the flashlight he had on his person at that late hour. As a writer, that just floors me. Couldn't have written that. What a crazy detail.

Maybe he wears it around his neck. Quite handy for entering a house in the dark of night, all dressed in black & committing four murders.
JMO

 

[isabella88]

Maybe he wears it around his neck. Quite handy for entering a house in the dark of night, all dressed in black & committing four murders.
JMO

Quite possible! I did a quick Googe shopping search for "defiant silver flashlight" and it showed all types of flashlights. The possibility of a flashlight as a weapon crossed my mind but why would a knife guy switch it up? All of this is so crazy. And ... JMO

 

[passionflower]

Court tv just announced the docket small hearing for a week June 24,2023 on a Saturday

 

[CSIDreamer]

When SWAT enters a house do they turn off the electricity? I was wondering if he needed the flashlight to get dressed. JMO

 

[isabella88]

When SWAT enters a house do they turn off the electricity? I was wondering if he needed the flashlight to get dressed. JMO

Evidently, it happens: Electricity cut to house in Coventry surrounded by SWAT team

Quote from article:
As the standoff continued and darkness fell, the police allowed a National Grid truck onto Raccoon Run Road, apparently to cut the electricity to a house where the man was located.

 

[Nova]

One Defiant silver flashlight....

Am I the only one who feels an elementary school riddle coming on:

"Why was the silver flashlight defiant?"

"Because it was out of batteries."

 

[U.N. Known]

Perhaps the 2 redacted names are the 2 surviving roomates.

 

[Nova]

The Nikes were size 13. That is a BIG shoe and not that common. If the "Van's style" shoe print could be show to also be a size 13 it includes BK as the possible leaver of the shoe print. Also, a size 13 is sometimes hard to find. One might be able to trace size 13 shoes purchased and if the person did not pay cash, you might get a hit that BK owned a pair. MOO and speculation.

As a male who wears size 13 shoes, I can affirm everything Ghostwheel says. As a kid, I knew exactly which shoe stores carried 13s. There were only one or two in my hometown; I usually went in and said, "Show me what you have in size 13." There was no point in selecting shoes without first knowing whether they had my size.

I am just under 6'3".

 

[U.N. Known]

There are six names redacted--3 attorneys and their 3 clients. My first thought was that the names are the families who haven't been vocal. However, the attorney who is quoted later says he expects that his client will be a witness and that he expects "the decedents families" will be witnesses, so clearly he isn't an attorney for one of the families. D.M.s full name is too long to fit into the redacted blank, at least for that attorney.