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atthelake said:
I cannot fathom it being even worse for the family the testimony that he gave before with photographs. I just cannot fathom. prayers for the family.

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The defense will be jumping up and down all day objecting to his testimony...
 
atthelake said:
It always bugged me that she pointed out in testimony about how she had to buy the KY jelly. I always wondered if that was a setup that she did not know what was coming as far as the prosecution talking about the photos in bed. that have the KY jelly and photograph. And was that what the CVS was for as to the receipt that was brought into evidence that the prosecutor never went down the rabbit hole as to what the receipt was for.

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Could it be that there was no KY at the scene and she saw it in the photo when DF showed her a few pics?
I am one who believes that the sex photos were taken at a different time and she retook them that day, they match up with one of her stories or sex tape. So she had to make up a story of purchasing it?
 
kpm said:
Could it be that there was no KY at the scene and she saw it in the photo when DF showed her a few pics?
I am one who believes that the sex photos were taken at a different time and she retook them that day, they match up with one of her stories or sex tape. So she had to make up a story of purchasing it?
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Do mean she took a picture of a picture she had on her camera using TA's camera?
 
lil_buddy said:
...which were faked so that everyone would think they had sex when the forensic team using their state of the art technology was actually able to extract them.

And everyone fell into her trap of thinking she committed the murder even tho she said she wasn't there/intruders did it so they could have a big trial and she could tell the world what an evil SOB Travis was.

It all falls into place.

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"So they could have a big trial"--snort! Not even the pulpiest novelist would touch that plot with a ten-foot pole ...
 
Oh, I forgot another portion of the interview that made me roll my eyes so much I thought they'd get lost in my brain. The load of crap about the church and titheing and giving away to other inmates and blah, blah, blah....

Does she not comprehend how unnatural all of her BS sounds when she brutally murdered someone she was supposed to have loved? About the only true statement she made during that interview was that Travis truly didn't want to live a life that went against his principles...aka being with Jodi Arias.
 
outofstatelawyer said:
It would not surprise me in the least if the DT claims Arias' father sexually abused her. So what if she never told anyone that before? No ridiculous claim is beyond them.
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You just know it's coming. I'll bet he knows it, too.
 
kpm said:
Could it be that there was no KY at the scene and she saw it in the photo when DF showed her a few pics?
I am one who believes that the sex photos were taken at a different time and she retook them that day, they match up with one of her stories or sex tape. So she had to make up a story of purchasing it?
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I think Jodi's story was built around the evidence and the photos. If she saw the photo and knew Juan had the reciept, she beat him to it. Since she owned it, Juan didn't even waste time going there. He went for lies he could prove.
 
If I killed myself because this case has made me so crazy, could my family sue JA, the Judge and the State of AZ?
 
ncgramma said:
It's always bugged me too, KatFish. Do we have any evidence, other than Jodi, that they had sex and posed for those photos that day?
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The thing about trying to read into those photos is that they are pictures of a literal instant in time. A lot of pictures come out looking goofy in some way because at the moment it was snapped someone blinked or turned their head or started to cough. If Travis' eyes look heavy it may be that he was in mid-blink when the pic was snapped. We don't know. Same with the other sex pics, they're awkwardly composed because they are candid shots, taken without much thought or worry about quality because they were not meant to be seen by others anyway.

Surely I'm not the only one here who has taken bad pictures before?
 
neesaki said:
I agree, it's obvious in the photos and the video that was shown that he wasn't keeping their relationship a secret while they were an "official " couple . That all changed when they broke up and Travis was trying to move on but there were still sexual liaisons going on. I think this is where FJA came up with that "dirty little secret" and you know that's one of the things that just enraged and got all over her, that Travis was ashamed of still being involved with her and was keeping it totally discreet while he tried to get her completely out of his life. The only reason he couldn't get totally free of her was because she's the leach and parasite that she is.
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Well said. IMO it appears from the facts in evidence once Jodi Arias realized her dirty sex was backfiring she had to find other ways to manipulate Travis including but not limited to the "scamming" and betrayal he referred to in the days just prior to his murder.
 
Lol Jodie arias throwing Kirk nurmi under the bus! He supposedly told her she had no mitigating factors. Her facial expressions that that twitch of evil?
 
beeshie said:
Sex....
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I imagine it's a bit more than just sex...

This is pure speculation as to how it went down...
JA shows up and begs him to forgive her for whatever it is she did, apologizes profusely.
Offers the CD with pics and the check for the BMW as proof of her contrition.
Probably offers lots of other things (as proof of her contrition) that she had no intention of acting upon because she knew she would be murdering him later.
She asks if she can stay the night, she has no cash for a hotel, would have to sleep in her car otherwise (guilt trip).
Then starts putting on the moves for that last hurrah (oh baby, you are soooo sexy, i've missed you so much, etc.).

please do not quote this as fact!!!!!
 
Peanut2 said:
I'm a first time poster, and I'd like to say hello to everyone. I've been following this case from the beginning, and my brother, daughter and daughter's boyfriend all follow it as well as a couple of friends. I'm from Canada, and it's interesting to see how differently things are done in the U.S. There seems to be a lot more transparency, and journalists provide much more background info on criminal case players than they do here.

I've been lurking for a while and find this to be a very fascinating, informative and fast moving forum. I am way behind on pages I want to read- can't keep up!

Jodi was unbelievably cool and calculating when she set up the post verdict interview on Sunday- planning to be interviewed if the verdict came back M1. Listening to her voice mail to Troy, and watching the interview, particularly the part where she talks about having no mitigating circumstances was enlightening to me. In the interview, she played the part of a somber woman who has accepted her fate- the fate of being sentenced to death for murder when in (her) reality she killed Travis in self defence. But some of the things she said, in her faux appreciative way, were:

- She loves her mother, who is a saint, and she (Jodi) hasn't treated her well
- The defence came up with the plan to claim self defence, and she took the stand because the defence advised her it would be best strategically
- She has had conflict with Nurmi because she had different ideas on how to handle things, but Nurmi is "the boss".

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/2...ias-told-fox-10-she-has-no-mitigating-factors

But she's clever, because she doesn't criticize him for saying he doesn't like her 9 days out of 10, and that she recognizes they work hard. Manipulators will do this sort of thing so that they can be perceived as reasonable, and maybe even gullible. But in her last comment she indicates (paraphrasing) that she can only speculate as to what "angle" they're going to try for her at this point.. as if she has merely been a spectator in this trial and has not had any control or input at all. Her demeanor in the interview makes me think of the waif borderline. She's presenting herself as helpless and at the mercy of her DT:

http://gettinbetter.com/waif.html

I think her plan is to pretend to want the death penalty, and to try to manipulate the system in any way she can so that she can get the death penalty, because then the state will pay for her defence. I think with the interview, her supposed wish for death and/or the DP, and statements about her DT; she's setting up to claim that she had incompetent representation and their "spin" on the best way to present their case was something she was not on board with, but went along with because she didn't know any better. I know she has been strongly opposed the idea of being perceived as having mental health problems before, but she is desperate now and might be embracing that position because she is out of alternatives. Her comments where she speaks of death being the "ultimate freedom" are calculated to generate an impression of mental health "difficulties". I feel that her positive comments about her mother were related to strategy and future appeals.

I realize that the chances of her winning in the future are slim, but she has nothing to lose, and she is relentless by nature anyway.

Just decided today to stick my toe in the water. Thank you Websleuths, for all that you do. I hope you all have a nice day!
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krkrjx said:
FGS, she wants the media and probably everyone else to stop stating false info about Jodi....but she sat in court laughing and cutting up as her niece stated (under oath, no less) bold-faced LIES about the man she murdered.

As my grandma used to say, "It takes all kinds to make a world."
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The twins' demeanor in court is where I have a problem with sympathy for them. I know everyone copes with stress differently, but their frequent laughter was totally outside the bounds of common decency, imo.

I have tried to put myself in their place and understand their actions, but honestly, I can't. One of my sons got into some trouble years ago, and while I loved him unconditionally, I told him straight up he had to own up to his behavior. No, it wasn't murder, but it was serious.

I would be in court everyday, supporting and loving a family member accused, but I would, hopefully, not make excuses for them if I knew them to be guilty. I do believe they know CFJA is guilty. The mom knew in her interview with Det. Flores. At least, it's painfully apparent to me. Dad did, too.

While I don't expect them to be able to convince the felon to apologize and show remorse, I do expect them to show some. Perhaps the DT told the family to profess her innocence in a show of solidarity, IDK. But to continue the charade of DV, and initiate a FB page, etc., supporting the lies, makes me ill.

Mental illness runs deep in my family, and I often wonder if it does on CFJA's maternal side, as well. Perhaps they've been able to convince themselves that everyone but CFJA is guilty. If so, it's complete denial on their part.

Then again, maybe after the trial is over, they'll surprise us all with their true thoughts. I'm not holding out much hope for that, however.
 
Emmi said:
Just the time-stamped photos that show them naked and in sexual poses.
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Guess you can tell I was relying on comments here and never went to look at the photos. It's probably dumb but I've been reluctant to invade TA's privacy more than it already has been. Thanks, Emmi.
 
Whack A Mole said:
I keep wondering who I can sue for my butt growing... :floorlaugh:
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Can I sue her for my severe case of acrophobia and panic attacks? Developed at the onset of this trial.
I'm afraid to leave the house because I may miss something ! It's causing me major stress and anxiety.
 
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