Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead

[LadyL]

There is something strange about this photo. The two older girls have adult eyes.

I thought so too
and clenched jaws

 

[LadyL]

And him being back in the home, where the little girls cannot feel safe, physically or emotionally, is due to her. Otherwise he'd be in jail. She could tell him to leave. Instead she stopped working herself (how is that sustainable?!) and BOTH have pressured young grieving kids to lie to LE about the murder of their baby sister. It cannot be lost on the girls that they are NOT SAFE NOW. She's more than complicit, she got him released to the home and she has also witness tampered instead of protecting the remaining very young kids. JMOOO.

well I sure don't think she should be working right now and I would not want to be a patient under her care during this time

 

[al66pine]

ES. Tattoos? Lip Piercing?
Not that it actually matters. Not judging, just wondering.
Various pix show part of her upper arm sleeves, tho I can’t tell what they are. Anyone? Being ancient myself, I don’t have a handle on whether this is unusual for her age, professional status, etc. Anyone?

At DailyMail slideshow pic 6 of 10* w ES & CS at dock, water in background, I noticed what may be a skin tag or lesion above her left upper lip. Or a stud or gem inserted in a piercing there???
Trying to find name for this, had to search. A “Monroe" piercing? As in Marilyn.
In headshot of ES in white coat in slideshow, piercing not visible to me.

* July 12 article w 15-pix slideshow

Dad charged with MURDER after leaving his daughter in a hot car

Parker Scholtes, 2, died after she was rushed to hospital in Tucson, Arizona, after her father Chris Scholtes, 37, found her unresponsive in his car outside their home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

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BTW Lip piercing - Wikipedia
^ In wiki pix: “Some piercings are called bites: Angel bites; Cyber bites, Spider bites, Snake bites, Vampire bites Canine bites.
"urbanbodyjewelry" & "lip-labret-piercing-information” Shark bites & Dolphin bites.
Oh, the things we learn from going down WS rabbit holes.

 

[shesfixingherhair]

Her tattoos are the least remarkable thing about this case, honestly.

I’m about her age and work in a professional setting. Several times, I have been the only person on a team without tattoos!

 

[al66pine]

Her tattoos are the least remarkable thing about this case, honestly.

@shesfixingherhair Thx for your post.

Absolutely true.

 

[scapa]

ES. Tattoos? Lip Piercing?
Not that it actually matters. Not judging, just wondering.
Various pix show part of her upper arm sleeves, tho I can’t tell what they are. Anyone? Being ancient myself, I don’t have a handle on whether this is unusual for her age, professional status, etc. Anyone?

At DailyMail slideshow pic 6 of 10* w ES & CS at dock, water in background, I noticed what may be a skin tag or lesion above her left upper lip. Or a stud or gem inserted in a piercing there???
Trying to find name for this, had to search. A “Monroe" piercing? As in Marilyn.
In headshot of ES in white coat in slideshow, piercing not visible to me.

* July 12 article w 15-pix slideshow

Dad charged with MURDER after leaving his daughter in a hot car

Parker Scholtes, 2, died after she was rushed to hospital in Tucson, Arizona, after her father Chris Scholtes, 37, found her unresponsive in his car outside their home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

____________________________________
BTW Lip piercing - Wikipedia
^ In wiki pix: “Some piercings are called bites: Angel bites; Cyber bites, Spider bites, Snake bites, Vampire bites Canine bites.
"urbanbodyjewelry" & "lip-labret-piercing-information” Shark bites & Dolphin bites.
Oh, the things we learn from going down WS rabbit holes.

Haven't checked the pix you reference, but on the odd (and few) occasions where a patient has commented on my ink, I have reminded them that an orthopod is made, not born... It's not something I'd notice on a team member at this point, and I'm over 40.

So, would not surprise me either way, though there aew variations across work environments, of course.

Agree that the next court date will be telling. Would not be surprised to see him remanded based on upgraded charges, and would view that as the best outcome pending trial. IMO.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

100%! Only one person stood between the children’s safety and a serial abuser and that was the mother. Being the breadwinner and working long hours (if that was the case) doesn’t excuse choosing to allow the abuse to continue. Her child died and no amount of texting can change that.

According to the mother he drove drunk with the kids in the car! 138 mph! Take the damn car away, put him in rehab, hire a responsible caregiver, anything except turning a blind eye to his behavior.

I sure as heck don’t want this buffoon on any street I’m driving. He’s a menace to me and my loved ones. Neither parent gets a “Well they’ve suffered enough” excuse from me. Put him in jail and require her to attend parenting classes. All MOO.

ETA link:

On March 11 in one message Erika writes:

“You haven’t shown you can stop putting the girls in danger or treating me badly. Even yesterday you drove home drunk with two minors. You drink to excess every time. I have been asking for three years for you to cut back but it's actually gotten worse.”

On March 21st she wrote: “Why were you going 138 with our baby in the car with alcohol in your system?

New information released on death of two-year-old Marana girl left in hot car

TUCSON, Ariz. (KVOA) — New information on the death of a two-year-old Marana girl left in a hot car.

www.kvoa.com

I wonder how she knew @ alcohol in his system?

 

[threesevenninefour]

I wonder how she knew @ alcohol in his system?

I’ve been wondering this, as well…maybe they had been somewhere together earlier and she had witnessed him drinking? I hope not, as it would be absolutely unimaginable that she still allowed him to drive somewhere with their child in the car after that.

Or maybe they had video surveillance in their house and she was reviewing footage and saw him drinking something? I did find it interesting that early reports said that LE took a “cup” from the house as evidence—while many people do like to pour their beer into glasses instead of drinking straight from the can/bottle, it seems like another way for him to plausibly deny any drinking to his wife if she *did* have access to video footage of any kind from inside the house.

MOO.

 

[mickey2942]

Her tattoos are the least remarkable thing about this case, honestly.

I’m about her age and work in a professional setting. Several times, I have been the only person on a team without tattoos!

OT: and I thought that I was the only one left without tats.

 

[Tricia]

Hi Everyone.
I appreciate you sharing your heart-wrenching stories of abuse. You are so brave.
Please understand that we need to please keep on topic. I left a few conversations up because they offered an interesting look into dealing with an abuser. However, we need to keep on topic.
Thank you
Tricia

 

[Herat]

ES. Tattoos? Lip Piercing?
Not that it actually matters. Not judging, just wondering.
Various pix show part of her upper arm sleeves, tho I can’t tell what they are. Anyone? Being ancient myself, I don’t have a handle on whether this is unusual for her age, professional status, etc. Anyone?

At DailyMail slideshow pic 6 of 10* w ES & CS at dock, water in background, I noticed what may be a skin tag or lesion above her left upper lip. Or a stud or gem inserted in a piercing there???
Trying to find name for this, had to search. A “Monroe" piercing? As in Marilyn.
In headshot of ES in white coat in slideshow, piercing not visible to me.

* July 12 article w 15-pix slideshow

Dad charged with MURDER after leaving his daughter in a hot car

Parker Scholtes, 2, died after she was rushed to hospital in Tucson, Arizona, after her father Chris Scholtes, 37, found her unresponsive in his car outside their home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

____________________________________
BTW Lip piercing - Wikipedia
^ In wiki pix: “Some piercings are called bites: Angel bites; Cyber bites, Spider bites, Snake bites, Vampire bites Canine bites.
"urbanbodyjewelry" & "lip-labret-piercing-information” Shark bites & Dolphin bites.
Oh, the things we learn from going down WS rabbit holes.

Hospitals often have personal appearance / dress codes for those that interact with the public. Facial piercings may also be banned in an OR situation where sterility is important, especially if they are such that they are not covered by a mask, such as eyebrow piercings.

I just think they are unhygienic, especially on the face.

 

[Angelcat13]

Her tattoos are the least remarkable thing about this case, honestly.

I’m about her age and work in a professional setting. Several times, I have been the only person on a team without tattoos!

100% agree! I don’t have any tattoos, but I’ve wanted to get one for my son (3/28/82 - 8/25/15) but haven’t been able to decide on a design.

So I agree, I don’t judge her if she has tattoos, but I would be interested in knowing if there is any significance to the tattoos.

 

[al66pine]

Significance of Tattoos?

100% agree! I don’t have any tattoos, but I’ve wanted to get one for my son (3/28/82 - 8/25/15) but haven’t been able to decide on a design.
So I agree, I don’t judge her if she has tattoos, but I would be interested in knowing if there is any significance to the tattoos.

@Angelcat13
So sorry about your son. Must be absolutely devastating.

Yes, you asked what I was actually wondering about.
What do the tat images on ES' arms DEPICT?

What is the SIGNIFICANCE? Seems like there must be some. imo
Quick, easy, relatively inexpensive to get a postage-stamp sized tat. Can do w relatively little thought. Some ppl on impulse, say after a pub crawl or other night out.
Does anyone get SLEEVES w dark bold pattern (even "just" upper arms) without thinking it over thoroughly?

 

[Herat]

100% agree! I don’t have any tattoos, but I’ve wanted to get one for my son (3/28/82 - 8/25/15) but haven’t been able to decide on a design.

So I agree, I don’t judge her if she has tattoos, but I would be interested in knowing if there is any significance to the tattoos.

My impression was that ES and CS seem to have very similar tattoos. Judging from only two photos, she has them from shoulder to elbow on both arms. Large, complex, well-done and probably expensive. Not sure how to best describe them in tattoo jargon. I can only see his right arm in the photo with the newborn and his is also shoulder to elbow. I can't see his left arm so I don't know if his are bilateral.

 

[katydid23]

So, I don't know what to think about LEO taking the drink off of the table. Was CS tested for being past the legal limit? He was at his own home.

How many people have a beer or glass of wine while taking care of their kids? If the child dies, do you get charged with...not sure, drinking while at home with kids?

Having a beer while you are home with your kids is fine. But having 5 beers is not OK when you have very young kids in your care. They may have taken pictures of the trash and seen several empty beer cans and investigated whether he bought a 6 pack earlier that day.

 

[Angleterre]

I bet many here have had a similar relationship, and you are right. It takes so much strength to outright end it, and yet you have so little strength left, after having given endlessly, for the length of the relationship, while receiving nothing "real" in return. And she would have still been in shock when she spoke to the judge.

It is nice to see compassionate words like yours, though I also see the other side. Because they all need real safety now, above anything else.

You are so right about this, both the sadness of the child’s death and the relationship aspect. It affects so many people and as you say, it takes strength to outright end it.

 

[Angleterre]

So, I don't know what to think about LEO taking the drink off of the table. Was CS tested for being past the legal limit? He was at his own home.

How many people have a beer or glass of wine while taking care of their kids? If the child dies, do you get charged with...not sure, drinking while at home with kids?

In the U.K. you would be prosecuted for Aggravated Child Abuse and Neglect with the aggravated part being the alcohol and the abuse and neglect being the child left in the car for so long on that basis if the child hadn’t died but if the child died as in this case, it would depend upon what is proven as to wether it is charged as murder or manslaughter.It would probably be charged as murder in the alternative with manslaughter to fall back on

 

[Herat]

Having a beer while you are home with your kids is fine. But having 5 beers is not OK when you have very young kids in your care. They may have taken pictures of the trash and seen several empty beer cans and investigated whether he bought a 6 pack earlier that day.

It seems so strange that he would, reportedly, walk off with a case of beer and go into the bathroom rather than a six-pack. A case is 24 beers. And heavy, and I’d thing cumbersome to carry into gas station restroom. I think he’d have to leave the box and the empties in the room and the clerk would have found it.

And how many beers would he have drunk? Certainly not 24. Sure, 2-3, but maybe he could slam down 5, taking a sixth with him. Makes more sense to me that he grabbed a 6-pack.

 

[duckduck]

It seems so strange that he would, reportedly, walk off with a case of beer and go into the bathroom rather than a six-pack. A case is 24 beers. And heavy, and I’d thing cumbersome to carry into gas station restroom. I think he’d have to leave the box and the empties in the room and the clerk would have found it.

And how many beers would he have drunk? Certainly not 24. Sure, 2-3, but maybe he could slam down 5, taking a sixth with him. Makes more sense to me that he grabbed a 6-pack.

I think the confusion comes from this newscast. The reporter reads through some of the documents they obtained while showing the documents on screen. At around the 3:25 mark, you can see where the document says that CS selected 3 cans of beer from the cooler, but the reporter read it as a case.

 

[threesevenninefour]

I think the confusion comes from this newscast. The reporter reads through some of the documents they obtained while showing the documents on screen. At around the 3:25 mark, you can see where the document says that CS selected 3 cans of beer from the cooler, but the reporter read it as a case.

Wow, actually reading the documents—I thought it couldn’t get worse.

The middle daughter telling a story about how CS once left her in the car and she had to scream “Daddy, Daddy!” at him through the window to get him to come back.

The middle daughter basically confirming that CS was playing video games from when they arrived home, besides when he made her a sandwich, shortly before ES arrived home.

A bizarre text exchange between CS and ES joking about naming a “beautiful white baby” an “African name.”

But, yes, very confusing about the amount of beer. I’ve been reading everywhere that it was a “case” but the actual documents seem to indicate it was just 3 beers that he took from the cooler and actually exited the store with just one. It’s possible he consumed them in the bathroom, but he could have also hidden them somewhere on his person to consume when he got home IMO.