GUILTY AL - Kathleen "Kat" West, 42, murdered, Calera, 13 Jan 2018 *husband arrested*

[PetDetective]

Thank you. I’m not 100% sure how escort websites operate, but I believe you have to renew your post after a certain time frame or it becomes “inactive”. Without any judgment from myself and simply trying to establish facts surrounding her life, IMO she would have had to keep this post renewed for it to still be viewable.

Sugardaddy.com is not what I would call an escort site. Yes, there are escorts who use SD sites to get business, but if they get reported, their profile will be deleted. Also, SD sites are similar to dating sites - once you create a profile, it’ll be there until you remove it.

Escort ads absolutely need to be updated frequently to stay in the first pages of results. Some sites will delete them after x amount of days, some just let them get buried by the newer ads.


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[PetDetective]

But it says last activity was 2 weeks ago.

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She could have been active, but had not changed her profile recently.


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[MittenScarpetta]

Sugardaddy.com is not what I would call an escort site. Yes, there are escorts who use SD sites to get business, but if they get reported, their profile will be deleted. Also, SD sites are similar to dating sites - once you create a profile, it’ll be there until you remove it.

Escort ads absolutely need to be updated frequently to stay in the first pages of results. Some sites will delete them after x amount of days, some just let them get buried by the newer ads.


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It may not be a legit escort site but more of a read between the lines site passing itself off as a dating site. In other words, SD.com doesn’t openly promote soliciting for sex, but it’s happening and it’s clear from viewing the link that’s what was going on with this particular profile. Again, no judgement, just trying to understand the facts surrounding this case.

 

[kristinjeree]

I saw it on another forum. The poster stated the ad was 4 years old.


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Yes, the original posting was from 2014. She was married to her husband at this time. This indicates that this was a lifestyle she was not new to, and her husband was likely privy. JMO

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[PetDetective]

It may not be a legit escort site but more of a read between the lines site passing itself off as a dating site. In other words, SD.com doesn’t openly promote soliciting for sex, but it’s happening and it’s clear from viewing the link that’s what was going on with this particular profile. Again, no judgement, just trying to understand the facts surrounding this case.

You are mostly correct. I had a profile on there in another lifetime, and I met a few men for drinks or dinner, but it always felt too weird to me. Either the guy was clearly not who he claimed or it was just awkward. There were the occasional messages from guys offering 1000 for specific requests, but I ignored them. The impression I got from both the site as well as other members was escorts were not allowed or welcome. Things may have changed in the past 10+ years though.

 

[iluvmua]

Maybe the police accessed it for clues?

 

[Cherry]

There is no proof she was meeting anyone in person. In fact, more often than not, an online pay per view site is exactly that. Until it's verified she was in fact providing services in person we should all reserve judgement. Whatever they were into it was a joint venture. I saw his SM accts (plural) before he deleted them.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

There is no proof she was meeting anyone in person. In fact, more often than not, an online pay per view site is exactly that. Until it's verified she was in fact providing services in person we should all reserve judgement. Whatever they were into it was a joint venture. I saw his SM accts (plural) before he deleted them.

Respectfully, sugardaddy dot com is not a pay per view site. Her other site she used was a pay per view site. Two completely different sites and one of them is for meeting “sugar daddies” .

 

[PrairieWind]

I can only imagine what gossip must be going around that town right now. Ugggghhhh! And especially right in that neighborhood!

 

[Satchie]

Respectfully, sugardaddy dot com is not a pay per view site. Her other site she used was a pay per view site. Two completely different sites and one of them is for meeting “sugar daddies” .

However, we don't know whether she actually accepted any offers from sugar daddies, or even how many/how often she actually received them. There are far more women than men on those sites, since men have to pay to join. Her face isn't visible, most men would want to see that. She was much older than the typical 20 somethings on there, and married, which could be a turn off for that clientele (it's not a swingers site).

The profile could have been mainly an early adventure in her developing online exhibitionism.

 

[bwt42]

She had been drinking. She went outside for whatever reason, fell, hit her head & bled out. It being investigated as a homicide doesn't mean it was homicide.

 

[iluvmua]

She had been drinking. She went outside for whatever reason, fell, hit her head & bled out. It being investigated as a homicide doesn't mean it was homicide.

This is what i think happened.

Jmo

 

[PrairieWind]

She had been drinking. She went outside for whatever reason, fell, hit her head & bled out. It being investigated as a homicide doesn't mean it was homicide.

I keep coming back to that possibility, or at least something along those lines. But I just think if that had happened the police would have already ruled it an accident. I am guessing something about the wound to her head indicates it wasn't accidental.

 

[PetDetective]

I keep coming back to that possibility, or at least something along those lines. But I just think if that had happened the police would have already ruled it an accident. I am guessing something about the wound to her head indicates it wasn't accidental.

I agree. I mean, if it were an accident they would want to put the citizens minds at ease and at the very least say her death is not suspicious.


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[always reading]

This is what i think happened.

Jmo

But wasn't she faced down but the blood was coming from the back of her head?

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[Oregonmama]

Who is in charge of the investigation ? I wonder if outside agencies can be involved like the FBI due to the fact that perhaps a sp crossed state lines and was a customer on her internet website.........

 

[PrairieWind]

I have not yet seen anything that would give the FBI jurisdiction, so it would be local agencies in charge. Either the local police department of sheriff's office. I am sure they are using state level resources to assist however.

 

[PrairieWind]

But wasn't she faced down but the blood was coming from the back of her head?

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That is what the neighbor said he saw when his daughter came and got him after she found Kathleen.

 

[Satchie]

But wasn't she faced down but the blood was coming from the back of her head?

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Yes, I think a forensic medical examiner can tell if a headwound is from falling, or being struck with force. Just falling from a standing position doesn't generate as much force as being hit by a powerful blow, and will show up in how the bones were damaged.

Also, as others have commented, there would be blood spatter where she'd hit her head, and a trail to her final location, not just a small pool below where she was found. I do think she was placed there, possibly wrapped in something that was removed. Perhaps the person hoped it would look like an accident, though that would be pretty stupid of them.

 

[PrairieWind]

I agree Satchie. I think maybe if a person fell and hit his/her head on a corner of a coffee table or something it could do that sort of damage, but there doesn't appear to be anything like that in or near the street. And she couldn't have crawled there or, as you said, there would be a blood trail. Its possible she was hit/killed right where she was found, and maybe there was blood spatter we just havent heard about. But neighbors said they heard no dispute or commotion during the night/morning.