Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #195

[Niner]

09/04/2024

Order Issued Defendant appears with Attorneys Bradley Rozzi and Jennifer Auger. State appears by Prosecuting Attorney Nicholas McLeland and Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Stacey Diener. Closed status hearing conducted and concluded. Judicial Officer: Gull, Frances -SJ Noticed: McLeland, Nicholas Charles Noticed: Baldwin, Andrew Joseph Noticed: Rozzi, Bradley Anthony Noticed: Luttrull, James David JR Noticed: Diener, Stacey Lynn Noticed: Auger, Jennifer Jones Order Signed

So... they had a hearing today??!!

 

[TTF14]

So... they had a hearing today??!!

No, she's just updating the record late.

 

[sunshineray]

So... they had a hearing today??!!

Yep, a closed hearing and RA was present. That was kept hush-hush wasn't it!

 

[Niner]

No, she's just updating the record late.

Oh shoot... here I thought I could shorten my notes up a bit. And Thanks!

 

[Niner]

Yep, a closed hearing and RA was present. That was kept hush-hush wasn't it!

yes or no @TTF14 ??

 

[Niner]

yes or no @TTF14 ??

okay - never mind I read that post by sunshineray wrong...

 

[sunshineray]

No, she's just updating the record late.

It's dated today and says he appears.

"Defendant appears with Attorneys Bradley Rozzi and Jennifer Auger. State appears by Prosecuting Attorney Nicholas McLeland and Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Stacey Diener. Closed status hearing conducted and concluded"

 

[tlcya]

It will be interesting to see where the DT goes from here.

Search Warrant stands.
Confessions are in.
SODDI (Odinism Theory) is out.

What’s next?

that whole basket full of eggs DT has been trying to sell has just been scrambled. Now what? I am very curious to see if there is or ever was a plan B. I feel they overplayed plan A to the point where plan B better be a darn good one.

 

[Salah11]

I am so happy for this massive step forward. Here’s a massive step closer to justice for Libby and Abby.

It shows you how poor RA’s lawyers have been so far that they are sinking their client before getting to trial

A shame they were reinstated as he likely stood a better chance without them.

MOO

 

[pseudo_hum]

IMO, they will try again to get the judge thrown off the trial. They seem to like that option.

 

[Tealgrove]

that whole basket full of eggs DT has been trying to sell has just been scrambled. Now what? I am very curious to see if there is or ever was a plan B. I feel they overplayed plan A to the point where plan B better be a darn good one.

I agree. It seems they were hanging their hat on the whole Odinism angle.

They were like a pitbull with a bone as they wouldn’t give up.

TBH I don’t think they have a Plan B.

I guess we shall find out soon enough.

I expect either a continuance to regroup or a change of plea.

MOO

 

[Salah11]

IMO, they will try again to get the judge thrown off the trial. They seem to like that option.

It won’t work as they have tried before and failed.

 

[ClearAhead]

Delphi suspect's defense thrown into chaos as judge blocks 'cult ritual' theory

THE judge in Delphi suspect Richard Allen’s murder trial has banned his attorneys from using a bizarre cult ritual theory as a defense. Former attorneys of Allen, 51, defended their client by…

www.the-sun.com

 

[mrjitty]

I am surprised KAK wasn't allowed, but the Judge does have a lot of discretion in this.

 

[iamshadow21]

that whole basket full of eggs DT has been trying to sell has just been scrambled. Now what? I am very curious to see if there is or ever was a plan B. I feel they overplayed plan A to the point where plan B better be a darn good one.

I'd honestly be surprised if they did have a plan B. They have been throwing everything at this wild, pretrial offensive with conspiracies and Odinism and ritual killing, so many motions, for months and months and months, and I have been wondering, since the first Franks dropped and every shoe that's dropped since then - when are they actually devoting time preparing for trial? They can't keep this up forever, at some point, there will be a trial (unless the defendant takes a plea), and are they actually ready? Have they prepared a strategy that they can present in front of a jury?

I know how I feel about RA's guilt or innocence, but that is a completely separate issue to how I feel about his right to a competent defense. He has these defenders who just spent all this time betting on getting the case thrown out on a technicality, or derailed by bamboozling the jury with stories of sacrifices and cult ritual.

And so I wonder, for the sake of the defendant getting a fair trial with competent, vigorous defense - what IS plan B?

MOO

 

[Salah11]

Basically, the defence have nothing now, as they were like a dog with a bone with the "Odins did it". So now, there are no Odins, RL or Klines.

What a fantastic day it is towards justice

 

[ClearAhead]

I am surprised KAK wasn't allowed, but the Judge does have a lot of discretion in this.

I think he had a alibi for the time of the crime as well?

 

[iamshadow21]

Now that the judge has declared the defendant is not allowed present a defense, how long will the trial last? 2 days?

IMO MOO

A good defense always has multiple contingency plans for trial.

If RA's team are worth anything as lawyers, they will have a plan B. They would have known that their first approach was risky and unlikely to make it to the court room, and should have planned an alternative.

MOO

 

[Salah11]

Now that the judge has declared the defendant is not allowed present a defense, how long will the trial last? 2 days?

IMO MOO

Don’t blame the judge for them being awful lawyers and not having any proof of what they were claiming. MS said from the get-go they didn't meet the burden of proof needed. So that's their failure, not Judge Gulls.

 

[Vern]

I'll wait for the actual transcripts to see what was said, not rely on a one-sided podcast's interpretation/spin. But thank you.

IMO MOO

Some articles from MSM that also cover Dr. Wala's testimony:

https://www.wane.com/news/indiana/delphi-murders-case-attorneys-argue-where-richard-allen-should-be-held-more-motions/

Monica Wala, a psychologist at Westville Correctional Facility, testified about Allen’s time at the facility and the status of his mental health, particularly during what she described a major episode from April-May 2023.
Wala said Allen exhibited bizarre behavior, including banging his head on the walls, running his head into the cell door and rubbing feces over his body. She said this behavior started April 4, a day after Allen received the legal discovery documents of the case against him. He had also had two recent visits with his attorneys, and she said that could have led to the change in his behavior.
Her testimony continued that it was also that day that Allen’s confessions to other staff started.

After his behavior change, Allen was treated for Brief Psychotic Disorder and did improve, she said. Allen also dealt with depression well before his arrest and was being receiving medication for it at Westville Correctional Facility.
...
Wala also described a call Allen made to his wife in front of her where he reportedly confessed to the crime over the phone.

Channel 13 WTHR Coverage:

Indiana State Police investigator says Richard Allen confessed 61 times to Delphi murders

The man accused of killing two Delphi teenagers has confessed more than 60 times to committing the murders, according to an Indiana State Police detective assigned to the case.

www.21alivenews.com