Argentina - Loan Peña, 5, went orange pick w/fam, shoe found, local police chief arrested, as well as others, Nueve de Julio, 13 Jun 2024

[MiniMoo]

"Indeed, the PFA laboratory managed to sequence a mixed nuclear DNA profile corresponding to a male human being, which is suitable for comparison, based on the results of the study carried out on eight samples taken from the Ford Ranger vehicle - belonging to the accused Carlos Pérez and María Victoria Caillava - with a swab on the surfaces that had tested positive for the luminol test, which is used to detect blood stains.

However, the Public Prosecutor's Office reported that this result does not allow us to conclude that the origin of this DNA trace comes from a blood stain, or from a trace caused by contact or another type of fluid on the same surface.

In this context, the Forensic Medical Institute of the TSJ of Corrientes was required to carry out complementary analyses of that sample."

OKAY, color me confused....are they saying [bbm] the result of the DNA profile found on the Ford Ranger is NOT Loan's?
OR that the blood samples are not adequate somehow?

Seems, and I could be understanding it wrong, that the blood isn't through direct contact (contact on the same surface) with the vehicle like a person being hit by it.

It is how it is translated maybe.

 

[Ladyotm]

"Indeed, the PFA laboratory managed to sequence a mixed nuclear DNA profile corresponding to a male human being, which is suitable for comparison, based on the results of the study carried out on eight samples taken from the Ford Ranger vehicle - belonging to the accused Carlos Pérez and María Victoria Caillava - with a swab on the surfaces that had tested positive for the luminol test, which is used to detect blood stains.

However, the Public Prosecutor's Office reported that this result does not allow us to conclude that the origin of this DNA trace comes from a blood stain, or from a trace caused by contact or another type of fluid on the same surface.

In this context, the Forensic Medical Institute of the TSJ of Corrientes was required to carry out complementary analyses of that sample."

OKAY, color me confused....are they saying [bbm] the result of the DNA profile found on the Ford Ranger is NOT Loan's?
OR that the blood samples are not adequate somehow?

Could the blood have been planted (wiped there)?
And belong to one of the supposed conspirators or could it be the blood of some other male who has nothing to do with this case...by the way that has many layers.

 

[FansBlowing]

The known liar here is Laudelina. It's been my experience that when a person points the finger at another person (Carlos and Callaiva), that in actuality they themselves are the guilty party. Another theory could be that Macarena or her sister were messing around in the truck (who takes a nap at another person's house anyways?) and released the brake or something and ran over Loan. Macarena then called mom for help and together they concealed the body.

 

[FansBlowing]

Here Camila says there was a blanket where the boys were sitting next to Ramirez's car. What car is this?

She also said that "the boys stretched out a blanket a few meters from where the vehicle in which (Daniel) Ramírez , Millapi's partner, was traveling was parked."

https://www.cronica.com.ar/policiales/Desaparicion-de-Loan-salio-Camila-luego-de-declarar-20240704-0172.html

 

[FansBlowing]

Macarena was 21 years old. Old enough to drive. Maybe she got in this car and was going to transport oranges, but ran Loan over instead.

"The investigations were carried out on a dark grey Volkswagen Voyage and a motorcycle belonging to Antonio Benítez, uncle of the missing minor and husband of Laudelina Peña."

Caso Loan: los nuevos indicios que encontraron en el auto de Mónica Millapi y Daniel Ramírez y podrían cambiar el eje de la investigación

Mónica Millapi y Daniel Ramírez son dos de los detenidos en el marco de la investigación de la desaparición de Loan Danilo Peña. Los detalles del peritaje.

la100.cienradios.com

 

[FansBlowing]

• Vehicle No. 3: Grey Volkswagen Voyage (license plate OKV605). Trunk interior: luminescence on the carpet, collected for analysis. Passenger compartment: positive result on the right rear seat. A white cloth with luminescence was also found on the driver's seat.

Caso Loan: una por una, las fotos de las manchas que encontraron en la camioneta de Caillava y Pérez | TN

Las pericias fueron realizadas el 23 de junio por la fiscalía de Corrientes sobre la Ford Ranger blanca y el Ford Ka rojo.

tn.com.ar

 

[FansBlowing]

Also, where was Macarena and her sister supposedly taking their nap? In this Volkswagen car?

 

[thelesis]

Personally, I'm wary of any claims of human sacrifices or religious zealotry, especially in cultures seen as 'exotic' to North Americans. We don't try to link every murder of a missing woman in Massachusetts to the Salem witch trials. Can you imagine a forum where people in China are claiming missing Americans were actually abducted by Native Americans and scalped for trophies, then their bodies hidden?

edit: I'm not so good at geography lol

 

[azure]

Personally, I'm wary of any claims of human sacrifices or religious zealotry, especially in cultures seen as 'exotic' to North Americans. We don't try to link every murder of a missing woman in Massachusetts to the Salem witch trials. Can you imagine a forum where people in China are claiming missing Americans were actually abducted by Native Americans and scalped for trophies, then their bodies hidden?

edit: I'm not so good at geography lol

The one difference being that these wild theories are being shared by people in the same country as the missing boy. But I am completely skeptical of the wild theories as well.

ETA: I think? Now I can't tell if the sacrifice theory was in a news article or was thought of here.

 

[FansBlowing]

The police were doing luminal tests on the church next door to Commissioner Maciel's house. The only reason to look for blood in a church would be to see if there were sacrifices done there. The investigators are just ruling everything out and following all theories.

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

I was not trying to promote the sacrifice theory; I was sharing some facts I had learned through a class I took on sacrifice. One of the case studies we explored was Incan sacrifice within the area where Loan went missing. When you take an anthropological view, there is little exotic about beliefs and customs.
ETA: grammar

 

[MiniMoo]

The one difference being that these wild theories are being shared by people in the same country as the missing boy. But I am completely skeptical of the wild theories as well.

ETA: I think? Now I can't tell if the sacrifice theory was in a news article or was thought of here.

News article and not just one.

The link for one is back not too far in the posts regarding a lawyer's concern and the grandmother.

Take a look under or inside "8."

 

[MiniMoo]

I was not trying to promote the sacrifice theory; I was sharing some facts I had learned through a class I took on sacrifice. One of the case studies we explored was Incan sacrifice within the area where Loan went missing. When you take an anthropological view, there is little exotic about beliefs and customs.
ETA: grammar

I opened up that link you inserted about those sacrificed Inca children and read it and I also looked for more on the Ramoncito case 2006.

Nothing alike - very different.

With the Inca children they were fed protein prior to death and didn't seem to be harshly treated except maybe the boy and it was a ritual they carried out for good crops and the likes. It seems to have been accepted 500 years ago where children were selected from birth as to whether they would be sacrificed or not.

Whereas with the Ramoncito case that involved a group of very twisted sick individuals that tortured that poor boy beyond torture for messed up beliefs and reasons.

Disturbing is an understatement!

As for this case - the sacrifice theory seems to have started a week or two after Loan Pena disappeared reported by the media.

 

[MiniMoo]

The known liar here is Laudelina. It's been my experience that when a person points the finger at another person (Carlos and Callaiva), that in actuality they themselves are the guilty party. Another theory could be that Macarena or her sister were messing around in the truck (who takes a nap at another person's house anyways?) and released the brake or something and ran over Loan. Macarena then called mom for help and together they concealed the body.

I'm sure the truth will be unravelled soon enough, but until then I don't feel anyone should be classed as innocent.

 

[FansBlowing]

Fernando Burlando requested the immediate arrest of José Codazzi after Loan's aunt fired him.
Sources in the case confirmed to Noticias Argentinas that the request made by Burlando is due to public accusations against him for bribery and threats.

Before this decision was announced, the woman decided to fire him and it is expected that in the next few hours the media lawyer, Mónica Graciela Chirivin, will take up her defense.

This is due to alleged bribes by Codazzi so that the woman, detained in Ezeiza, would testify about the accident.

In this sense, it was Macarena, Laudelina's daughter, who stated that her mother testified under threat and that she was being coached the whole time.

Caso Loan: pidieron la detención de Codazzi, el ex abogado de Laudelina

Fernando Burlando solicitó la inmediata detención de José Codazzi luego de que la tía de Loan lo haya despedido.

eltribunodejujuy.com

 

[FansBlowing]

In the midst of the search for Loan Danilo Peña , Fernando Burlando announced that he will add a dog that detects human remains and will search new places after reporting a new discovery. In this regard, he made a strong complaint and criticized the judge who is handling the case.

The lawyer for Loan's family, Danilo Peña, announced in a press conference: " We are going to go to places where there was no search ." This includes from the end of the field near the house of Catalina, the grandmother of the missing child, to Route 12.

In this regard, Fernando Burlando commented that there, “one of the locals found fecal matter and oranges around, he told the police and that was it.” After this, he criticized that “the search was conspicuous.”

Encontraron nuevas y dramáticas pruebas sobre dónde habría estado Loan tras su desaparición y Fernando Burlando tiró un bombazo: "Vamos a ir"

En medio de la búsqueda de Loan Danilo Peña, Fernando Burlando anunció que sumará una perra que detecta restos humanos y rastrillará nuevos lugares tras un nuevo hallazgo.

radiomitre.cienradios.com

 

[FansBlowing]

Look like they are suspecting Loan has just been lost all this time surviving on oranges for almost a month now!

 

[Allabouttrial]

Look like they are suspecting Loan has just been lost all this time surviving on oranges for almost a month now!

No, that's what I thought at first when I started watching a news report. They're searching a field that leads onto Route 12 because they've found another old tapas bar where they believe Loan was placed by Benitez. From there they believe he was picked up on horseback by another individual.

I'll be glad when all the evidence in the "secret file" is made public. So much conjecture at this point.

 

[LeahBee]

I want to follow this case so bad but my brain hurts trying to keep track of names/relationships/stories/theories/ conspiracies, etc.
Even if new evidence comes out about what happened to Loan, how are we supposed to trust it??

 

[FansBlowing]

Look how cute. A toy accordion.