Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #191

[Ravenmoon]

DBM

 

[mrjitty]

I strongly believe most of us here want a fair trial, and only if the prosecution can prove RA’s guilt to a jury BARD, should he then be convicted.

I initially felt the PCA was weak, and the bullet evidence and the witnesses would be heavily disputed at trial.

Ironically, it’s been the defense’s unusual approach that has strengthened my belief that the prosecution’s evidence against RA will be mighty and powerful at trial.

jmo

one feels the defence need a new strategy in any event. if their own witnesses take the stand and say they have no evidence against the alternate odinist suspects RA will likely be found guilty in a straight up comparison IMO as there is evidence against him.

perhaps they will focus on generic SODDI?

MOO.

 

[Salah11]

one feels the defence need a new strategy in any event. if their own witnesses take the stand and say they have no evidence against the alternate odinist suspects RA will likely be found guilty in a straight up comparison IMO as there is evidence against him.

perhaps they will focus on generic SODDI?

MOO.

Yep but any new line of defense if the Odins did it is thrown out will delay them again IMO

 

[MiniMoo]

You girls amaze me with your quickness in finding documents. Thank you both so much. You are correct in what I was referring to. I had forgotten the confession to the first sister, in hindsight I wonder if the call to LE on the 14th had been returned to her, would it have made a difference?

So, the one sister that was told on the 14th of February, 2017, definitely tried to call LE - is that correct? And this was confirmed.

 

[katydid23]

Yep but any new line of defense if the Odins did it is thrown out will delay them again IMO

they'd have to ask for a postponement though, I think?

 

[grannygates]

So, the one sister that was told on the 14th of February, 2017, definitely tried to call LE - is that correct? And this was confirmed.

This is the explanation of events given in the FM. I’m not sure if the state has provided this original tip sheet from the in-person meeting and unknown if this interview would be one of the erased videos. (If anyone knows, please tell me!) I screenshotted because it’s a lot to try to retype lol

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[MiniMoo]

This is the explanation of events given in the FM. I’m not sure if the state has provided this original tip sheet from the in-person meeting and unknown if this interview would be one of the erased videos. (If anyone knows, please tell me!) I screenshotted because it’s a lot to try to retype lol
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Is this the same woman that is on meds?

Am not saying this is the case, but certain antianxiety and antidepressant medications can alter polygraph tests.

Let me see if I can find something...

Polygraph Exam : Scheinerlaw.

"Other medication such as antianxiety medication and antidepressants can also affect the exam as it reduces anxiety and alter physiological responses."

Should be alters I think.

In the document it has that she went 2-3 weeks after her brother brought it up which wasn't too long after, but not straight away either. After that - it took the LE a long time to follow up on that at all.

Now I know when she approached them which is what I wanted to know. Thanks!

 

[mrjitty]

Yep but any new line of defense if the Odins did it is thrown out will delay them again IMO

Hard to know what they've been spending their time on I guess. Like do they have a medical expert on psychosis from a timely consultation in '23 or did they miss the boat on it? If they did, now what?

But it is odd that a year after Franks, they had nothing.

I think Gull probably will do them a favour here. They'd be better off focussing on KAK, the phone in the middle of the night, multiple killers, defective investigation etc

MOO

 

[susane7]

Was it not claimed he suffered with Depression for half his life?

So LE can not be blamed for his poor mental health. He had it way it before he brutally murdered two innocent children on an afternoon walk and LE came knocking.

IMO

Yes, I think Dr. Wala said that according and to MS in 2019 he admitted himself in a mental health institution. I am wondering if was after or before the press conference.

Yesterday in my country in a public place in nature, where people camp, have picnis, etc, and where a lot of people were, a man spotted 2 girls, managed to isolate them, apparently he tried to rape them and they resisted, so he tied them and shot them - one in the back (she is in a critic condition in a hospital) and the other in a hand (I think he wanted to shot in another spot but the bullet went to the hand). 0 connection between the victims and the guy. The man acted alone and is 74 years old and the girls 22 and 17 years old. He tried to escape through the water but was caught.So imagine a younger guy in a more isolated place with a gun and two children like in Delphi. With some differences of course but the case reminded me of Delphi. It's absolutely possible a guy alone to control 2 girls or children or even adults with a gun. These crimes in trails/nature are almost always a guy alone with sick fantasies and random victims.

 

[MiniMoo]

TRANSCRIPT INFORMATION

For the 3 Day Hearing it took 21 hours and there is about 750 pages approximately.

It is not automatically transcribed.

It is $5.75 per page for the first print so is estimated to cost about $4,312.50 and will take 4-6 weeks for it to be fully transcribed as any appellate cases will take priority.

Every print after that will be set at $1 per page so about $750, however, as it is an estimate the cost could change due to the number of pages which could be less than 750 or more.

In addition, after it is transcribed it isn't emailed it has to be picked up from the courthouse.

No one has requested the Hearing to be transcribed as yet. Eg Attorneys.

 

[statt#1]

Maybe he left his cell phone at home that day?

Or....maybe he used a burner phone, or somebody else's phone.

Come to think of it, using somebody else's phone would throw an interesting curve ball to investigators now wouldn't it?