AR AR - Whitehall Motel in El Dorado, WhtFem, 81UFAR, 18-21, Jul'91 - #2 - Kelly from VA

[Danaya]

I have been following this case for years. I believe it is entirely solvable and there are certainly people who would recognize her. However, I think the people who can identify her do not browse these forums like we do. I also think they're probably older now, maybe in their forties and fifties. She obviously didn't come from Arkansas or this would have been solved. I agree that it is entirely possible she traveled from California. I do not believe she was ever reported missing as I have scoured missing persons reports within a 10 year time frame, all over the USA, looking for her.

I think that if we were to create some sort of campaign, we could find her identity. For instance, even if this aired on something like 48 hours, I really believe it would be solved. I think that e-mailing crime shows, such as 48 hours would help. I also think using social media would help. Facebook hasn't been much help, though. I joined various Little Rock FB groups and posted her photo but no reply. Her photo is also on various missing persons groups, but again, people who know her would not be looking around missing persons groups anyways.

I also followed up on a YouTube comment tip which said she looked like someone who went to Hanna high school. I joined the class reunion group, posted her pic... nothing. We need to go bigger. I think of Grateful Doe and how long it took for Jason to get his name back. It was all because of Tumblr. We just need to get her photo out there and get a lucky break. Someone out there knows her and this is recent enough that these people would still be alive and using the internet.

 

[sloane7777]

I think they already know and didn't like her lifestyle , there was a call per Cathy the det. on the case, wanting to know details and James said that was her family. I believe that part, and they don't want to be identified, I believe that part too, that's something he has always been consistent about , there are always bits of truth in every lie, I 100 percent believe it.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

I think they already know and didn't like her lifestyle , there was a call per Cathy the det. on the case, wanting to know details and James said that was her family. I believe that part, and they don't want to be identified, I believe that part too, that's something he has always been consistent about , there are always bits of truth in every lie, I 100 percent believe it.

There was an unknown caller that contacted Cathy asking details about the case ? Assume that was confirmed with Cathy since you actually can't always believe what James said. Do totally agree with you that there is some truth in every lie. He said on a couple of occasions her family did not approve of her lifestyle. If they did not why did they make a trip to see her ? That is another gray area one comment was they came by bus from Florida to visit her then another statement was he took her to see them in Calif? Another note was that her family convicted him "james" along time ago. With that being said because the family did not approve of him ... he holds resentment to them .. he could be playing out this in many ways to be deceitful of their dis-approval and very possibly manipulated her mind against her own family that they did not care about her.

Just a note I do believe someone that is telling the truth and that is James niece that commented EDJD and James had been in Florida

 

[folieadeuxnola]

I have been following this case for years. I believe it is entirely solvable and there are certainly people who would recognize her. However, I think the people who can identify her do not browse these forums like we do. I also think they're probably older now, maybe in their forties and fifties. She obviously didn't come from Arkansas or this would have been solved. I agree that it is entirely possible she traveled from California. I do not believe she was ever reported missing as I have scoured missing persons reports within a 10 year time frame, all over the USA, looking for her.

I think that if we were to create some sort of campaign, we could find her identity. For instance, even if this aired on something like 48 hours, I really believe it would be solved. I think that e-mailing crime shows, such as 48 hours would help. I also think using social media would help. Facebook hasn't been much help, though. I joined various Little Rock FB groups and posted her photo but no reply. Her photo is also on various missing persons groups, but again, people who know her would not be looking around missing persons groups anyways.

I also followed up on a YouTube comment tip which said she looked like someone who went to Hanna high school. I joined the class reunion group, posted her pic... nothing. We need to go bigger. I think of Grateful Doe and how long it took for Jason to get his name back. It was all because of Tumblr. We just need to get her photo out there and get a lucky break. Someone out there knows her and this is recent enough that these people would still be alive and using the internet.

Danaya I recall that comment, was this the one inregards to a nickname of "Big Bird" ?

You are 100% correct so very sovable it is amazing that there are so many clues on this JD more than 90% of the others and yet the dots have yet to be connected ... There is hope .... just like Sharon Marshal

 

[folieadeuxnola]

You're correct, and thank you. I am in the northern part of the North Island so we weren't affected but I do know a lot of people in Wellington which is one of the majorly affected places and it's certainly been a tough time for them. Thanks for your concern.

Your welcome!! Glad you safe from harm and congrats on the soon to be little one.

 

[sloane7777]

There was an unknown caller that contacted Cathy asking details about the case ? Assume that was confirmed with Cathy since you actually can't always believe what James said. Do totally agree with you that there is some truth in every lie. He said on a couple of occasions her family did not approve of her lifestyle. If they did not why did they make a trip to see her ? That is another gray area one comment was they came by bus from Florida to visit her then another statement was he took her to see them in Calif? Another note was that her family convicted him "james" along time ago. With that being said because the family did not approve of him ... he holds resentment to them .. he could be playing out this in many ways to be deceitful of their dis-approval and very possibly manipulated her mind against her own family that they did not care about her.

Just a note I do believe someone that is telling the truth and that is James niece that commented EDJD and James had been in Florida[/Q

Yes it was stated by the det, in the beginning of this thread, there was a phone call. Remember James neice was a child at the time around 6 or 7 years old .

 

[sloane7777]

oh and yes she was in flordia but not w james ...w tyrone

 

[greenfingers]

has anyone looked at tammy rose surdam,she is missing since 1979 age 12 years height is within the range blonde hair blue eyes

 

[sunnynz]

has anyone looked at tammy rose surdam,she is missing since 1979 age 12 years height is within the range blonde hair blue eyes

I can see the similarities (although lips look to be a different shape) but given they both have DNA entered, would they not have matched them already? She's not listed as a rule out on EJDJ's namus though... Might be worth looking into the details of Tammy's case some more to see if you can find anything else to support a match.

 

[sunnynz]

So EJDJ's namus was just updated on the 24th of last month - I can't see what the new info is, maybe a new rule out added?

 

[Jake479]

has anyone looked at tammy rose surdam,she is missing since 1979 age 12 years height is within the range blonde hair blue eyes

I submitted this match to Doe Network and NAMUS a while back. I don't know if they ever followed up on it though.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Last I recall Tammy at one time was being connected to a child rapist. Her family is looking for her thou


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[folieadeuxnola]

Sloane we have danced around or more like tiptoed on this The possible family connection in TX have you done a genealogy on them .? Recall you wanted to venture down this avenue a bit.


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[sloane7777]

sloane we have danced around or more like tiptoed on this the possible family connection in tx have you done a genealogy on them .? Recall you wanted to venture down this avenue a bit.



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yes sorry for short answers but it wont let me type emilove was going to try that there is a country singet t.s. The stenner name spelled a little differently take a look at that face sry this took me 20 min to type lol

 

[sloane7777]

Can i say his name or no

 

[Roselvr]

If I get a chance to do this later today I will email the school - thanks for the tips. I am due to go into labour any day now so if you don't hear back from me that's why!

* Ok I have emailed the high school to ask them for a pic. Will keep you posted.

Good luck with your delivery

I have been following this case for years. I believe it is entirely solvable and there are certainly people who would recognize her. However, I think the people who can identify her do not browse these forums like we do. I also think they're probably older now, maybe in their forties and fifties. She obviously didn't come from Arkansas or this would have been solved. I agree that it is entirely possible she traveled from California. I do not believe she was ever reported missing as I have scoured missing persons reports within a 10 year time frame, all over the USA, looking for her.

I think that if we were to create some sort of campaign, we could find her identity. For instance, even if this aired on something like 48 hours, I really believe it would be solved. I think that e-mailing crime shows, such as 48 hours would help. I also think using social media would help. Facebook hasn't been much help, though. I joined various Little Rock FB groups and posted her photo but no reply. Her photo is also on various missing persons groups, but again, people who know her would not be looking around missing persons groups anyways.

I also followed up on a YouTube comment tip which said she looked like someone who went to Hanna high school. I joined the class reunion group, posted her pic... nothing. We need to go bigger. I think of Grateful Doe and how long it took for Jason to get his name back. It was all because of Tumblr. We just need to get her photo out there and get a lucky break. Someone out there knows her and this is recent enough that these people would still be alive and using the internet.

Jason got his name back because greymetal got a lead on Imgur, Greymetal and I then did a social media push here on WS where a bunch of us were doing various sites, Imgur, FB, Reddit; SC news picked the story up, that was all she wrote. Was crazy luck his friend happened to catch it

 

[folieadeuxnola]

yes sorry for short answers but it wont let me type emilove was going to try that there is a country singet t.s. The stenner name spelled a little differently take a look at that face sry this took me 20 min to type lol

Believe I know where you are going ...have looked around but yet to find a true link connection and yes I too have had various issues with the forum since the update ...

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Just pulling up a few quotes from the Huffington Article

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/eldorado-jane-doe_us_56e6d679e4b0b25c918276a3

“I met Mercedes at a club and we became friends,” Cooksey told HuffPost. “She said that she used to be a stripper and was from out of town. She told me her and her mother didn’t get along and that her momma was raising her two kids. I know she had said the one was a girl, but I can’t remember what she said the other one was.

The only thing he would tell detectives was that he had once met Mercedes’ mother and sister. He said they lived in Florida, but refused to provide names

knew Mercedes by names other than Wick, including Cheryl Kaufman, Shannon Wiley, Sharon Wiley, Kelly Lee Carr and Kelly Karr. McAlphin told HuffPost she also used the name Helen Stenner and once told him she was from Oklahoma.

“When he brought her to my grandma’s house, he said they had been in Florida,” Danielle McAlphin told HuffPost.

Police learned Mercedes had once worked as an exotic dancer in Dallas — where she first met McAlphin.

According to Phillips, she told the volunteer she once lived at 1100 Cadiz St. in Dallas — an address that corresponds to the Dallas LIFE Homeless Shelter. “She told the lady that when she was there, a child had been taken away from her by social services and that when the child was taken from her, she was using another name, so she could not go get the child back,” volunteer at the Salvation Army in El Dorado,

McAlphin said Mercedes was older than him — he said he was 26 when they met — and she had two children she left with “someone” in Fort Worth, Texas.

JD is Mercedes’ former pimp, Jeffrey “JJ” Davis, of Dallas, Phillips said. Tyrone, detectives believe, was Mercedes’ pimp in Florida. Investigators have been unable to locate him.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

http://eldoradojanedoe.wix.com/home#!pictures/photostackergallery1=1

1991 early
Lives briefly in Shreveport, Louisiana, with James McAlphin, who later says that while there, Jane Doe's mother and sister came to visit by bus from Florida, and stayed for a few days.

http://pilotonline.com/news/local/c...cle_bce69128-710b-5553-8118-06de98fa1454.html

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Here are the letters between David and James, you can view them however require an account to download their very faint to read but you can make out most of them.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/30466842...&source=impactradius&medium=affiliate&irgwc=1