Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #6

[meticulously]

David Masters has been incarcerated since June 1991, so he's ruled out for the CSK assaults. He might be good for Sally Greenham, though. I'm not sure if that's what you're suggesting. I would be interested to read details about her disappearance.

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It was suggested by a poster that masters could be involved in the spate of missing women between "86 "87 "88 , "89 , But it was just a random comment . And theres been the odd mention in this thread of the name here . That explains how he came to be on here , because #julie cutler is unsolved , #sally greenham and julie are similar looking , we know there's certain types that perps target and if some cold cases are likely different offenders around this time frame then it makes CSKs timeline clearer to estimate . Sleuth on...

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[Mo Joe]

Mo joe do you mean an actual csk idkit ? Can you elaborate how or why it could be created ?

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The psychic identikit had no distinguishing features. He could have been anyone. I would like to compare it to 'as close to average as you could get'? Sometimes people see what they want to see. Was his hair dark or fair? Was his nose large or small? See what I mean...

 

[Mo Joe]

MM was tall. Taller people often have larger heads / bigger feet / bigger hands? Agree / Disagree?

 

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The psychic identikit had no distinguishing features. He could have been anyone. I would like to compare it to 'as close to average as you could get'? Sometimes people see what they want to see. Was his hair dark or fair? Was his nose large or small? See what I mean...

Agreed it is very average . Would you discount it completely or Could there be any truth behind its creation ?

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[Mo Joe]

MM had dark hair. We can't decide eye colour from the back of his head, because he may perhaps have been of Irish decent or something like that? His hands were white I'd say, and the police attention on PW and LW tend to confirm this to me. If LW and PW have different coloured eyes, then the Police don't or didn't know his eye colour. A full DNA profile would confirm eye colour wouldn't it?

 

[Mo Joe]

Agreed it is very average . Would you discount it completely or Could there be any truth behind its creation ?

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I don't like it. My main reason is because the identikit looks too young. Especially if JC may have been a victim.

 

[meticulously]

MM had dark hair. We can't decide eye colour from the back of his head, because he may perhaps have been of Irish decent or something like that? His hands were white I'd say, and the police attention on PW and LW tend to confirm this to me. If LW and PW have different coloured eyes, then the Police don't or didn't know his eye colour. A full DNA profile would confirm eye colour wouldn't it?

Thanks mo joe , you have linked it to mm ? Reasonable theory , & it fits mm in my imagination too . was wondering if it had been grafted off any other idkits at the time from witnesses or the half face that we saw recently . Idk much about the psychic story relative to this case , does anyone know ? The picture that is .

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[88mph]

MM had dark hair. We can't decide eye colour from the back of his head, because he may perhaps have been of Irish decent or something like that? His hands were white I'd say, and the police attention on PW and LW tend to confirm this to me. If LW and PW have different coloured eyes, then the Police don't or didn't know his eye colour. A full DNA profile would confirm eye colour wouldn't it?

I believe they can create a pretty accurate full identikit from DNA. Bone structure and the whole bit - just not hair length.


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[Bartholemeus]

Thats interesting bart , you believe its possible the psychic id kit picture had some merit. Can anyone say how / why ?

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It's typical for psychics/frauds to do prior research and then make out they gained this knowledge through their alleged "skill". It's possible they had a source that told them what the pre-cursor sex attacker looked like. Or it's equally or more possible that they completely made it up.

 

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It's typical for psychics/frauds to do prior research and then make out they gained this knowledge through their alleged "skill". It's possible they had a source that told them what the pre-cursor sex attacker looked like. Or it's equally or more possible that they completely made it up.

Ok thanks your opinion is valued in such matters . Can you create a overview of subway assault bart your skills are requested please ? only recently have I figured out where that could have taken place and iirc there has been incorrect assumptions to how/where it occurred by posters on some threads . Can we please have a zoom into the MO of this totally brazen attack ?

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Correct me if im wrong .
This is where the predominant favored area is from what I can find amongst the threads

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Source from the documentary hunt for a killer . Zoomed in on subway

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[Bartholemeus]

Source from the documentary hunt for a killer . Zoomed in on subway

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Good work, you've just solved a piece of the puzzle. We speculated it was lights rather than stop sign (even though the article says stop sign) so you've just provided some clarity as to where it actually happened. We weren't even 100% sure we had the correct subway.

He must have taken her to the bank of the railway line. It's all sealed ets now. At the time there was a wire mesh fence and sometimes the grass would grow reasonable long between the curb and all the way up to the tracks.

Still very brazen leaving her car there. I wonder if he had a car? Because Lakeway and KK Man did.


Hang on a sec - that looks more Barnfield Rd than Claremont Cres. That's a one way so you can't actually stop there. It's also just houses and a block of flats.

Will look at this later, got to go.

 

[meticulously]

Good work, you've just solved a piece of the puzzle. We speculated it was lights rather than stop sign (even though the article says stop sign) so you've just provided some clarity as to where it actually happened. We weren't even 100% sure we had the correct subway.

He must have taken her to the bank of the railway line. It's all sealed ets now. At the time there was a wire mesh fence and sometimes the grass would grow reasonable long between the curb and all the way up to the tracks.

Still very brazen leaving her car there. I wonder if he had a car? Because Lakeway and KK Man did.

Yes Bart , it is apparently the stop lights , and victim left from cbv so that means she stops before even going under any subway . Theres bushes in front of the lights too , perhaps the perp pretended to walk across the lights at pedestrian crossing . we need to use a 1995 landgate because it looks developed now

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Subway stirling road claremont
From the evidence gleaned from this thread the reports say victim attacked at lights / subway . Lets have a look at option 1 . He aims towards the door of driver seat to pull victim out if the car is stopped at red light . The car had to be stationary right ? So is that before entering the subway ?

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[meticulously]

Good work, you've just solved a piece of the puzzle. We speculated it was lights rather than stop sign (even though the article says stop sign) so you've just provided some clarity as to where it actually happened. We weren't even 100% sure we had the correct subway.

He must have taken her to the bank of the railway line. It's all sealed ets now. At the time there was a wire mesh fence and sometimes the grass would grow reasonable long between the curb and all the way up to the tracks.

Still very brazen leaving her car there. I wonder if he had a car? Because Lakeway and KK Man did.


Hang on a sec - that looks more Barnfield Rd than Claremont Cres. That's a one way so you can't actually stop there. It's also just houses and a block of flats.

Will look at this later, got to go.

Actually no I haven't figured it out at all , lets do some hypotheses , the same as (k/rowe park ) we had 3 options & likely by the last option 3, it looked fairly conclusive as to mo .
Theres two directions from cbv that would put car at the lights you would think ? So that arrow could deceive us at this stage without thorough WS discussion

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[ Hang on a sec - that looks more Barnfield Rd than Claremont Cres. That's a one way so you can't actually stop there. It's also just houses and a block of flats.

Will look at this later, got to go.[/QUOTE]
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That might have been because the image turned sideways . Have Reposted one thats aligned with the usual nth facing articles

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[88mph]

Subway stirling road claremont
From the evidence gleaned from this thread the reports say victim attacked at lights / subway . Lets have a look at option 1 . He aims towards the door of driver seat to pull victim out if the car is stopped at red light . The car had to be stationary right ? So is that before entering the subway ?

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This end of Claremont could be a real hot spot;

SS last seen on this side.
GC last seen on this side.

JR did she walk this way?
Where were the Swanbourne New Years attacks exactly?



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Hi 88 ,the western side of the "danger zone" seemed to have most.. And just another distance beyond this subway, along Stirling ROAD to the culdesac was the "golf course incident" . It hasnt been pointed out on the threads enough , actually very little detail is available but we can do that here hypothesizing how . And expert poi profilers would have noticed the assault zones lean towards the coastal side . Which means that the offenders may less likely from inland / east side of the city as far as my guess goes ?? Im sure someone here has the expertise with geoprofiling. Anyway we already see that but these are the failed attempts , subway , golf course , princess rd , church lane ,theres more later . For now im hoping to look at the subway stop light thing . This was a new years am ( big night )

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This end of Claremont could be a real hot spot;

SS last seen on this side.
GC last seen on this side.

JR did she walk this way?
Where were the Swanbourne New Years attacks exactly?



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88mph , the assaults @ New Years is subway , but also the "historic train station" a few years earlier . Means Its usually an opportunity to party time

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