4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #96

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Lighting also affects how dark his eyebrows appear in photos, which can either add or subtract from an impression of bushiness.
I'm just curious... so more direct lighting would make his eyebrows... do what in your opinion? Be more or less prominent? Sincerely curious what your opinion is about that since you brought it up.
 
I'm just curious... so more direct lighting would make his eyebrows... do what in your opinion? Be more or less prominent? Sincerely curious what your opinion is about that since you brought it up.
Side lighting is used in photography to create drama. In his earlier photo, you can see the light source is coming from the upper right because there are shadows extending to the lower left under his chin and nose. His eye sockets are dark, his bump nose is pronounced, and his features are sharp. It looks like there is some lens distortion that happens when the camera is too close to the face--making his bump nose seem even larger and the other parts of his face smaller than they might be in reality.

In the new photo, the lighting is more even and diffused, which tends to soften his features a bit. He still has the bump nose, but the photo doesn't look as moody or intense. His eye sockets don't look like he might be a descendant of Vlad Dracule.

It could very well be that the new jail has a better camera setup than the old.

MOO
 
I'm just curious... so more direct lighting would make his eyebrows... do what in your opinion? Be more or less prominent? Sincerely curious what your opinion is about that since you brought it up.

Direct lighting, as opposed to overhead lighting has a strong tendency to make eyebrows look lighter. I remember during Covid lockdown and the rise of Zoom calls this was discussed a lot when people were using their desk lamps to illuminate their faces. Then rings lights became popular. Ring lights don't effect the eyebrows' appearance as much, but I'm pretty sure that Ada County isn't using one of those for their mug shots anyway. I suspect their mugshot photo setup is lot more like what you get at the DMV.

Even with the direct front light source, you can see his eyes are more deep set than usual. Overhead lighting also further deepens the appearance of the eye sockets and emphasizes the brow ridge. Brows appear dark or even darker with an overhead light source.

Do I think he has bushy eyebrows naturally? I think he has thick eyebrows and I think seeing his eyes and brows in isolation in the dark would definitely heighten their appearance. Do I think his defense team groomed his eyebrows before his first court appearance? Probably. Do I think he is allowed to have the tools to keep up that grooming on his brows when there aren't court dates--no. He had no way of knowing when he was going to be transferred to Ada County--if his defense team was worried about making sure his Ada mugshot would be non threatening they would have made sure he had the chance to shave as well.
 
AT will be requesting sealed hearings again in the near future, no doubt.

"The State believes there may be certain evidentiary hearings, for example if the state files 404b notices or motions in limine relating to the evidence, some of that information might be extremely prejudicial [to Kohberger] and the State would agree to seal hearings where prejudicial information is going to come out in that hearing."

07:01:49
 
I don't think the headline using the word "demands" is in a quote from BK. I think it's click bait written by the media source.
MOO
Agree. If you read the whole article, the defense attorneys requested to remove media from the courtroom as the judge's rules were violated, they said, in relation to the media's filming of the courtroom proceedings, including how they focused their filming on their client.
 
AT will be requesting sealed hearings again in the near future, no doubt.

"The State believes there may be certain evidentiary hearings, for example if the state files 404b notices or motions in limine relating to the evidence, some of that information might be extremely prejudicial [to Kohberger] and the State would agree to seal hearings where prejudicial information is going to come out in that hearing."

07:01:49

Prejudicial information/evidence should be kept private but not all of this type of evidence gets kept from the jury.

The defense can hide all they want but they cannot keep out all the prejudicial evidence that the jury will consider.

Two examples of prejudicial evidence are crime scene photos and DM's.

Usually, with photos, the judge will allow some but toss out others.

If true that BK used a DM to say "hi" to a victim and she ignored it and he left it at that, that could be prejudicial for the jury to see.

Clarity:

BK moves to Pullman then sends 100's of one-time DM's to area students just to say "hi."

BK sends several DM's to one victim.

2 Cents
 
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Direct lighting, as opposed to overhead lighting has a strong tendency to make eyebrows look lighter. I remember during Covid lockdown and the rise of Zoom calls this was discussed a lot when people were using their desk lamps to illuminate their faces. Then rings lights became popular. Ring lights don't effect the eyebrows' appearance as much, but I'm pretty sure that Ada County isn't using one of those for their mug shots anyway. I suspect their mugshot photo setup is lot more like what you get at the DMV.

Even with the direct front light source, you can see his eyes are more deep set than usual. Overhead lighting also further deepens the appearance of the eye sockets and emphasizes the brow ridge. Brows appear dark or even darker with an overhead light source.

Do I think he has bushy eyebrows naturally? I think he has thick eyebrows and I think seeing his eyes and brows in isolation in the dark would definitely heighten their appearance. Do I think his defense team groomed his eyebrows before his first court appearance? Probably. Do I think he is allowed to have the tools to keep up that grooming on his brows when there aren't court dates--no. He had no way of knowing when he was going to be transferred to Ada County--if his defense team was worried about making sure his Ada mugshot would be non threatening they would have made sure he had the chance to shave as well.

Quite interesting, thank you.

I agree about the lighting being the determining factor regarding his appearance between mug shot one and mug shot two.

I do feel though that he’s had a bit of a “glow-up,” in some subtle way. In court the lighting will be the same every day, so perhaps his team did in fact just smooth what edges they could.

However, I was surprised they didn’t have him clean-shaven for the newer mug shot.

JMO
 
Potential is the key.
After a finding a direction basically elimination is the next step until they get an exact match.
MOao GSK is the text book.
Once they've identified their suspect through Genetic Genealogy, they then confirm the DNA match by obtaining a fresh sample from the suspect- whether by cheek swab, or obtaining a cigarette butt, or an item they used for eating or drinking off of.
 
@AllisonMartTV

New mugshot for Bryan Kohberger, who is waking up in the Ada County Jail in Boise this morning. Kohberger is accused of killing Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. His trial is set to take place in June.
@kxly4news

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Is it only my impression
that the defendant looks surprisingly
.... Ummm....
"well" comparing to the first one?

Is there even a ghost of a smile there? :oops:

I compare him to RA,
(defendant in Delphi case),
and they are like day and night.

JMO

He looks like he's reverse aging. I think jail agrees with him. Let's hope he stays incarcerated forever. Imo.
 

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