Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[Melted]

A funny thing about that pic of her on the bridge...
From Cecil's testimony; cross-exam by MS. AUGER:
(snip)
Q All right. Is there a phone – or a picture that you have learned of that you
could not find on L.G.’s phone?
A Yes.
Q What was that?
A That was a picture of A.W. walking across the bridge and it’s kind of taken
off – like off on an angle.
Q And that was posted on her Snapchat account?
A So my understanding from social media is that’s what it was and I was
asked to try to see if I could find that by the investigators.
Q And you could not find that?
A I could not find it.

3 Day Hearing - Google Drive

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As a side note, there was at least one other pic that we never heard about (Cecil's testimony)
(snip)
Q Tilde, thank you. And what did you note there?
A It’s a picture of the Monon High Bridge and it’s like – it’s a picture that was
uploaded to Snapchat and the picture is like – just like somebody would be
standing like in front – like you’re getting ready to walk across it.

Here you go.

 

[mrjitty]

I’m not going to jump to the conclusion that someone sent these photos other than Libby. While I don’t know much of anything about Snapchat other than it’s very different from sending a photograph to somebody and under certain circumstances the photo is deleted after viewing. During the trial I’d expect there will testimony regarding the dynamics of Snapchat. The source of the two photos has certainly been traced long ago, backtracking from the recipient who received them. JMO

Is this even seriously in doubt that Libby posted the photo via snap?

 

[mrjitty]

I am no expert, but I recall back in 2017 Snapchat was different than it is today. If someone opened the Snapchat app and took a photo with the app (not on the camera on their phone) and posted it, then it wasn't stored on the phone. You wouldn't be able to go into your photos and see the photo you took later becuase it wasn't stored on the device. I am unsure if that is still how this works because I no longer use Snapchat.

My kids use Snapchat and every single time they snap someone they take a photo of themselves or something they are doing or looking at and then send that with the snap.. so I'd say nobody would have phone storage space if every single photo was stored on the phone.

IMO this could be why they couldn't find the photo on the phone.

I am no snapchat expert but just some common knowledge basics to maybe make this clearer. An app like snapchat uses the phones camera - just like many other apps do - for imaging. The main difference is going to be that the image is not stored on your phone in the usual place, but rather in some kind of temporary app memory and uploaded to the cloud. So when Cecil says he couldn't find it using his usual investigative tech - it likely is there IMO, but likely within the snapchat app. But there is no need to do complicated work to extract it when the picture is posted to the web. Snapchat will IMO, have given all the relevant info under subpoena, as that photo will need to be admitted into evidence. IMO this will happen without comment.

IIRC it was the Murdaugh case with a snapchat video that was actually not yet uploaded and it was recovered locally?

MOO