Anita Rose, 57, walking her dog, police investigating suspected murder, Brantham, Suffolk, 24th July 2024'

[Sarahlou]

I must say I'm very impressed if this was a routine walk, after an hour Anita had still not completed her return journey. I wonder if it was her commitment to owning a Springer Spaniel and living in a house with not much opportunity for his exercise. I do wonder if the app she used was to ensure that Bruce had a minimum mileage/distance covered per day or morning, perhaps even with an additional later walk. Looking at Google maps the point at which Anita turns off the app is by the railway bridge where she presumably entered back down that track running alongside the railway, which converges with Rectory Lane further down. I wonder if at that point she habitually let Bruce off his lead to have a run about which would not be recordable by the app, but she is not worried because he has had his minimum 'goal' of exercise? I can't think of another reason for ceasing the recording at that point, unless she wanted to be clandestine about part of her route, which seems unlikely to me. It might explain one puzzle I have, which is the greater unlikelihood of a stranger encounter with anyone with a very lively dog on a lead. I wonder if Bruce was found with his lead on or off.

Just a few musings.

I remember in an article a while ago someone who lived in the village said Anita would take her dog out about 3 times a day for 2 hours at a time. I thought that seemed too excessive to be true but maybe she did do a couple of very long walks.

 

[slowpoke]

I must say I'm very impressed if this was a routine walk, after an hour Anita had still not completed her return journey. I wonder if it was her commitment to owning a Springer Spaniel and living in a house with not much opportunity for his exercise. I do wonder if the app she used was to ensure that Bruce had a minimum mileage/distance covered per day or morning, perhaps even with an additional later walk. Looking at Google maps the point at which Anita turns off the app is by the railway bridge where she presumably entered back down that track running alongside the railway, which converges with Rectory Lane further down. I wonder if at that point she habitually let Bruce off his lead to have a run about which would not be recordable by the app, but she is not worried because he has had his minimum 'goal' of exercise? I can't think of another reason for ceasing the recording at that point, unless she wanted to be clandestine about part of her route, which seems unlikely to me. It might explain one puzzle I have, which is the greater unlikelihood of a stranger encounter with anyone with a very lively dog on a lead. I wonder if Bruce was found with his lead on or off.

Just a few musings.

I had a thought as to why she might turn off recording the walk at that point. I thought maybe she’d regularly go to an establishment to get a cup of coffee to enjoy, while taking a short break. But then I didn’t see any place that’d be open at 6:00 AM.

There is a place called The Bull that seems near that intersection, but it looks like they wouldn’t have opened until 10 AM. Interestingly, it looks to be a place that has a regular walking group that meets there. They probably walk on much of the same ground for their group walks that Anita did.
JMO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831271824950263811

From my earlier post

The guy in blue seems to wear 2 different pairs of shoes.

Also his figure is slightly different.

2 different days I guess.

JMO

 

[Parker Knoll]

Not a springer owner but a cocker - that’s a LOT of walking.

 

[CocktailQueen]

I have an Apple Watch (not sure if this is the exercise tracker she was using) if I have it set to walk it tracks to location of the walk and it drains the battery. So if I was doing multiple walks in a day and did not have time to put it on charge then I would limit the amount of time the watch is set to track the walks. It will still record any steps but not drain the battery as much. So maybe that is why she stopped the tracker after an hour every day.

 

[slowpoke]

I was just reading of what feels like a very similar story which happened in another part of the UK (Leicestershire), where an 80-year-old man walking his dog was attacked, and subsequently died of his injuries. (Link to article)

In this man’s instance, it appears a young 14 yo teen may be the attacker! It says he had been harassed before, with kids throwing stones at him. It’s unclear to me how he was attacked this last, fatal time.

 

[elliefant]

I was just reading of what feels like a very similar story which happened in another part of the UK (Leicestershire), where an 80-year-old man walking his dog was attacked, and subsequently died of his injuries. (Link to article)

In this man’s instance, it appears a young 14 yo teen may be the attacker! It says he had been harassed before, with kids throwing stones at him. It’s unclear to me how he was attacked this last, fatal time.

His thread on here:

Three children and two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of an 80-year-old man. Leicestershire, UK.

Three children and two teenagers arrested over murder of 80-year-old in park Three children and two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of an 80-year-old man. The victim, who was walking his dog in Franklin Park, Leicestershire, was seriously assaulted on Sunday and died in hospital...

www.websleuths.com

 

[slowpoke]

I keep checking for updates on Anita’s case, and here is the latest.

One of the two potential witnesses (not a suspect) has been located and is cooperating with LE. The second gentleman has yet to be located, and they would still like to find and speak with him—again emphasizing he is not a suspect.

It says that today (Sept 13) locals will notice an increased police presence as they are going door to door for inquiries.

https://www.suffolk.police.uk/news/suffolk/news/news/2024/july/brantham-murder-investigation--one-potential-witness-identified-following-cctv-appeal/

 

[Dotta]

"An inquest
has opened into the death of mum-of-six
and suspected murder victim Anita Rose."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1834839394622280123

 

[slowpoke]

Is opening an inquest a standard procedure? What is its purpose?

Why do you suppose the “provisional cause of death is a traumatic head injury, pending further investigation”?

It’s been reported from the beginning that she suffered serious head injuries yet up til now it was reported that the post-mortem examination was unable to establish a cause of death. What might be the conundrum, that they cannot definitively say it was due to her head injuries?

 

[Kittypoo]

Is opening an inquest a standard procedure? What is its purpose?

Why do you suppose the “provisional cause of death is a traumatic head injury, pending further investigation”?

It’s been reported from the beginning that she suffered serious head injuries yet up til now it was reported that the post-mortem examination was unable to establish a cause of death. What might be the conundrum, that they cannot definitively say it was due to her head injuries?

There is an inquest if the death is unexpected and there has been no cause of death established. ie she was young and presumably healthy prior.
They know she has a head injury but do not know who or what has caused it so far? JMO
RIP

 

[slowpoke]

There is an inquest if the death is unexpected and there has been no cause of death established. ie she was young and presumably healthy prior.
They know she has a head injury but do not know who or what has caused it so far? JMO
RIP

I had thought the who or what caused her injuries would fall under maybe more to manner of death, not cause of death. But maybe they mean to combine cause and manner? I get confused.

Just looked up the difference, and it’s described as:
(Link)

• Cause of death: natural disease or injury that led to physiologic changes resulting in death
  
  • Acute event (e.g., motor vehicle collision, gunshot wound to the head, sudden death in previously healthy individuals)
  • Chronic event (e.g., complications related to atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, malignancy, etc.)
• Manner of death: circumstances surrounding death (how the death came about / how the injury or disease leads to death)
  
  • Mainly based on scene investigation, interviews with next of kin, review of medical history / records, autopsy and ancillary studies (studies (toxicology, histopathology, vitreous chemistry, microbiology, etc.)