Australia Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #9 *ARREST

[DingDing]

I think I know the answer, but the HJs would not have been 24 hrs back then _________________________________________________________



HJ's was open very late - can't remember if it was 24hrs tho. It was certainly still open past 2am those days.

 

[walobs]

The more we learn about this guy, the more I think this most accurately describes his character.

However, I don't think he would be much above average intelligence. He got away for so long mainly by what can only be surmised as luck, though luck to him is probably him thinking he is more clever than anyone else. There is no evidence we have seen that indicates he is highly intelligent, or highly skilled at anything. He is more low Joe Average and should not be given any smarts credit for the method of his crimes or the time taken to get him.

Poor leadership within WAPOL and MACRO let him get away for so long. Smart detective work caught up with him.

Hey free radical, interesting post, have you read all the posts in the past few threads?
There was an individual who worked with BRE, he was reasonably clear that there was no indication he was below average intelligence and he had to be reasonably smart to be doing the technical work he was doing.

Not really sure intelligence is the reason he has got away with this though, I am willing to bet Macro made blunders that could have solved this quicker but again luck plays a good role and I suspect someone must have known something that in hindsight would have solved this sooner. Will be fascinating to see this unravel.

Is there a reason you think he is of low intelligence? or just a gut feel? would be interested to hear if I have missed something, many thanks.

 

[CSK?]

Been reading this thread for a while - some great contributions on here that's for sure. Just to add a little bit.

I lived in Huntingdale in 1988-1989, and now live in a neighbouring suburb. Assuming BE lived with parents back then in same suburb at time of first known assault. From what I have heard this attack took place in older Huntingdale, near Spencer Road end. This is a fair walk from Gay Street. He probably would have had to have a car parked up somewhere to get away.
Having said that, IIRC the street lighting was very poor then and lights went out at 10pm!

The kimono. It seems DNA was found on it after all these years of being in storage. That's a little hard to believe if true. It doesn't seem to be blood because the photo's don't show any. So if its semen, could it really last that long? I think the defence will dismiss this evidence, especially as the photo shows the cops bare hands holding up the material. Regardless, it does appear to be the item that linked BE.

I had a quick drive by today of the Gay Street location given earlier in the thread. There's no sign of anything out of the ordinary. If WAPOL are aware of this thread, then either the thread is in front of them, or there is nothing to it. There has been no news of any search there. Yet, there must be a strong possibility that BE was living there at the time of the CSK?

I don't think the kimono was found in storage and a DNA sample taken after 28 years, I think it was more likely that the DNA sample was taken after finding the kimono and this sample was stored wih the kimono for 28 years and was recently tested.

 

[DingDing]

I think I know the answer, but the HJs would not have been 24 hrs back then (if it is at all now), would it? IIRC the only 24hr fast food (other than Fast Eddy's) at the time was Maccas at Tuart Hill and maybe Myaree.

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NO!! There was a hamburger stall down Stirling H'Way a bit. Before getting to Mosman Park Open Late. And a hamburger stall on the beach at Cott - open pretty late. AND another in Mounts Bay Road. And I think another in Freo.

No franchised stuff - old fashioned burgers LOL

Plenty to eat when hungry!

 

[janwa]

Konkas Vic Park involved in another tragedy and Hamburger Hill overlooking Perth from behind the casino

 

[walobs]

I don't think the kimono was found in storage and a DNA sample taken after 28 years, I think it was more likely that the DNA sample was taken after finding the kimono and this sample was stored wih the kimono for 28 years and was recently tested.

Was stated in some articles it was part of backlog testing of old cases with new DNA technology(I just presumed 'Touch DNA' testing).

Being 1988 I doubt it had ever had DNA testing done on it for obvious reasons.

 

[jubillee]

Quote Originally Posted by walobs View Post
- his yoda photo i suspect is more to do with haslehoff having thick eyebrows like he does, perhaps he sees himself as yoda-like, or someone has said he looks like the hoff one day.
This is how he sees himself a smart hoff.


.It would worthwhile for a lot of new posters to go back and read previous posts. A lot of info there to answer the questions you are putting up

 

[CuriousOne71]

Lots of drive through HJ's and McD's went 24 hour in the late 80's early 90's. For whatever reason they stopped doing this and didn't start again till the 2000's.

Mounts Bay Rd burger place was called Bernies. Was a great old fashioned American style burger bar.

 

[nattymcgherkin]

We are not allowed to mention other people so I will say BRE comments and likes posts on someones elses page a fair bit.
I have been through it, quite interesting, I am building a fairly good profile of him based upon these threads.

As some have said he is
- above average intelligence
- very concerned about privacy
- no issues with mother
- not an animal lover
- dark sense of humour
- very pedantic about process
- frustrated when others who don't follow process
- probably sees this as a lack of diligence or intelligence by others which frustrates him
- very specific about his use of a variety of emoticons
- strong interest in cars
- his yoda photo i suspect is more to do with haslehoff having thick eyebrows like he does, perhaps he sees himself as yoda-like, or someone has said he looks like the hoff one day.
This is how he sees himself a smart hoff.

Picture painted is one who is frustrated with other peoples shortcomings on occasion, suspect he is highly organized, reasonably intelligent and will think he can outsmart the police.

There is an amazing post that his close relative shares that states
"when you raise your hand to a woman you are no longer a man"
needless to say he does not 'like' this particular post.

I also thought his likes on other people's FB was very telling. He "loved" a post about "I'm sharing this now so my photos and information are not to be used by any other person". Very into online anonymity.

He would have been jealous of me - I sang with the Hoff on stage at his Perth concert! BE is certainly no Hoff. Totally dreaming.

 

[dilettante]

His nickname in school Was Hoff... This was covered some pages back...It would worthwhile for a lot of new posters to go back and read previous posts. A lot of info there to answer the questions you are putting up

Are you sure? His nickname at school was said to be boggs or boggsy too. Unfortunately I can't confirm this as when I go to search I get '

1. This forum requires that you wait 15 seconds between searches. Please try again in 26532 seconds.'
   
   
   I have been reading every post, some of you just have much better memories. Sorry.
   
   Edit: found it http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...n-Australia-8-ARREST*&p=13022034#post13022034

 

[jam sandwich]

I think the Police will keep a low profile now on details they have so I doubt it until the next court hearing

 

[walobs]

4. I know this has been brought up on previous threads, but I would like to know if WAPOL are looking into KT murder from 1991. Considering the Huntingdale attack, his age at the time, the period in comparison to other attacks, the type of pickup/body disposal and the seemingly central location of his possible home address (Hntgdl) between the last sighting of her and where the body was found (Canning Dam), doesn’t this seriously bring the KT attack from 1991 into focus? http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...d/news-story/5fc90319ac3f97ce0eeb3127df726998

Creepy how similar the case specifics sound.

"Police hunted for the vehicle, described by witnesses as a dark blue car, similar to a Datsun 260C, which had spoked wheels, but came up empty-handed."

Glad BRE doesn't have an old blue car out the front of his house.

 

[CuriousOne71]

I think the presumed school nickname was Bogsy. I didn't see any Hoff mention until later on.

 

[CSK?]

4. I know this has been brought up on previous threads, but I would like to know if WAPOL are looking into KT murder from 1991. Considering the Huntingdale attack, his age at the time, the period in comparison to other attacks, the type of pickup/body disposal and the seemingly central location of his possible home address (Hntgdl) between the last sighting of her and where the body was found (Canning Dam), doesn’t this seriously bring the KT attack from 1991 into focus? http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...d/news-story/5fc90319ac3f97ce0eeb3127df726998

The case certainly has similarities and it would be well worth looking into as an early murder victim of BRE, what strikes me is the dump site location from the abduction site is very similar in driving time from abduction point to dump site to that of the known CSK girls, which is about 45 minutes.


Police stated they are reviewing cold cases and sexual assaults from the era so I would be suprised if they did not look into the KT case.

 

[jam sandwich]

Do you think any news will pop up in the next couple of weeks in regards to BRE

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Sorry forgot to reply with quotations before...I think the Police will keep a low profile now until the next court hearing so nothing new will come out

 

[jubillee]

Are you sure? His nickname at school was said to be boggs or boggsy too. Unfortunately I can't confirm this as when I go to search I get '

1. This forum requires that you wait 15 seconds between searches. Please try again in 26532 seconds.'
   
   
   I have been reading every post, some of you just have much better memories. Sorry.

Yes you are correct . It was boggsy..

 

[gajafar]

Quote Originally Posted by walobs View Post
- his yoda photo i suspect is more to do with haslehoff having thick eyebrows like he does, perhaps he sees himself as yoda-like, or someone has said he looks like the hoff one day.
This is how he sees himself a smart hoff.


His nickname in school Was Hoff... This was covered some pages back...It would worthwhile for a lot of new posters to go back and read previous posts. A lot of info there to answer the questions you are putting up

His nickname when at highschool was Bogsy, or Boggs/ Boggsy. This was attested to the Gosnells reunion as well as students calling him by that nickname.

Seems that Hoff is a later nickname he referred himself by and was known by arround the little aths scene. I have seen one video where a local in little aths calls him Hoffy and The Hoff.

Wonder how the Bogsy came about? It was me who mentioned the baywatch thing. I had a memory lapse and thought bayview was the actual name of the show lol. Someone else then came and spoke about the way yoda talks in riddle.

 

[walobs]

Keen to know what the various experts surmised verses what we know about him and what they got right. If the experts are right he is the worst serial killer in Australia (Milat 7-12). I just hope they lock him up – don’t want him to find my IP address. As you were...

To be honest I hope they correctly link him to plenty, the more cases solved the better and most importantly the poor families who have no closure, its beyond cruel.

 

[jubillee]

The Australian reported they were looking into a lot other cold cases as well in regards to him...Will be interesting to see if he stopped at all or if they link him to more recent cases...I have a feeling this will go on for a few years

 

[walobs]

Yes you are correct . It was boggsy..

Any theories on the origins of this?

90% of aussie guy nicknames are surname related so it obviosuly refers to something else either an incident, a play on his name or to do with his personality.

Knowing how aussie guys give nicknames I am thinking it is more to do with the word 'bog'