Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[Inthedetails]

I think the Mods will open a new thread for TRIAL ----and it can be designated then as only for discussing what is happening in the trial.

When we get closer, we can hit report, and ask for a New Trial thread. It will be in the TRIAL forum.

That would be awesome!

jmo

 

[tlcya]

I am reminded of some of the previous trials I've watched here. Casey Anthony, Jodi Aries, etc. Wild times.

For those that may not have followed high profile trials at WS, just a heads up those threads can move very fast. They can get contentious easily but the content of posts is mainly the testimony being given at that time and members' impressions of it.

I will be thinking of our mods during this trial, it is always a hectic time behind the scenes. Some trials have necessitated several threads in a day, that is how quickly they move and reach post capacity.

 

[FrostedGlass]

People keep saying that---"but he also said he was innocent"-----AS IF that hurts the Prosecution case.

But I don't think it does.

Innocent defendants consistently say they are innocent. They rarely, if ever, confess 60+ times to murder.

Guilty defendants almost always insist they are innocent. So saying that he 'also claimed innocence' means next to nothing, IMO.

Once he confessed so many times and to so many different people, his statements of Innocence are meaningless.

RSBM to focus only on your remark to me. My comment had nothing to do with whether it hurt the prosecution or not. The P wasn't even mentioned.

IMO: The D will call actual medical experts to talk about the effects of whatever drugs RA was given. Hopefully they had a drug analysis done on him. The defense will show the jury numerous videos of RA's actions while he was in a psychotic state. They will see with their own eyes the conditions RA was kept in.

I don't know which way the jury will go.

 

[iamshadow21]

I am reminded of some of the previous trials I've watched here. Casey Anthony, Jodi Aries, etc. Wild times.

For those that may not have followed high profile trials at WS, just a heads up those threads can move very fast. They can get contentious easily but the content of posts is mainly the testimony being given at that time and members' impressions of it.

I will be thinking of our mods during this trial, it is always a hectic time behind the scenes. Some trials have necessitated several threads in a day, that is how quickly they move and reach post capacity.

Yeah, I think Gannon's trial, it moved about a thread every court day. For over a month. And at the same time, there were two other big trials happening, one of which was Lori Vallow. It was nuts.

MOO

 

[katydid23]

RSBM to focus only on your remark to me. My comment had nothing to do with whether it hurt the prosecution or not. The P wasn't even mentioned.

IMO: The D will call actual medical experts to talk about the effects of whatever drugs RA was given. Hopefully they had a drug analysis done on him. The defense will show the jury numerous videos of RA's actions while he was in a psychotic state. They will see with their own eyes the conditions RA was kept in.

I don't know which way the jury will go.

The defendant was not in a psychotic state during every confession. IMO... I doubt he managed to send a letter of confession to the warden while in a psychotic state, for example.

 

[ClearAhead]

RSBM to focus only on your remark to me. My comment had nothing to do with whether it hurt the prosecution or not. The P wasn't even mentioned.

IMO: The D will call actual medical experts to talk about the effects of whatever drugs RA was given. Hopefully they had a drug analysis done on him. The defense will show the jury numerous videos of RA's actions while he was in a psychotic state. They will see with their own eyes the conditions RA was kept in.

I don't know which way the jury will go.

It will be interesting to see how wide the D dare open the door to RA’s mental health as it may have had a direct bearing not only on the confessions but also direct involvement in the act of murder. We don’t know the full extent of his prior mental health issues but it didn’t just begin with his incarceration or drug treatment in prison. MOO

Jurors will hear Delphi murder suspect's statements allegedly admitting to the killings

Richard Allen supposedly told people while he's been in pretrial detention that he killed Libby German and Abby Williams on Feb. 13, 2017.

www.jconline.com

“The Court is not persuaded that the detention caused the defendant to make incriminating statements. While the defendant does suffer from major depressive disorder and anxiety, those are not serious mental illnesses that prevent the defendant from making voluntary statements.”

 

[iamshadow21]

It will be interesting to see how wide the D dare open the door to RA’s mental health as it may have had a direct bearing not only on the confessions but also direct involvement in the act of murder. We don’t know the full extent of his prior mental health issues but it didn’t just begin with his incarceration or drug treatment in prison. MOO

Jurors will hear Delphi murder suspect's statements allegedly admitting to the killings

Richard Allen supposedly told people while he's been in pretrial detention that he killed Libby German and Abby Williams on Feb. 13, 2017.

www.jconline.com

“The Court is not persuaded that the detention caused the defendant to make incriminating statements. While the defendant does suffer from major depressive disorder and anxiety, those are not serious mental illnesses that prevent the defendant from making voluntary statements.”

I think the problem with the defense making mental health a pivotal thing is, they never, in all their bringing it up, asked for so much as a competency assessment, and are not arguing that their client was insane when the crime happened. So I don't know how much they will be able to use a mental health angle. They may struggle to prove relevance.

MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

I think the problem with the defense making mental health a pivotal thing is, they never, in all their bringing it up, asked for so much as a competency assessment, and are not arguing that their client was insane when the crime happened. So I don't know how much they will be able to use a mental health angle. They may struggle to prove relevance.

MOO

Didn't RA go into some sort of rehab or treatment in the weeks following the murder? For depression and/or alcohol issues? Correct me if I'm mis-remembering!

jmo

 

[iamshadow21]

Didn't RA go into some sort of rehab or treatment in the weeks following the murder? For depression and/or alcohol issues? Correct me if I'm mis-remembering!

jmo

I don't recall this.

MOO