Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, cap murder chg, & Vicky Sue White, CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22*Reward*

[citizen_sleuth]

this thought makes the hair on my arms stand-up, sadly, we know it is a distinct possibility. People, all genders, are often unaware of their manipulation by a clever actor. The criminal mind is dangerous.

Even more than the criminal mind, is CW’s past actions. When he felt threatened and was on the run, he did not hesitate to carjack and kidnap others. And also shot dogs.

It seems people are expendable to him when they no longer serve his purpose. Even if VW was a willing participant, she is in grave danger. I have a feeling if the authorities close in on him, she is going to become a pawn he will not hesitate to use. MOO.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Even more than the criminal mind, is CW’s past actions. When he felt threatened and was on the run, he did not hesitate to carjack and kidnap others. And also shot dogs.

It seems people are expendable to him when they no longer serve his purpose. Even if VW was a willing participant, she is in grave danger. I have a feeling if the authorities close in on him, she is going to become a pawn he will not hesitate to use. MOO.

Not only did he not hesitate to carjack a bunch of people at gunpoint, he shot a woman NUMEROUS TIMES when she refused to give up her car. As is fitting with this whole train crash is that she was saved by an XBox, of all things.

 

[MinnyPin]

Even though a completely different scenario this reminds me of when Tia Bynum assisted a former fellow officer abduct his kids. In that situation, he had more to lose than CW, yet his desperation led to murder-suicide (4 deaths) when a manhunt began and they attempted a traffic stop.

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IMO this is not going to end well, this guy has literally nothing to lose.

 

[BeckyF]

If both the inmate and VW had this escape planned, I’d think they would want more than 1 weapon with them while on the run. The only weapon we know of that they have in their possession is her 9mm police issued gun, right? There could be weapons stashed someplace. Or he knows where to get them, being a criminal and all.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I hope the heck LE has an eye on CW's ex-girlfriend and her children:

"According to a complaint filed by Investigator Leslie Ramsey in Limestone County Circuit Clerk's Office, the night of Dec. 2, White went to a home at 22608 Smith Road where his former girlfriend, KT, had recently moved with her two children. White entered the home armed with a .40-caliber handgun and a .380-caliber handgun.

Several people resided at the home, but inside that night White found KT, CA and KF in a back bedroom watching television. KT's two children were in the basement at the time.

White had been at the home the week before when another resident of the home, JP, ordered him to leave while holding a shotgun. White said he believed KT was having a relationship with one of the residents.

KT, meanwhile, ran past White and out the back door. White said he fired multiple shots at her but missed as she fled. CA and KF escaped through a bathroom window.

White said he was still paranoid about the shotgun, so he fired several shots in front of him as he fled out the front door. In the process, he fatally shot the family dog. He then went on a crime spree (in Limestone County and Tennessee).

When apprehended (by Limestone County authorities), he said his intent was to kill KT and have police kill him. His only regret was that neither took place. He said if he was released he would kill KT."

Video: Suspect's 2-state crime spree, pursuit ends in shootout

Edit: All names changed to initials.

 

[Bravo]

Looks like this will likely end with death by cop

 

[StrawberryFields]

I hope the heck LE has an eye on CW's ex-girlfriend and her children:

"According to a complaint filed by Investigator Leslie Ramsey in Limestone County Circuit Clerk's Office, the night of Dec. 2, White went to a home at 22608 Smith Road where his former girlfriend, KT, had recently moved with her two children. White entered the home armed with a .40-caliber handgun and a .380-caliber handgun.

Several people resided at the home, but inside that night White found KT, CA and KF in a back bedroom watching television. KT's two children were in the basement at the time.

White had been at the home the week before when another resident of the home, JP, ordered him to leave while holding a shotgun. White said he believed KT was having a relationship with one of the residents.

KT, meanwhile, ran past White and out the back door. White said he fired multiple shots at her but missed as she fled. CA and KF escaped through a bathroom window.

White said he was still paranoid about the shotgun, so he fired several shots in front of him as he fled out the front door. In the process, he fatally shot the family dog. He then went on a crime spree (in Limestone County and Tennessee).

When apprehended (by Limestone County authorities), he said his intent was to kill KT and have police kill him. His only regret was that neither took place. He said if he was released he would kill KT."

Video: Suspect's 2-state crime spree, pursuit ends in shootout

Edit: All names changed to initials.

I really hope KT is in a secure location. I imagine she is with the FBI taking the lead here

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

I haven’t been on WS in a few years. But this case drew me back in for a minute.

Below is just speculation/hypothesizing based on the limited facts available so far:

I agree w/those who are focusing in on the retirement papers submitted the day before the escape. Suggests pre-planning of some sort.

I agree with other posters that one hypothesis is that they intended to make it look like an escape and took a long shot that she’d be cleared and able to collect her pension. But since retirement isn’t processed immediately in most cases, I also was considering whether VW realized she might end up dead and wanted a hypothetical beneficiary to be able to collect on her retirement if she lost her life (this could theoretically be true whether she realized she was taking a risk of assisting an escape by her own doing or bc her hand was forced due to some threat to her or her fam).

But the latter is honestly just my “benefit of the doubt” lens kicking in. I think most likely scenario is she was manipulated into some sort of relationship with him (real or not) OR, as one or two others have mentioned, that there is some sort of (even more distant) family connection that wasn’t caught.

I’ve also wondered (speculated) if there’s any chance he falsely claimed responsibility for a crime (using details leaked to him) in order to get transferred to this facility.

Finally, others have showed that CW was listed in a different facility. Could this have been purposefully adjusted by an internal party with the hopes he’d get lost in the system and Lauderdale wouldn’t look for him? Or is it just a delay in records being updated or some sort of failure to record a temporary transfer?

Fascinating no one has shared any video evidence yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some sort of family talking to LE or if there is video but they’re holding on to it for some purpose (like not alerting VW and CW that they ARE on their track)?

 

[CharlestonGal]

If both the inmate and VW had this escape planned, I’d think they would want more than 1 weapon with them while on the run. The only weapon we know of that they have in their possession is her 9mm police issued gun, right? There could be weapons stashed someplace. Or he knows where to get them, being a criminal and all.

Vicki White had a 9mm firearm, and it was not known whether there were any other weapons in the patrol vehicle, Singleton said.

U.S. Marshals offering $10,000 for missing Alabama inmate and officer

I was concerned about additional weapons because I know LE often has rifles or shotguns in the trunk. Who knows what was in the trunk of that patrol car? The sheriff apparently doesn't know either.

 

[Bessdrewtwo]

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Forgot to add my other thought: could her patrol car have stopped briefly at the car lot so that they could acquire a used car for him? And then her car was moved to a less conspicuous location to be left, and they got away in the used car?

Again MOO

The answer may be somewhere in the news, but I also wondered if she left a TRANSPORT vehicle in the police lot and then took off from there in a PATROL car that she left in the store lot? I.e. Could she have used two different kinds of correction vehicles? Only wondered bc I saw different titles used for the vehicles questioned. Could just be different vocab used by different reporters too.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I really hope KT is in a secure location. I imagine she is with the FBI taking the lead here

I can't wrap my head around this. CW, who is in maximum security in a state prison for 75 years and also facing trial for new death penalty charges, winds up strolling out of a local minimum security county jail to go tooling around in the patrol car of a local deputy.

I mean, how does that even happen???

I know the sheriff is set to retire in Jan 2023, but he should be impeached, in my opinion. Or at least placed on leave while someone else cleans up that mess of a jail. IMO

 

[B4igo2it]

I wonder who she put as beneficiaries on her retirement docs?

 

[TGIRecovered]

Has there been any mention of cell phone tracking? I think most modern law enforcement agencies have the ability to electronically locate their vehicles.

 

[sds71]

@hunterjacksonfm

FLORENCE, AL: The Lauderdale County Sheriff’s Office has released the most recent photos of missing inmate Casey White. A press conference will be held Monday, at 10 a.m.. Submit tips to the U.S. Marshals Service by calling: 1-800-336-0102

 

[Willow Knight]

I wonder if she somehow envisioned that she would tell her office (via phone or email, perhaps) that due to her supposed illness, she wouldn't be returning to work and would just let the retirement pay kick in.

(I don't think new financial arrangements would he necessary -- her retirement payments would be direct deposited to the same account she has her paychecks sent into, in most cases)

But -- wouldn't she realize that if her disappearance coincided with the escape of a prisoner she transported, it would get all the scrutiny?

Likewise, did she forget to arrange CW's return transport from courthouse back to jail? Even if she knew he wasn't going to the courthouse nor back to jail, if her alibi was that she was taking him to court and then going off duty for a medical appointment, the alibi then requires someone assigned to return him... no?

MOO

Exactly. Something just doesn't sit right with me. The fact an inmate is missing on her watch doesn't make sense. She would know LE would be looking for her, at the very least to ask what she did with the killer. IMO, all the planning in the world would be useless if she left with CW and NOT return him.

 

[vls12345]

"The defendant was previously in Alabama state custody but was transferred to Lauderdale County over the Ridgeway killing."

Has anyone seen mention of when CW was transferred from state custody into Lauderdale County custody? How recent was this?

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[Rosiebones]

Why does he appear to be walking without supervision in that jail with his record?

Also, if she drove her own car to work that morning and left it in the usual parking lot and then used her police vehicle to transport him and left that in the mall parking lot, there must have been someone or another vehicle waiting for them. They couldn't have left that up to chance.

 

[MassGuy]

Lauderdale County Sheriff's Office just released new, recent images of Casey White, saying they continue to work with state and federal agencies in following leads and investigating the escape. Another press conference scheduled for 10 tomorrow morning. @WAAYTV will be there.


https://twitter.com/brittanyharrytv/status/1520866162313211909?s=21&t=sO-d0DwzKvUd7OtofZxy1Q

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

And if VW submitted those retirement papers *a day earlier* and didn't think there might be more processing of them needed, did she really think they wouldn't be able to track her withdrawals, whether the retirement funds were a pension or 401k? Payments would perhaps be direct deposited into a bank account *somewhere* on a regular basis. Or perhaps she chose a one-time lump sum withdrawal of the funds.

Edited to add - last part got omitted above. Meant to add to last sentence - even a one-time lump sum withdrawal, which would be subject to penalties if she isn't 59 1/2 years old, has to go somewhere so you can access the funds!

 

[Willow Knight]

I thought about this, too. But even if someone else did put a fake appointment in the system, CW would have just been transported with the others who had appointments that day. In the vans, with armed escorts. If Vicky did get an "ooops....last minute appointment" transport instruction after they left it would have had to have (1) come from a superior, because none of this is how things work, and (2) someone that knew all the other transport officers were gone, leaving Vicky alone and counting on her violating policy and (3) arranged a getaway vehicle, and (4) didn't care if CW killed Vicky in the process, and (5) was confident the booking officer would go along with it. So who in that jail had that kind of power and control? And even if they did, what would be their motive in arranging CW's escape, who other than being an inmate facing the death penalty, is a nobody?

I'm sure ALED and the FBI are both crawling up the butts of everyone in the chain of command at that jail and everyone else that works there to see who else, if anybody, was involved in this.

Such a cluster. IMO

Was reading your comment above about who in that jail had the kind of power and control. Then what would a person's motive be in arranging the escape. One factor I would be looking at closely is who hired CW to kill Ms Ridgeway. If it was a murder for hire, someone would want CW out of jail, and not able to testify.