ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 3

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Carrie has announced on her FB that she will not be giving any more interviews. She says if asked to do one, she will not talk about Gary. I wonder if pointing out her story was B.S. and against the law to lie to the FBI had any thing to do with that.
 
Neither one of them were wearing bathing suits in the picture. It's already after 4, they'd have to change, get their gear, get to the location, get in the water and snorkel. She is said to have been highly intoxicated, would have taken her even longer if her motor skills were impaired

He claims that he had to swim for his life all the way back, but he was knocking on the window at what time, 6 or a little before, without his gear on?

That's a lot that would have had to be accomplished in less than two hours if they had gone snorkeling, seems unlikely.

JMHO

Besides, who goes snorkeling that late? Usually you go when the sun is overhead and the visibility is great. This story is just ODD. Aruban authorities seem far behind STILL on their abilities to investigate. Get it together Aruba.
 
Besides, who goes snorkeling that late? Usually you go when the sun is overhead and the visibility is great. This story is just ODD. Aruban authorities seem far behind STILL on their abilities to investigate. Get it together Aruba.

I don't think we know that to be the case
We have no idea what they may or may not be doing
 
Have a look at this photo here. It looks like he took a roll of paper towels.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...15135231183.439795.41771906182&type=1&theater

As I stated earlier in this thread, we have a house on Aruba's sister island Bonaire.

In regards to the papertowels. It is HOT on the ABC Islands, especially when you first arrive. It takes us at least 3-4 days to get acclimated to the heat. We don't carry a roll of papertowels with us, however, we do carry paper towels to wipe the sweat from our faces. Actually we have a box of those disposable "rags" or heavy duty papertowels at our house & we always have a few in our pockets, in the car, in my purse, etc until we get used to the heat & stop sweating profusly LOL.
 
O/T I know BUT there has been a shallow (less than 4 miles deep) 5.9 earthquake in northern Virginia.
 
Carrie has announced on her FB that she will not be giving any more interviews. She says if asked to do one, she will not talk about Gary. I wonder if pointing out her story was B.S. and against the law to lie to the FBI had any thing to do with that.


I think that GG did call her. But I don't think the conversation went anything the way she said it did. AND that is why she didn't involve LE, because the nature of her daughters photos.
 
As I stated earlier in this thread, we have a house on Aruba's sister island Bonaire.

In regards to the papertowels. It is HOT on the ABC Islands, especially when you first arrive. It takes us at least 3-4 days to get acclimated to the heat. We don't carry a roll of papertowels with us, however, we do carry paper towels to wipe the sweat from our faces. Actually we have a box of those disposable "rags" or heavy duty papertowels at our house & we always have a few in our pockets, in the car, in my purse, etc until we get used to the heat & stop sweating profusly LOL.


O/T I want to go to Starfish's house. :crazy:
 
Carrie has announced on her FB that she will not be giving any more interviews. She says if asked to do one, she will not talk about Gary. I wonder if pointing out her story was B.S. and against the law to lie to the FBI had any thing to do with that.

I saw that. So, what is it? You're no longer giving interviews OR you are but won't talk about Gary?

That's O.K. You've talked enough about Gary and it's on TV so we have all seen what you said and it's recorded. She is not very intelligent.
 
I think that GG did call her. But I don't think the conversation went anything the way she said it did. AND that is why she didn't involve LE, because the nature of her daughters photos.

She has never talked to Gary IMO. She made it up. She figured she could get publicity and she was right about that. What she didn't count on was the backlash from people picking up on the fact her story was BS.
 
This theory speculates that Robyn's death was not planned. What was planned was a sexual assault of the victim while in her drugged state of mind. This may have been done due to unwillingness on the victim's part to engage in certain sexual activities, or as part of some deluded fantasy to overpower the victim with drugs so he could have his way with her. There is some degree of evidence that the victim may not have been a completely willing party to all of Giordano's plans, such as her comment "This sucks" at 2 a.m. the night before her disappearance, made on RF's Facebook wall.

How difficult is it to obtain roofies in Aruba? Is it possible to track down a purchase of them? Another angle to check would be to find out from Robyn's friends if she carried a bottle of sleeping pills with her as a routine. I believe it will be discovered that she does not. Also, she didn't take the bottle of pills with her into the ocean, so where are they?

The statement by Giordano may have been his way of ensuring he is not implicated in her death in case her body is found and the drug is found in her system.

This makes sense-- I don't think he would have mentioned anything to police unless he was concerned or knew it would show up on a tox screen, since otherwise, saying that does make things sound more suspicious and he wouldn't want to add suspicion.

But since she (IMO) really was under the influence of something and he knew it would show up on a tox, he had to bring it up but make it sound like it was her own action and in a natural context.

Also, I am aware of people using/abusing other similar drugs if rohypnol is NOT available, so I believe that even if it was not available in Aruba (and I would ASSUME no one would travel with something illegal or not prescribed to them due to screening and searches while traveling) it is still a valid theory. People can take otherwise legal drugs and misuse them in this way.

As the article states, things like xanax(alprazolam) etc. are legal and fairly commonly prescribed in the US (did GVG possibly have a prescription for any medications that could be used to drug someone else, I wonder??)

While a single dose of any benzodiazepine will not usually make someone lose consciousness, it can certainly cause amnesia and alcohol-type effects (dis-inhibition, etc.) and when actually combined with alcohol its effects can be much more severe (loss of consciousness, death, etc.)

Just something to think about... I agree the fact GVG brought up sleeping pills is important.
 
Apologies if I missed this being discussed, but did anyone watch the Joy Behar show last night on HLN? They had the boyfriend on and there were a few things that he said that interested me:

- her hair extensions were $500 and were done twice a year. He does not believe that she would ever go in the water

- when asked about sexual pictures he said that was not "her" and that if there are nude pictures of her they would have been taken without her consent.

- he said that he still has hope that she could be found alive; that he's being realistic but until he is told or shown otherwise, he can keep hoping she is ok.

He definitely came off as a very loving and concerned boyfriend... In my opinion he liked her a lot more than she liked him.
 
As I stated earlier in this thread, we have a house on Aruba's sister island Bonaire.

In regards to the papertowels. It is HOT on the ABC Islands, especially when you first arrive. It takes us at least 3-4 days to get acclimated to the heat. We don't carry a roll of papertowels with us, however, we do carry paper towels to wipe the sweat from our faces. Actually we have a box of those disposable "rags" or heavy duty papertowels at our house & we always have a few in our pockets, in the car, in my purse, etc until we get used to the heat & stop sweating profusly LOL.

Thank you.

I still think it's peculiar to take a whole roll of paper towels out of a restaurant.
 
I agree with pp that there is no reason for GG to tell LE that Robyn took any pills unless he wanted to give a reason as to why they might be in her body (if she is deceased). However, could he also be using the pills as an excuse as to why she supposedly drowned?
 
Apologies if I missed this being discussed, but did anyone watch the Joy Behar show last night on HLN? They had the boyfriend on and there were a few things that he said that interested me:

- her hair extensions were $500 and were done twice a year. He does not believe that she would ever go in the water

- when asked about sexual pictures he said that was not "her" and that if there are nude pictures of her they would have been taken without her consent.

- he said that he still has hope that she could be found alive; that he's being realistic but until he is told or shown otherwise, he can keep hoping she is ok.

He definitely came off as a very loving and concerned boyfriend... In my opinion he liked her a lot more than she liked him.


I am sorry, I am confused

Sexual pictures? Is he referring to the ones on the camera in Aruba?
 
You know, I am very curious about Robyn's possessions. Do we have any idea what became of them? If GVG really believed that she simply "disappeared" but that there was no body, I would assume a normal person whose date "disappeared" during a snorkeling excursion would make sure to find that person's things and give them to investigators, family, etc. in case that person was alive but injured somewhere, or if dead, so the family would have the belongings.

We know he tried to leave the country-- so what did he do with Robyn's belongings? I am guessing this info is not available, but to me that would be a big clue to his mindstate...
 
You know, I am very curious about Robyn's possessions. Do we have any idea what became of them? If GVG really believed that she simply "disappeared" but that there was no body, I would assume a normal person whose date "disappeared" during a snorkeling excursion would make sure to find that person's things and give them to investigators, family, etc. in case that person was alive but injured somewhere, or if dead, so the family would have the belongings.

We know he tried to leave the country-- so what did he do with Robyn's belongings? I am guessing this info is not available, but to me that would be a big clue to his mindstate...

Only assuming he may have given them to her Mom
 
I agree with pp that there is no reason for GG to tell LE that Robyn took any pills unless he wanted to give a reason as to why they might be in her body (if she is deceased). However, could he also be using the pills as an excuse as to why she supposedly drowned?

Oh, that makes a lot of sense as well... didn't think of that. And also sort of serves perhaps to place blame on her-- i.e. she chose to go in the water after combining alcohol and sleeping pills, no wonder she drowned (not that I am saying it is her fault-- or would be even if that had happened-- just that I can see how that would also be a motive to tell LE, as you point out.. takes some of the "heat" off of him, even though his own story involves him leaving his dive partner in rough water)
 
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