Yep. Unless they changed something, it was very dark even at the front door. In the video of the officer responding to an evening noise complaint call, even with his flashlight, it wasn't very well lit.
Excellent! Thank you for researching and posting all this information on the warrants and their dates. Very Interesting!
It's probably a combination of things - the house being set back from the road, into a hillside, overshadowed by large trees. Street lights probably don't reach it very well. (Which may be a reason it was appealing as a target to a stalker/killer.) I know people talked early on in the threads about the way sound moved in the area, that it was in a hollow; I think it's kind of an unintentional amphitheatre, a combination of natural land formation and buildings. I used to live in a remote village, small population, no noise pollution. Our cottage was in a little hollow like that. We could hear conversations of people sitting outside at the pub - about 100 metres away - from our bathroom.
Brilliant! I hadn't thought of looking back at the PCA and cross checking. MOO
The AT&T warrants tell you what/who and I verified they to tie back to the PCA. The docs are in reverse order, so looking at the most recent doesn't tell as much imo.
you're welcome! the dates requested, scope and dates of the warrants themselves tell a story. of course, without the affidavits, we can't tell why the warrant was requested/authorized, but we can put together a timeline for when LE found info. The DoorDash and tinder was surprising to me, ditto so many financial accounts, all the same institutions for each party. imo jmo ime that's a lot of questions.
@schooling, do you know where the visit/interview with Nancy Grace is linked? I'm interested in revisiting the camera location and what those neighbours said. I saw at least two camera on the the outside of the relevant neighbours' house.Still looking for a photo of the second/more elevated camera and would like to revisit the MS<M article/interview Thank you!
Sorry to be nitpicky but you know how it is! Actually, Payne arrived to assist. I understand what you mean but just so people don't kinda misread and think something like -'LE didn't arrive (at all) until 4pm etc and so forth (which became an issue for a time in a previous thread) MOO. I just wanted to point out that LE did arrive on the scene well before 4pm. I agree, otherwise, with the point you're making here!
Yes, that's what I was thinking too. The warrants issued and returned on 23rd December 2022 as per PCA. I haven't checked the dates of the ATT warrants yet but that's what I would expect. Either way, those warrants will be in there somewhere! MOO
Thank you! In the picture you attach, yes that is the location of the second camera that I have seen in close up, definately, in a photo either in a post here or somewhere in media thread. I am looking for the photo. Your attached photo also shows a good perspective of the location of relevant neighbour's house (location as described in PCA) in relation to the West Wall of the King St residence/XK's room. MOO
It hasn’t been verified or denied; but BK only arrived in July so 4 mos earlier.
Re bolded. The characterisation of DD warrant as broad, it fits in some contexts I think (at least dates I think) but not in others (ie specific to King St. house). MOO. It asked for specific info and covered all drivers as per that specific info.
Even if he had been, the warrant would have just been for BK, not all the people who delivered there and all the details about that including communication. To get that warrant, there had to be probable cause.
I also remembered, early on, a much closer and clearer picture of the circled spot on that house. I think a couple of police were standing close by in it? I too have been looking for it but this is the only one I can find now.
I do too, plus the victims, and their families - in fact, for absolutely everyone except the killer.
replying to my own post to add:Even if he had been, the warrant would have just been for BK, not all the people who delivered there and all the details about that including communication. To get that warrant, there had to be probable cause.
editing to add Idaho Criminal Rule 41. Search and Seizure
I.C.R. 41. Search and Seizure. | Supreme Court
isc.idaho.gov
I have spent a lot of time looking for a second camera at 1112 King because of the "less than 50 feet" distance mentioned in the PCA, but I'm beginning to think there never was a second camera. Even if there was at one time, it seems like LE took the kid's front door, lightbulb camera when they collected the security footage of that night. It disappeared soon after the murders and is not seen in any later pictures, so I would guess that if they took the lightbulb camera, they took the second camera at the same time, if it even existed. I don't know, but I've decided that the search is probably in vain.
Maybe. I'm really not sure why, just that something feels off. Edited a couple of times to delete and rephrase.
There's a pic of the neighbors' camera in this article. I tried to upload it here but it says the file is too large.
www.uiargonaut.com
