August 26th 2016 Motions Filed

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I am just looking at the exhibits again.

The poorly copied pictures of someone's writing/drawing is from RH (I wasn't sure earlier)

On page 73, there is a report from Fassbender. In the report, it states "They did, however, locate a blue athletic type bag at which time the contents were unknown"

I have just checked the evidence log and I don't see it listed. Where is this blue bag? what was in it? Why isn't it on the evidence list?
 
Essentially it would need to pass through two bones though. Passing through the one side of the skull would have greatly reduced it's power. It's highly doubtful it would have had enough power to exit the other side (or second bone).
One more From Steve Moore RSBM (He was a SNIPER lol!) I snipped it, but the whole issue about the bullet can be found here: http://gmancasefile.com/moore-to-th...erer-an-fbi-agents-take-episode-6-part-2-of-3
The Magic Bullet:
bullett.jpg
Lrange 22 on the right...
"The .22LR, therefore does not, except in the most unusual circumstances, exit the skull after it is fired into the head. It lacks the mass or velocity to punch through the second wall of bone. It is my opinion that if Teresa Halbach was killed with a .22LR bullet to the head -- even at point-blank range -- the bullet never exited her skull. So why, then, would it be on Avery’s garage floor? And why, then, does it even still exist? It should have been destroyed in the fire.
For a fire to have been hot enough to destroy Teresa's body the way it did, the temperature of the fire would have been had to of been over 1000°, probably closer to 1500°. Lead, which makes up the vast majority of .22LR bullets, melts at 621°. You see what I'm getting at here? If it was a .22, the bullet stayed in the skull. If the body was burned, the bullet melted. Period.

Could she have been killed by a larger caliber bullet that actually excited the skull? Certainly. But the bullet the prosecution claims bears Halbach's DNA is a .22, which poses a real problem for me.

What, you ask, if for some odd reason the .22 exited her skull? If the bullet which killed Teresa Halbach (if indeed a bullet ended her life), exited her skull, it would do so at a relatively high rate of speed. It would not have come out of her head and fallen onto the ground a few inches from her. It would've continued until it impacted something solid and then fell or ricocheted. When bullets hit solid objects, they either fragment or carry the marks of the impact with them. Therefore, examination of this bullet is crucial. It's not just whether Teresa's DNA is on it; the actual physical characteristics of the recovered bullet might provide valuable information.

I tried to imagine a scenario where Teresa, in the garage, was killed with a .22 rifle bullet to the head, which then exited her head (highly unlikely) and resulted in the bullet remaining in the garage (in this case, under the compressor.) The problem I continued to run up against is that there is no patent or latent blood in the garage, so I cannot explain how she could have been killed in the garage. If she was not shot in that garage, the killer (or someone else) would have had to have come upon the spent bullet after the murder, kept it, and discarded it on the floor of the Avery garage. Not something Steven Avery was likely to do. Why take the time to burn her body, then drop a bullet with her DNA on it on the floor of your garage? Another thought I had was that she might have been shot somewhere outside the garage when the the garage door happened to be open. Then, against all odds, the bullet ended its flight in Avery's garage. I find those scenario far-fetched.
 
Here's a little interesting tidbit. This person posted a long time ago on Reddit, claiming they were RH's coworker. RH claimed they got TH's voicemail password by calling up Cingular and explaining the situation to them. Nobody believed them because RH testified differently. Now that we see KZ's motion and RH's cell phone bill, we realize it's true.

http://overthrow.us/ryan-hillegas/ryan-hillegas-purported-co-workers-reddit-post-recovered/

ohhh I remember this, but I forgot about the Cingular part. I think on the night of the 3rd, it was her account password he was looking for though (to access her records online), which was probably different from her pin for her voicemail?

What I can't figure out, and Zellner didn't provide proof of, is why she thinks 11 (pretty specific number) messages were deleted on the 2nd. I could see 1 or 2 messages getting bumped off (14 day limit), but 11???
 
Here's a little interesting tidbit. This person posted a long time ago on Reddit, claiming they were RH's coworker. RH claimed they got TH's voicemail password by calling up Cingular and explaining the situation to them. Nobody believed them because RH testified differently. Now that we see KZ's motion and RH's cell phone bill, we realize it's true.

http://overthrow.us/ryan-hillegas/ryan-hillegas-purported-co-workers-reddit-post-recovered/

I don't think anyone has ever come forward to claim that statement. If a restraining order had been issued, it would have been in the court records...

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseSearch.xsl;jsessionid=F95FE42D6DEB0A0ADD77EAE6F1971551.render6?
 
ohhh I remember this, but I forgot about the Cingular part. I think on the night of the 3rd, it was her account password he was looking for though (to access her records online), which was probably different from her pin for her voicemail?

What I can't figure out, and Zellner didn't provide proof of, is why she thinks 11 (pretty specific number) messages were deleted on the 2nd. I could see 1 or 2 messages getting bumped off (14 day limit), but 11???

Yep, really specific, almost as if she has some insider knowledge. I've convinced myself that RH, at least, is communicating with her, and she's bluffing everyone by making them thing she suspects RH and JR. I think the real suspect is going to come from an entirely different direction.
 
ohhh I remember this, but I forgot about the Cingular part. I think on the night of the 3rd, it was her account password he was looking for though (to access her records online), which was probably different from her pin for her voicemail?

What I can't figure out, and Zellner didn't provide proof of, is why she thinks 11 (pretty specific number) messages were deleted on the 2nd. I could see 1 or 2 messages getting bumped off (14 day limit), but 11???

I caught that too~~but didn't pursue any sleuthing on it.
 
geesh, I started looking at his phone bill. The company is Alltel... and I can't figure out the "call types". Driving me crazy LOL

There are a lot of repeat numbers...I will put something together tomorrow...I was going to do it today but ran out of time...

MM--mobile to mobile
W-weekend (nights and weekend)
OP-off peak

Ok...maybe too sleepy to look at this tonight...I'll look in the am...Good Night.
 
The MM I figured out. The W... very few of them and I don't think it's weekend... for example on the 29th and 30th, only 1 out of the numerous calls have W beside it.

All the one's I am assuming Zellner thinks is LE calling, are labelled D. Maybe it has something to do with no caller id or something?
 
oh waittttttttttt ... I wonder if they mean "Dropped"?

and uhmmm remember when Ryan said the cell coverage out there was not very good? :scared:
 
oh waittttttttttt ... I wonder if they mean "Dropped"?

and uhmmm remember when Ryan said the cell coverage out there was not very good? :scared:

Yep~~not sure what CTH means though...I know they had circle of friends back then....
 
One last post for tonight... Radant said he saw a large fire, contained to a 55 gallon drum.

This is SA's barrel, where the electronic devices were reported to be found.

Exhibit-37-Avery-trailer-and-barrel.jpg

here is an overhead photo, showing the Salvage yard, the quarry, and the deer camp. Avery's trailer is located in the bottom left hand corner of the Salvage yard property.

There is no way he could have seen a fire in that barrel.
Exhibit-91-Animation-Photos.jpg
 
One last post for tonight... Radant said he saw a large fire, contained to a 55 gallon drum.

This is SA's barrel, where the electronic devices were reported to be found.

View attachment 100360

here is an overhead photo, showing the Salvage yard, the quarry, and the deer camp. Avery's trailer is located in the bottom left hand corner of the Salvage yard property.

There is no way he could have seen a fire in that barrel.
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Yeah, I tend to agree... and I am very skeptical wrt Radant's testimony. Which is why I raised the "deer camp" bit some time ago. If you look at the larger map that I posted, it appears there's a burm between the camp and Avery property. Which, depending upon how high it is, could arguably obscure the so-called "fire" that Radant claimed he saw.

Now, if you read further down in the aforementioned thread, you'll see that they apparently confiscated several burn barrels from that camp, as well. To my mind, and in light of what I perceive to be a grossly sloppy investigation, I think a reasonable challenge could be made regarding the origination of the barrels containing Ms. Halbach's personal effects.

That said, I am still leaning to the Avery did it side of the fence. Why? Simply due to the forensic acrobatics required to frame him. And this is even after reading this recent (road-map) motion. I think the motion proposes way too many players, which in turn, and imvnsho, weakens the defense's case, as opposed to strengthening it.
 
The MM I figured out. The W... very few of them and I don't think it's weekend... for example on the 29th and 30th, only 1 out of the numerous calls have W beside it.

All the one's I am assuming Zellner thinks is LE calling, are labelled D. Maybe it has something to do with no caller id or something?

BBM, It wouldn't be some type of internet access would it like a W for Windows?
 
Right.
Are you ever taking into consideration Limaes, this " linked evidence " was planted?
Ever?
As far as RH & the rest of the crew,
Circumstantial evidence isn't unheard of, you know
when putting someone behind bars🙄

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Yes, I have.

Have you ever considered that it was not planted?
 
Yes, I have.

Have you ever considered that it was not planted?
I have. But then then the conclusion I reach is that Avery would have had to set himself up to be caught...and where's the motive for that?

With all the shady, improper, and illegal things we know LE had going-on in this case, what would be the reason they needed to conduct themselves so terribly Unethically?
 
Yes, I have.

Have you ever considered that it was not planted?
I have actually.
I have, a few times tried to say to myself
" let's say for a minute everything is as it seems & Avery did do this "
I can't buy into though. Too many things don't add up

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I don't think anyone has ever come forward to claim that statement. If a restraining order had been issued, it would have been in the court records...

https://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseSearch.xsl;jsessionid=F95FE42D6DEB0A0ADD77EAE6F1971551.render6?

The person suspected there was a restraining order against RH. I suspect the matter was handled internally through Human Resources/mediation type situation where it was agreed RH could never work in the same unit as his ex.
 

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