ARRESTED- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder charge;INTERPOL alert #6

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Sorry just getting in and reading about the possible connection between LM and the Medellin case. Has anyone found any posts that could be Magnotta on any Medellin forums discussing the case? He's GOTTA be discussing the death and dismemberment IF he is responsible.

Question: was Medellin an animal activist?
 
Interesting stuff, but I actually don't think LRM is schizophrenic.

I think he's a straight up psychopath. Grandiose self-worth, need for stimulation, pathological lying, manipulative behavior, lack of remorse, shallowness/callousness, lack of empathy, promiscuous sex life, early behavioral problems, impulsivity, lack of realistic life goals, etc.

All the online sockpuppets and weird postings were part of a grand scheme to make himself famous; to reach his full potential, which is both grandiose, unrealistic, and delusional.

Look at this "test" for psychopathy. LRM has a positive on each trait:

http://www.arkancide.com/psychopathy.htm


The animal abuse is typical of psychopaths, as they derive pleasure and excitement from testing the boundaries of laws, rules, social conventions. They understand what is legal and illegal, but feel no remorse and have no moral compass. Once LRM realized he could kill kittens without remorse, it was only a matter of time before he realized he could do the same with humans.

i agree with your post...
i too am not leaning towards schizophrenic based on my unfortunate realtionship with one loooooooooong time ago. much more leaning towards psychopath.


Key Symptoms of Psychopathy

Interpersonal
Emotional

Social Deviance

Glib and superficial

Impulsive

Egocentric and grandiose

Poor behavior controls

Lack of remorse or guilt

Need for excitement

Lack of empathy

Lack of responsibility

Deceitful and manipulative

Early behavior problems

Shallow emotions

Adult antisocial behavior

http://aftermath-surviving-psychopa...-to-spot-social-predators-before-they-attack/

ETA.....I dont think he is paranoid....I believe his ramblings of stalkers and such are him making it look like he is innocent. I do not believe at all he thinks there are stalkers or people framing him. I truly believe he is manipulative and deceitful and is f.cking w/ everyone by acting like the innocent paranoid victim!
 
Waw, I finally managed to catch up after being at least ten pages behind these last two days! Just wanted to tell everyone I think you did great work! Reading all those inaccurate news article from french media made me realize how fast you all found and analyzed available information :clap:
 
Regarding a mental health defense in canada. I found this interesting tidbit-
http://http://blog.torontodefencelawyers.com/tag/insanity-defence/

The Court found that the term “disease of the mind” was a legal concept, to be determined by the trier of fact (judge or jury), and not a medical term. It is the function of the psychiatrist to describe the accused’s mental condition and how it is considered from a medical point of view, but it is for the judge to decide whether the condition described constitutes a “disease of the mind.


much more at link
 
sounds awesome....PAX can pick me up on the way....lol well if driving lol



and thanks for the link.....adding to bookmarks and reading!

I would love that!! My brother makes his own Maple Syrup so I can send you home with truly Quebecois souvenirs :)
 
Arrrghhh.... I am driving myself batty here. I seem to recall seeing somewhere (Pearltrees?) some kind of link to LM and an article "How to React to what are you looking at, is this ringing a bell for anyone here?
One of the characteristics of a psychopath is being unable to show certain emotions (such as empathy for example)
This strongly suggests that LM was aware of not having appropriate responses to things, and was attempting to "teach himself". Just another part of his b.s. persona..
 
Following up from my earlier post regarding my Schizoaffective/Bi-Polar theory with some additional points of discussion thrown in to bounce around:


Delusional (grandiose thinking, alternate identities/pseudonyms), paranoid (stalkers), denial about his mental health in his rant about his mother leaving him in a mental ward (I couldn't find a quick link to this blog post), disorganized thoughts (writing style, plagiarism compensates), affective flattening, anhedonia (sexual & social - no close friends or family have been identified for well over a year or more, negative escort reviews - necessary to go to extremes in an attempt to achieve pleasure), notes the use of Risperdal in a post, reporter inquired about his mental health and lack of eye blinking after his Karla H. interview in 2007; stated on Dr. Drew (June 2012) that he was told by LM's agent that "he is fine, just needs his medication".


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I stumbled across an interview with E. Fuller Torrey (considered to be one of the world's authorities on schizophrenia). I wonder if this might be why LM hates cats so much. Perhaps he was diagnosed and true to form refused to believe it but researched it. Here is the article - http://cogweb.ucla.edu/ep/Schizovirus.html
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I think the use of the word “OR” will figure prominently in this case:

The defence of mental disorder is codified in section 16 of the Criminal Code of Canada which states, in part:
16. (1) No person is criminally responsible for an act committed or an omission made while suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong.
To establish a claim of mental disorder the party raising the issue must show on a balance of probabilities first that the person who committed the act was suffering from a "disease of the mind", and second, that at the time of the offence they were either 1) unable to appreciate the "nature and quality" of the act, or 2) did not know it was "wrong".
The meaning of the word "wrong" was determined in the Supreme Court case of R. v. Chaulk [1990] 3 S.C.R. which held that "wrong" was NOT restricted to "legally wrong" but to "morally wrong" as well.

Ok... feel free to discuss at your leisure. I have to pop off-line for a bit to work with & love on my GSD for awhile.

What comes to mind, are the couple of posts that LM had made to the psych forum, I believe, where he went into some detail about his childhood. He definitely mentions his mother's mental illness (bi-polar?) and the fact that he couldn't have friends over, because his mother was a germaphobe--always had on rubber gloves, or something to that effect.
Maybe the cat thing began in his childhood? About cats carrying germs?

Also, if LM was bi-polar, it would explain a lot, with his alternating moods of being anti-social, maybe even depressed, not wanting to go out --and then "manic" episodes with delusional-thinking, grandiosity. And if he was on his meds, he might be alright, IF he didn't also take any other drugs or alcohol with them.
 
I think Eric Newman is just the garden variety antisocial personality disorder: sociopath. He planned a murder, committed a murder, taunted police with what he did, mailed body parts around the country (nothing new here) and then sat back to enjoy the attention.
 
To me his mom and germaphobe sounds more like she had OCD and not bi-polar
 
i agree with your post...
i too am not leaning towards schizophrenic based on my unfortunate realtionship with one loooooooooong time ago. much more leaning towards psychopath.




ETA.....I dont think he is paranoid....I believe his ramblings of stalkers and such are him making it look like he is innocent. I do not believe at all he thinks there are stalkers or people framing him. I truly believe he is manipulative and deceitful and is f.cking w/ everyone by acting like the innocent paranoid victim!

The only problem with this is that there may be some evidence that he was indeed on medication for schizophrenia. I am trying to confirm that though.
 
To me his mom and germaphobe sounds more like she had OCD and not bi-polar

Eric filled the internet with fiction ... why believe the "stories" he concocted about his childhood.
 
I also think that arrest report in AZ that the poster (forgot name) found should probably send that to the AZ police handling that homicide and LA and Canada investigators on the case.

That was me. I'm new here and won't be contacting anyone, I'll leave that for someone else if it's deemed truly important.

Wanted to say that outside of Phoenix, there's not much but Tucson, so a lot of driving gets done. Hence a lot of tickets outside of those areas can be had. Lots of people drive from the Phoenix area to the LA area - wonder if there are any routes from CA to anywhere in AZ that would include Payson as a waypoint?
 
The only problem with this is that there may be some evidence that he was indeed on medication for schizophrenia. I am trying to confirm that though.

id agree with that...thus my mention of it earlier...

at this point w/out having more info on him personally and not just him playing online....any guess is on the table...
 
Road trip to Canada, party at Karn's place!
 
id agree with that...thus my mention of it earlier...

at this point w/out having more info on him personally and not just him playing online....any guess is on the table...

Im behind so I probably missed where you mentioned it. Anyway I gotta run see you all later.
 

I don't think that is the "latest" if you will (I posted a link in the timeline thread that has a direct quote from LE saying he was in LA during the murder and they are investigating)

:moo:


eta: it was the LA times that reported this yesterday.. (that there is no connection)... but the reports that came out today are different
 
I think Eric Newman is just the garden variety antisocial personality disorder: sociopath. He planned a murder, committed a murder, taunted police with what he did, mailed body parts around the country (nothing new here) and then sat back to enjoy the attention.

Totally agree! I've worked with teen (and younger) socio/psychopaths. He's just another among many!

:jail:
 
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