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Scouting dump sites?He was driving more than 40 miles per night, so he was doing more than just driving around campus.
Scouting dump sites?He was driving more than 40 miles per night, so he was doing more than just driving around campus.
'Scouting dump sites?
Pullman and Moscow are only 9.3 miles apart.Yah, that's enough mileage to go back and forth to Moscow.
It probably does. I've read some writings by people with VSS and the way they describe it, the "snow" really does look as if it's coming down in between the eye and whatever one is looking at. Just like real snow. So, for Kohberger, driving is always like driving in a snowstorm. Some report that the snow is sometimes lighter than other times.
He may have learned to cope with this by following whatever is in front of him. I assume the trucks were in the truck lane or at least one of two slow lanes. Trucks are big and easy to follow. They don't make sudden lane changes (usually).
But to impatient Kohberger, they also need to go faster. Trucks do slow down on hills (even slight ones) if they are carrying cargo. Then they go faster on the downhill. This is why most sedan drivers do not like following them closely. If Kohberger was tailgating in order to send the eternal message of the road (GO FASTER!), it was socially unaware to do so to...a big truck.
I've also thought about how a big truck followed closely fills the entire visual field (one cannot see around the big truck and if that truck slams into something, there will be no warning). VERY unsafe. Quite nice of those officers not to ticket him, IMO. (I do believe there's something else going on in this story, but I don't know exactly what).
I am not sure that he still has visual snow now. He posted about it, if he did, a long time ago. Do we know that he still has it? He might simply be a klutzy driver.
But those are not equivalent comparisons. We have absolutely 0 evidence to support any of those sight seeing trips. Literally none.Or he was taking trips to see Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, San. Francisco, etc whenever he had a couple of days off And racking up the mileage that way. Since he was from the North East part of the countries it’s entirely possible he wanted to see the west coast while he was in WA.
edited to add, or maybe he wanted to visit all his favorite serial killer sites, Washington had a lot of them and California as well.
Right, like I said, plenty of miles to drive all over Moscow and find alternative routes back.Pullman and Moscow are only 9.3 miles apart.
Good points.Do we know he ever had it? Eary on, someone came up with something they felt was an old email address belonging to BK and came up the old posts in a discussion group. The poster seemed to be the right age and it was eventually accepted as fact with no confirmation that I'm aware of that came from family or close friends.
It may very well have been him but I'm also reminded of an old phrase, 'so much cooler online.'
It's gone beyond just "someone". Multiple legitimate outlets independently (non AP) reported on it. Including the NYTimes who spoke to friends and reported...Do we know he ever had it? Eary on, someone came up with something they felt was an old email address belonging to BK and came up the old posts in a discussion group. The poster seemed to be the right age and it was eventually accepted as fact with no confirmation that I'm aware of that came from family or close friends.
It may very well have been him but I'm also reminded of an old phrase, 'so much cooler online.'
To which the Idahostatesman (off the back of the NYTimes) also spoke to ThomasThomas Arntz, a former high school friend of Kohberger's, told The New York Times that Kohberger frequently talked about issues with his vision.
"I know it was something that really bugged him," Arntz told the outlet. "He was basically to the point where he was neurotic about it."
“He would talk about it, like, all the time,” Thomas Arntz, a former friend of Koberger’s in high school, told the Idaho Statesman in a phone interview. “The word that comes to mind is that he was neurotic about it, and talked about it relentlessly. I guess it truly bothered him to no end.”
Do we know he ever had it? Eary on, someone came up with something they felt was an old email address belonging to BK and came up the old posts in a discussion group. The poster seemed to be the right age and it was eventually accepted as fact with no confirmation that I'm aware of that came from family or close friends.
It may very well have been him but I'm also reminded of an old phrase, 'so much cooler online.'
It's gone beyond just "someone". Multiple legitimate outlets independently (non AP) reported on it. Including the NYTimes who spoke to friends and reported...
To which the Idahostatesman (off the back of the NYTimes) also spoke to Thomas
Added to that list is NBC News via the Dateline episode "The Killings on King Road" and ABC News in their "The King Road Killings" series where they explicitly link his SoundCloud and Tapatalk accounts and mention that the accounts were confirmed by ABC News to be Bryan's.
If you're waiting for his family member and/or friend to explicitly confirm the accounts themselves as belonging to BK. You're probably going to be waiting for a long time. How many people share accounts like these with families and friends? Accounts that confess that they feel absolutely nothing for them... They don't. Which is why sites like Reddit have the concept of 'Throwaway' accounts where you can afford to be more honest.
Edit: Just being mindful of @North_Idaho_Nony excellent post. Which I didn't see until after I posted mine. I'm not arguing that BK definitely had VSS. I'm just making the argument that it's most likely his account.
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I was thinking maybe he got interested in the In Cold Blood story. Same overall MO (enter house of strangers, kill everyone).
It's a case that most criminologists study and find useful - because the two people who committed that crime almost got away with it. Fix a couple of errors and...the perfect crime?? I think that was part of his motivation. Like a quest. Probably not consciously aware that he was actually going to commit a crime, most of the time, but constantly thinking and getting very amped up about a potentially perfect crime (I keep in mind that this is a person whose writings complain of feeling nothing, inability to feel).
It's also a crime that changed American history (like Ted Bundy, like the Oklahoma City Bombings, like 9/11). I know the Cold Blood case doesn't seem remarkable or huge now, in 2023, but it sure was big back in 1959 (IIRC) and became even bigger after the book was written. It was probably the most famous crime in American history at that time - this was before the Manson Family.
IMO.
But those are not equivalent comparisons. We have absolutely 0 evidence to support any of those sight seeing trips. Literally none.
On the other hand we know...
- BK went to school in Pullman
- BK like other college students may have done a pre-application visit to tour the campus
- UofW, like other colleges/universities commonly have student out to visit prior to their first day
- Dateline heavily speculated that he may have made the visit prior to moving
- The mileage in his CARFAX supports cross country trips
A lot of the theories I've seen supporting BK are being presented based on no evidence. The defense hasn't even provided any beyond "he likes to drive at night" which leaves all of North and South America as potential places of travel. So if SF and Portand...why not Mexico and Argentina via the Pan-American highway?
Your question made me curious so off I went to do some research. VSS is rare, affecting around 2% of the population. Some people are born with it, God bless them, but head trauma, a really severe infection or illness, and illegal drug use are also triggers for VSS. It does not go away on its own and is also unlikely to improve without treatment, although sufferers may become better able to cope with the symptoms over time.I am not sure that he still has visual snow now. He posted about it, if he did, a long time ago. Do we know that he still has it? He might simply be a klutzy driver.
Your question made me curious so off I went to do some research. VSS is rare, affecting around 2% of the population. Some people are born with it, God bless them, but head trauma, a really severe infection or illness, and illegal drug use are also triggers for VSS. It does not go away on its own and is also unlikely to improve without treatment, although sufferers may become better able to cope with the symptoms over time.
One source I found said treatments for it are generally either antiepileptics or antidepressants but Mayo Clinic said it can't be treated, and they offer visual therapy and some kind of filter therapy to help people read and otherwise function with it. Cleveland Clinic also said there is no standard treatment for it but some medications are being researched. One medication being tested is an anti-seizure drug and antidepressants are often prescribed to treat mental health affects of having the disease.
What Is Visual Snow, and Does It Go Away? – NVISION Eye Centers
Visual snow can be debilitating. It is a neurological disorder that is characterized by flickering dots and disturbances that can take up the entire visual field. Visual snow may be treated with medications.www.nvisioncenters.comVisual Snow FAQ - Matthewrenze
On Feb 7, 2014, I went to sleep with a mild headache but otherwise was in good health. When I woke up the next day, I experienced a series of strange visual, auditory, and tactile symptoms that I later learned were called Visual Snow Syndrome. I spent several months going from doctor to doctor...matthewrenze.comMayo Clinic Minute: Visual snow - Mayo Clinic News Network
Visual snow, or visual static, is an uncommon neurological condition that affects around 2% of the population.newsnetwork.mayoclinic.orgVisual Snow Syndrome (Static Vision)
With visual snow syndrome, you see static whether your eyes are open or shut. Learn more about what it's like looking through a shaken snow globe.my.clevelandclinic.org
MOO as a teen he came up with visual snow to excuse his staring at women. MOO the VS is BS.Do we know he ever had it? Eary on, someone came up with something they felt was an old email address belonging to BK and came up the old posts in a discussion group. The poster seemed to be the right age and it was eventually accepted as fact with no confirmation that I'm aware of that came from family or close friends.
It may very well have been him but I'm also reminded of an old phrase, 'so much cooler online.'
Very well could be Boxer. I put nothing past BK. If you've read the 'supposed' posts by him, he's arrogant and argumentative even then. He needs to be the smartest person wherever he is, no matter the situation.MOO as a teen he came up with cisula snow to excise his staring at women. MOO the VS is BS.
I was offering another explanation of his mileage besides the person I replied to saying ’He was driving more than 40 miles per night, so he was doing more than just driving around campus.’ We really have no evidence of how he put the mileage on his car that I know of.But those are not equivalent comparisons. We have absolutely 0 evidence to support any of those sight seeing trips. Literally none.
On the other hand we know...
- BK went to school in Pullman
- BK like other college students may have done a pre-application visit to tour the campus
- UofW, like other colleges/universities commonly have student out to visit prior to their first day
- Dateline heavily speculated that he may have made the visit prior to moving
- The mileage in his CARFAX supports cross country trips
A lot of the theories I've seen supporting BK are being presented based on no evidence. The defense hasn't even provided any beyond "he likes to drive at night" which leaves all of North and South America as potential places of travel. So if SF and Portand...why not Mexico and Argentina via the Pan-American highway?