Found Deceased AL - Paighton Houston, 29, left bar with 2 men, Birmingham, 20 Dec 2019

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I’m sure some of the regular patrons that were known by the bar employees would’ve noticed if she was talking with these guys. Have they been questioned? Do we know this?
Did she smoke cigs? Maybe she ran into them outside.
Does anyone have knowledge of the bar size/layout? Sorry joining late, MOO
 
I don’t really understand why trafficking always comes up as I have yet to see such a case take that turn. But it always does...unfortunately this sounds too much like the sort of outcome whenever women go missing after a night out...jmo. I hope there is a resolution...far too many missing people are just never found.
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I'm wondering this, myself. How many cases of missing young women actually turn out to have been trafficking cases? It seems like that's always a thought people have, but it never turns out that way.

Females, especially southern girls, are taught to be polite along with stranger danger. I’ve caught myself doing it with my own daughter.

Don’t talk to strangers, but when the nice man holds the door for you, you say thank you sir. Trust your gut, but don’t make a scene in public. Don’t be rude, respect your elders, speak when you’re spoken to, etc.

Imo, we need to teach our kids, girls and boys, to speak up when something feels wrong. If that man who held the door open gives you the creeps, you are not obligated to chat with him about the weather. When the sweet old lady in the waiting room keeps getting closer and closer to admire your baby, hold them for a second, it’s okay to say no!

I notice it a lot because I wasn’t raised in the south and to see my teen daughter caught between being polite and trusting her gut, it’s scares me. She needs to know she CAN make a scene, it’s okay if she overreacts, it’s better to be wrong than to be harmed. It’s okay to offend someone instead of taking a chance with your safety.

I grew up in a northern city and wouldn’t hesitate to tell someone who was making me uncomfortable to leave me alone or even F-off.

As to how this might relate to Paighton, she may have felt uncomfortable but didn’t want to draw attention to it. Maybe she told herself she was overreacting, maybe she did drink or take drugs (willingly or not) and questioned her judgement. Sending a text to a friend is a subtle way to look for help but not feel foolish if she was wrong. JMO as someone living in the south for 20 years, but raised elsewhere. This is something that really stands out to me.
I get what you're saying, and I agree with it, but as someone who's been on the other side of this, it can be pretty awful if someone makes a scene in public because she read something in your intent that wasn't there. I'm a very cautious, skeptical person who doesn't open up or make friends easily, I have a tendency to mutter to myself while thinking out loud, even in public, and I'm a big and fairly ugly guy. I make people, especially females, nervous just by existing. I kinda have to adopt an outwardly "nice guy" persona because people tend to take one look at me and automatically assume I'm a bad guy. And there's really nothing I can do about that.

(English is not my primary language.)
Does "heavy set" mean muscular/strong, or overweight?
It could mean any of these, or a combination of all of them. Basically, they're big guys.
 
I’m sure some of the regular patrons that were known by the bar employees would’ve noticed if she was talking with these guys. Have they been questioned? Do we know this?
Did she smoke cigs? Maybe she ran into them outside.
Does anyone have knowledge of the bar size/layout? Sorry joining late, MOO
All we know is that the bar is cooperating with BPD.

Don’t know about cigarettes.

The bar is in the middle & can be accessed both inside & outside where the stage is. There was live music the night PH was there. The main band started at 10:30pm. Max capacity is 550. Someone correct me if this has changed... There is a door on the left to enter & one on the right to exit (both are on the front side of the building). There is always security up there (& in the back where the stage is), usually both in & outside & usually uniformed police officers.

ETA: when you walk in, there are tables/booths to sit in & pool tables on either side of the main entryway/lower section. Walking up 5 or so stairs brings you to 3/4 of the bar, which is inside & has seating all around. The stage is put back, past the bar. There is limited seating in that area — just a handful of high top tables & stools around the area where the fourth side of the bar can be accessed.
 
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (WBRC) - Friday evening, Gov. Kay Ivey issued a $5,000 reward for credible information in the case of missing Trussville woman Paighton Houston. This comes in addition to a $5,000 reward announced by Crime Stoppers earlier the same day.

“Unfortunately, another female is missing in the state of Alabama. The whereabouts of Paighton Laine Houston have been unknown since Friday, December 20. In the midst of the busy holiday season, it is critical that we support Paighton, her family and law enforcement to ensure we do everything possible to bring her home," the governor said in a statement.
Reward money reaches $10K in case of missing Trussville woman
Also from the article:
“On Good Day Friday morning, the Chairman of the board of Crime Stoppers of Metro Alabama hoped the latest reward would lead to a break in the case.

‘You will be totally anonymous. No one will ever ask you to the district attorney. Police will never interview you. You will be paid a cash reward in as little time as one week,’ Frank Barefield said.

Barefield added no one has to be arrested. If your information helps with the investigation you will get a reward. The chairman says they are seeing a growing number of missing persons cases and since a number of them are adults, at times it’s difficult to determine what their status is.“ (BBM)
Rather unusual, IMO. Hopefully, it helps.
 
The speculation about the video, is mute. Either the persons, she left with are not identifiable, or they do not have video of the two men and PH leaving together. We Know this information came from a friend or friends of PH. I wouldn't read anything into it. As for being apprehensive about the friends.....well, considering the HB case of late, I understand. I think the drug angle may have played a role, as the odds of someone abusing heroin truly recovering are slim to none.
Please understand that, this is only my opinion, and by no means do I intend to cast a shadow on the victim. I will say, that in this day and age, traveling with anyone you don't know is a risk. probably why we don't see a lot of people hitchhiking anymore. The text, is our biggest clue that something abnormal was happening. I can not imagine anyone sending a text like this unless they were already leery of the situation. Either in a place they did not want to be and feeling like they could not just walk away from it, or in route to somewhere other than where they thought they were initially going. I will also add that a bar of any type is no place for a recovering addict.
The best hope anyone in that situation has is to completely remove themselves from any environment that could trigger a relapse, including anyone who they have ever used with, up to and including immediate family. As harsh as that sounds, the odds of recovery without this important step, drop to almost 0.
 
Does anyone local know if this is a bar that has a fairly equal racial makeup? I know this is Birmingham but pretty regularly in Alabama we tend to see that some bars are typically African American and others are primarily white. I’m not talking solely, just primarily. My reasoning is that if it was a primarily African American or primarily Caucasian bar, either she or those she would have left with would have stood out significantly leading to a better chance of identifying them. If the racial makeup is even...then who knows if this situation would have stood out. If it did stand out, then hopefully anyone there that night can be interviewed if they come forward.
 
Does anyone local know if this is a bar that has a fairly equal racial makeup? I know this is Birmingham but pretty regularly in Alabama we tend to see that some bars are typically African American and others are primarily white. I’m not talking solely, just primarily. My reasoning is that if it was a primarily African American or primarily Caucasian bar, either she or those she would have left with would have stood out significantly leading to a better chance of identifying them. If the racial makeup is even...then who knows if this situation would have stood out. If it did stand out, then hopefully anyone there that night can be interviewed if they come forward.

Tin Roof has hundreds of photos on their Facebook page of parties, events and random nights at the bar. Appears to be about 99% white. Agreed that 2 heavyset African American men would have been noticed. I wonder if they were regulars? I know there is a lot of talk about them being heavyset, the description makes me think they were built, like football players.

IMO, I think the simplest explanation is that she left with these first two guys b/c she somewhat knew them or trusted them. With her past addiction, it's possible she knew them from her old lifestyle and left to purchase or do drugs.

The text makes me think that she was with different people later in the night though. It seems that after leaving the bar, all was fine. It wasn't until 1.5 hours later that she began to get worried and didn't know the people she was with.
 
I am worried the two heavyset black men were security staff who escorted a drunk girl out of the bar and then someone took advantage of her vulnerable state, e.g., the woman in Boston and Hannah Graham. I’m sure I’m not the first person with that theory. That’d be one reason for not showing the video.
 
I am worried the two heavyset black men were security staff who escorted a drunk girl out of the bar and then someone took advantage of her vulnerable state, e.g., the woman in Boston and Hannah Graham. I’m sure I’m not the first person with that theory. That’d be one reason for not showing the video.
This is what initially crossed my mind as well.
 
Also if you go to her public Venmo account linked on an earlier page, over the last 6 months she was exchanging money with friends for "drinks", "drinks for the pool", etc. I think it's likely that she was drinking in general, as well as that evening and possibly slipping back into her old lifestyle. Alcoholism can be linked to endocarditis, and she almost died of that.
 
The text makes me think that she was with different people later in the night though. It seems that after leaving the bar, all was fine. It wasn't until 1.5 hours later that she began to get worried and didn't know the people she was with.

I tried to snip the quoted post above. Apologies if I did it wrong.

IMO, more than likely after spending a bit of time with the gentlemen, she started to feel uneasy. Maybe because of the activities she observed them engage in or where they took her. It is unfortunate that she didn't share her location. I know even with a Samsung, you can share your location for a limited time via text.
 
Terrifying story.

Also, I wonder if the friend responded. My first response would be, "WHERE ARE YOU? I will come get you right now."
I know - if someone said "If I call, answer" I'd be panicky and call right then, I think.

It is unfortunate that she didn't share her location. I know even with a Samsung, you can share your location for a limited time via text.

Hopefully she had Google timeline or similar enabled so at least her location for a short time after leaving will become known.
 
Agreed Dre, at least there would be hope in that scenario, she would be alive :(
I agree but unfortunately, the most common age for a young woman to be trafficked is 12-14.
I would love to find out she is being trafficked so she could be alive.. that is just an absolutely terrifying and traumatizing alternative to the worst...
This case makes my stomach knot up, I am so incredibly hopeful that LE is indeed being strategic with the way they’re handling things and we just don’t need to know .. but so sad for this woman and what she’s gone through after that text, and her whole family in agony and misery in a time of the year that’s supposed to be full of love and family :(
Although statistically anyone of any age can be trafficked, among females the most common age is 12-14.
 
My friend and I used to do stupid stuff all the time without thought, but we always stuck together. Even still, I can remember a time that we left with 2-3 guys and felt okay about it until we arrived at our destination. There were MANY more guys there and I felt very uneasy. I wonder if they took her to a party. That’s what scares me... she could have been with those two guys or ANYONE. I’m shocked that her friend didn’t respond immediately. I’m sure she feels regret now if she didn’t.
 
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