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Hey all, I've updated the timeline again based on feedback.
NOTE: This timeline contains mainly established facts, but also potential suppositions and leads. I have qualified suppositions and leads with words such as "allegedly" or "claimed" or "there is some evidence that..."
In all cases, I've attempted to systematically document any facts, assertions, or suppositions with sources and links so people can verify.
Based on feedback, I've removed some entries concerning "Beavis Butthead" (such as comparisons between BB and the DataLounge troll), and focused mainly on facts concerning BB. Though BB may just be a troll, he has come up often in discussions-- and was accused in MSM that he may be BB-- so I think it's worthwhile to at least have the fact established he is not LRM (despite what some media outlets have erroneously reported).
Of course, I welcome any feedback and will repost to the non-discussion thread.
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TIMELINE
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2007 - LRM allegedly involved in flame wars on YouTube. There is some evidence that LRM already has many sockpuppets on YouTube and that his main YouTube account "lukamagnotta1" is suspended for abuse of TOS.
Evidence of these YouTube flame wars come from, among other things, from videos that other people made in response to LRM's abusive actions.
"Mega Man 999 Mega Man II" found on this YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LtGradient - mocks LRM's use of "Megaman999Megaman" sockpuppet accounts as well as his hatred of homeless people.
"Goodbye lukamagnotta1" - found here: http://www.youtube.com/user/bloglops - celebrates that LRM's main YouTube account has been suspended.
Also, the dossier compiled by Animal Rights activists pursuing LRM documents some evidence of these early YouTube disputes:
See: http://www.abproject.org/docs/Kitten Killer 2010 - 2011.pdf
May, 2007 - LRM claims that a rumour has circulated around the Internet about him dating Karla Homolka, the infamous spouse and accomplice of serial killer Paul Bernardo. LRM calls into Toronto Sun News to be interviewed in order to "set the record straight". Claims the rumour is ruining his life.
Source: http://www.torontosun.com/videos/1663745829001
December, 2011 LRM allegedly shows up at Sun News office in the UK to dispute a story that he was involved with animal abuse videos online. After the interview, UK Sun claims LRM emails the Sun with the alias John Kilbride and threatens that he will make a "new video" involving "humans" .
Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...p-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html
April 22, 2012 - YouTube account "Rita VanVolkenberg" uploads several videos of LRM, most entitled Cannibal Serial Killer - Luka Magnotta. This is several weeks before the actual murder of Jun Lin.
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyFA2kJn70_zCnruYxnzc5A
May 12, 2012 Someone posts on Yahoo There is a video circulating TOR ( The Deep Web) all I know is it was shot in San Fransisco, I have been trying to find it for weeks.
Source: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120515173030AAbc9B7
May 14, 2012 - YouTube account "alexisvaloranreich" uploads a video which consists a single image of a hooded person holding an icepick with a poster of Casablanca in the background. The uploader states: "There is apparently a video circulating around the deep web called " One Lunatic One Ice Pick" Video. Does anyone have a copy of it ?
See: http://www.youtube.com/user/alexisvaloranreich
Two other accounts "genisismaster" and "adamlemmon" comment on the above video a day later on May 15, 2012, both suggesting they know of the video.
See: http://www.youtube.com/user/genisismaster
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9JM59BAXnTysPyKeDXL0Q/feed
Both accounts have little activity other than these posts. The "genisismaster" account has "favorited" several animal abuse videos, like one where a bunny is fed to a snake.
May 15, 2012 - a poster named "babymaggie11" similarly asks about a "1 lunatic, 1 ice pick" video on OhLookaForum.com
Source: http://www.ohlookaforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17600
The name "babymaggie1" is linked to LRM on other sites, where he appears to have uploaded a photo of himself.
See: http://us.fotolog.com/babymaggie1/56700955/
May 16, 2012 Someone called "anonymousgirl33" posts a similar video on DailyMotion asking about a "1 Lunatic 1 icepick" video.
Source: http://www.dailymotion.com/anonymousgirl33
Same day, someone called "anonymousgirl4" makes two posts on Psychoforums.com, writing one titled "The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video" and saying, among other things, "There is a video of a guy around aged 20 from San Fransisco, he apparently made real snuff films that depict cannabilisim and necrophilia along with the murder".
Source: http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464.html
Notice that "San Francisco" is repeatedly misspelled as "San Fransisco" in these anonymous posts about the video before it has been even made.
May 24, 2012 - Last time Jun Lin is seen by friends. Lin Jun parents lose contact with him.
Source: http://metronews.ca/news/canada/249642/magnotta-nabbed-perusing-web-reports-about-himself/
May 25, 2012 - LRM's neighbour in Montreal claims to have seen him arrying box to post office.
Source: http://metronews.ca/news/canada/249642/magnotta-nabbed-perusing-web-reports-about-himself/
May 25, 2012 - The alleged kill video is posted on BestGore.com by Mark Marek, who now claims he posted after it was sent to him by a contributor to the site.
Interestingly, the posting on May 25 states "Very hard to find, the 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video took the internet by the storm as the most horrific shock video to have been released to date. There are speculations that One Lunatic One Ice Pick may be an actual snuff film..." There's also mention of "San Francisco" and "Russia" as the origins.
This is similar to April 22 and May 15/16 posts (noted above) which also spoke of "rumours" of a "snuff film" that may have been filmed in "San Francisco".
Source: http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-video/
May 26, 2012 A lawyer in Montana claims to have viewed "1 Lunatic, 1 Icepick" video on BestGore.com and calls the Toronto police about it. Apparently, the police tell him to contact "Crime Stoppers".
Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/05/pol-magnotta-best-gore-police.html
May 26, 2012 - Magnotta flies out of Montreal to France on an Air Transat flight. He sits in row 33 and his bizarre behavior alarms some passengers. LRM is seen "crying" at the back of the plane at some point.
Source: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1205451--luka-rocco-magnotta-caught-in-berlin-report
May 29, 2012 - A Montreal janitor discovers a suit case containing a human torso in a pile of garbage and discarded furniture on the curb near Place Lucy, LRM's building.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/gru...t+in+montreal+trash+bin/6442650312/story.html
May 29, 2012 - A package containing a human foot and a "note" arrives at Conservative Party HQ. A second package, containing a human hand, is discovered at an Ottawa Canada Post warehouse, addressed to the Liberal Party of Canada HQ.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/timeline+of+events+body+parts+murder+case/6442651932/story.html
May 29, 2012 - Police investigation focuses on LRM, as video surveillance taken both from LRM's apartment building as well as the local Canada Post mail depot (where the body part packages were mailed) show a "nervous" man matching LRM's description putting garbage at the curb several times, as well as a "nervous" LRM at the Canada Post mail depot.
Source: http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/06/05/19840541.html
May 30, 2012 - After LRM's apartment (5309 Place Lucy, Apartment 208) is searched, he becomes #1 suspect and a nationwide warrant is issued for his arrest.
Police also confirm that they are aware of the "Bestgore" kill video, and believe it to be authentic.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442650854
May 31, 2012 - Police say they have evidence suggesting LRM has left the country, and an international manhunt begins.
Source: www.globaltvedmonton.com/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442651008
May 31, 2012 Youtube user Beavis Butthead (BB) uploads videos on YouTube claiming LRM is being "framed" by an "insane agent" that he had "fired". Later, BB targets "Kris Sims" of the Toronto Sun News, who ran a story on Toronto Sun News that BB may be LRM.
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw?feature=plcp
Source: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/new-youtube-video-sounds-like-magnotta-expert
However, BB is not LRM, as BB continues to post after LRM was arrested.
June 1, 2012 - The victim is identified as Jun Lin, a 33 year old Chinese exchange student.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/bod...student+montreal+police/6442652308/story.html
June 4-5 2012 - LRM seen in France and then arrested in a cybercafe in Berlin.
Source: www.globaltvedmonton.com/suspected+killer+luka+magnotta+arrested+in+germany/6442653682/story.html
June 5, 2012 - Two packages containing a "note" and body parts arrive at two Vancouver schools.
Source: http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/article/738419--montreal-police-say-foot-found-on-street-today
June 6, 2012 - LRM does not object to extradition, and will likely be back in Canada to face trial by the end of June.
Source: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...-likely-by-end-of-june-german-prosecutors-say
Hey all, I've updated the timeline again based on feedback.
NOTE: This timeline contains mainly established facts, but also potential suppositions and leads. I have qualified suppositions and leads with words such as "allegedly" or "claimed" or "there is some evidence that..."
In all cases, I've attempted to systematically document any facts, assertions, or suppositions with sources and links so people can verify.
Based on feedback, I've removed some entries concerning "Beavis Butthead" (such as comparisons between BB and the DataLounge troll), and focused mainly on facts concerning BB. Though BB may just be a troll, he has come up often in discussions-- and was accused in MSM that he may be BB-- so I think it's worthwhile to at least have the fact established he is not LRM (despite what some media outlets have erroneously reported).
Of course, I welcome any feedback and will repost to the non-discussion thread.
================
TIMELINE
=================
2007 - LRM allegedly involved in flame wars on YouTube. There is some evidence that LRM already has many sockpuppets on YouTube and that his main YouTube account "lukamagnotta1" is suspended for abuse of TOS.
Evidence of these YouTube flame wars come from, among other things, from videos that other people made in response to LRM's abusive actions.
"Mega Man 999 Mega Man II" found on this YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/LtGradient - mocks LRM's use of "Megaman999Megaman" sockpuppet accounts as well as his hatred of homeless people.
"Goodbye lukamagnotta1" - found here: http://www.youtube.com/user/bloglops - celebrates that LRM's main YouTube account has been suspended.
Also, the dossier compiled by Animal Rights activists pursuing LRM documents some evidence of these early YouTube disputes:
See: http://www.abproject.org/docs/Kitten Killer 2010 - 2011.pdf
May, 2007 - LRM claims that a rumour has circulated around the Internet about him dating Karla Homolka, the infamous spouse and accomplice of serial killer Paul Bernardo. LRM calls into Toronto Sun News to be interviewed in order to "set the record straight". Claims the rumour is ruining his life.
Source: http://www.torontosun.com/videos/1663745829001
December, 2011 LRM allegedly shows up at Sun News office in the UK to dispute a story that he was involved with animal abuse videos online. After the interview, UK Sun claims LRM emails the Sun with the alias John Kilbride and threatens that he will make a "new video" involving "humans" .
Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...p-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html
April 22, 2012 - YouTube account "Rita VanVolkenberg" uploads several videos of LRM, most entitled Cannibal Serial Killer - Luka Magnotta. This is several weeks before the actual murder of Jun Lin.
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyFA2kJn70_zCnruYxnzc5A
May 12, 2012 Someone posts on Yahoo There is a video circulating TOR ( The Deep Web) all I know is it was shot in San Fransisco, I have been trying to find it for weeks.
Source: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120515173030AAbc9B7
May 14, 2012 - YouTube account "alexisvaloranreich" uploads a video which consists a single image of a hooded person holding an icepick with a poster of Casablanca in the background. The uploader states: "There is apparently a video circulating around the deep web called " One Lunatic One Ice Pick" Video. Does anyone have a copy of it ?
See: http://www.youtube.com/user/alexisvaloranreich
Two other accounts "genisismaster" and "adamlemmon" comment on the above video a day later on May 15, 2012, both suggesting they know of the video.
See: http://www.youtube.com/user/genisismaster
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9JM59BAXnTysPyKeDXL0Q/feed
Both accounts have little activity other than these posts. The "genisismaster" account has "favorited" several animal abuse videos, like one where a bunny is fed to a snake.
May 15, 2012 - a poster named "babymaggie11" similarly asks about a "1 lunatic, 1 ice pick" video on OhLookaForum.com
Source: http://www.ohlookaforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17600
The name "babymaggie1" is linked to LRM on other sites, where he appears to have uploaded a photo of himself.
See: http://us.fotolog.com/babymaggie1/56700955/
May 16, 2012 Someone called "anonymousgirl33" posts a similar video on DailyMotion asking about a "1 Lunatic 1 icepick" video.
Source: http://www.dailymotion.com/anonymousgirl33
Same day, someone called "anonymousgirl4" makes two posts on Psychoforums.com, writing one titled "The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video" and saying, among other things, "There is a video of a guy around aged 20 from San Fransisco, he apparently made real snuff films that depict cannabilisim and necrophilia along with the murder".
Source: http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464.html
Notice that "San Francisco" is repeatedly misspelled as "San Fransisco" in these anonymous posts about the video before it has been even made.
May 24, 2012 - Last time Jun Lin is seen by friends. Lin Jun parents lose contact with him.
Source: http://metronews.ca/news/canada/249642/magnotta-nabbed-perusing-web-reports-about-himself/
May 25, 2012 - LRM's neighbour in Montreal claims to have seen him arrying box to post office.
Source: http://metronews.ca/news/canada/249642/magnotta-nabbed-perusing-web-reports-about-himself/
May 25, 2012 - The alleged kill video is posted on BestGore.com by Mark Marek, who now claims he posted after it was sent to him by a contributor to the site.
Interestingly, the posting on May 25 states "Very hard to find, the 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video took the internet by the storm as the most horrific shock video to have been released to date. There are speculations that One Lunatic One Ice Pick may be an actual snuff film..." There's also mention of "San Francisco" and "Russia" as the origins.
This is similar to April 22 and May 15/16 posts (noted above) which also spoke of "rumours" of a "snuff film" that may have been filmed in "San Francisco".
Source: http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-video/
May 26, 2012 A lawyer in Montana claims to have viewed "1 Lunatic, 1 Icepick" video on BestGore.com and calls the Toronto police about it. Apparently, the police tell him to contact "Crime Stoppers".
Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/05/pol-magnotta-best-gore-police.html
May 26, 2012 - Magnotta flies out of Montreal to France on an Air Transat flight. He sits in row 33 and his bizarre behavior alarms some passengers. LRM is seen "crying" at the back of the plane at some point.
Source: http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1205451--luka-rocco-magnotta-caught-in-berlin-report
May 29, 2012 - A Montreal janitor discovers a suit case containing a human torso in a pile of garbage and discarded furniture on the curb near Place Lucy, LRM's building.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/gru...t+in+montreal+trash+bin/6442650312/story.html
May 29, 2012 - A package containing a human foot and a "note" arrives at Conservative Party HQ. A second package, containing a human hand, is discovered at an Ottawa Canada Post warehouse, addressed to the Liberal Party of Canada HQ.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/timeline+of+events+body+parts+murder+case/6442651932/story.html
May 29, 2012 - Police investigation focuses on LRM, as video surveillance taken both from LRM's apartment building as well as the local Canada Post mail depot (where the body part packages were mailed) show a "nervous" man matching LRM's description putting garbage at the curb several times, as well as a "nervous" LRM at the Canada Post mail depot.
Source: http://www.lfpress.com/news/canada/2012/06/05/19840541.html
May 30, 2012 - After LRM's apartment (5309 Place Lucy, Apartment 208) is searched, he becomes #1 suspect and a nationwide warrant is issued for his arrest.
Police also confirm that they are aware of the "Bestgore" kill video, and believe it to be authentic.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442650854
May 31, 2012 - Police say they have evidence suggesting LRM has left the country, and an international manhunt begins.
Source: www.globaltvedmonton.com/Pages/Story.aspx?id=6442651008
May 31, 2012 Youtube user Beavis Butthead (BB) uploads videos on YouTube claiming LRM is being "framed" by an "insane agent" that he had "fired". Later, BB targets "Kris Sims" of the Toronto Sun News, who ran a story on Toronto Sun News that BB may be LRM.
See: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw?feature=plcp
Source: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/01/new-youtube-video-sounds-like-magnotta-expert
However, BB is not LRM, as BB continues to post after LRM was arrested.
June 1, 2012 - The victim is identified as Jun Lin, a 33 year old Chinese exchange student.
Source: http://www.globaltvedmonton.com/bod...student+montreal+police/6442652308/story.html
June 4-5 2012 - LRM seen in France and then arrested in a cybercafe in Berlin.
Source: www.globaltvedmonton.com/suspected+killer+luka+magnotta+arrested+in+germany/6442653682/story.html
June 5, 2012 - Two packages containing a "note" and body parts arrive at two Vancouver schools.
Source: http://www.thespec.com/news/canada/article/738419--montreal-police-say-foot-found-on-street-today
June 6, 2012 - LRM does not object to extradition, and will likely be back in Canada to face trial by the end of June.
Source: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...-likely-by-end-of-june-german-prosecutors-say
