Australia - Eight children killed in mass stabbing, Cairns, Qld, 19 Dec 2014 *Arrest*

[Ausgirl]

I totally agree with you about Andrea Yates and don't understand people who just want to see her punished when clearly she was ill. It is likely the same kind of scenario in this case. It seems like many were aware that she had gone a bit nuts, but didn't know the signs that she was becoming psychotic and what implications that might have or what to do about it.

Having lived with a psychotic, I damn wish I'd known her. I would have been reporting URGENT attention needed, to DOCS for sure.

The giving stuff away, moving furniture, obsessive thinking, religious mania, paranoia.... all the signs were there that she was heading for a big blow-out. But in my experience, psychotics aren't "raving mad" all the time, they can seem calm and rational at moments, they can gather themselves and seem fairly normal.. for a time... so I can see how even people close to her might not get how close to the brink she was. My mother could smile and charm anyone, look completely harmless, and then she'd come home, stress out and blow out, and I'd be the target of it all.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Also the religious mania, well that can be a bit of a mask because not everyone who 'finds god' is psychotic, and for the most part people would just think 'oh jeez .. she's got religion' and just avoid or ignore her for the most part unless it hit a whole new level, when for at least the early stages people would simply look on with amazement, but not necessarily worry for the safety of her children, which seems to have been what happened here.

It sounds like her boyfriend simply got angry at her and fought with her about her 'crazy' decision making, he probably just thought she was being difficult and unreasonable.

I don't know, from all reports it sounds like the last night was when the psychosis really set in. It is easy to see that the observers who were for the most part teenagers didn't realise she needed an ambulance, and I doubt they would be the types to call the police.

 

[Meryl12]

I think her problems may have started after having her first child at just 14 years old. She was still only a child herself. Without a doubt she would have had problems after being hit on the head with a hammer. Head-aches would only be part of her problems. But for a woman who has had a head injury and probably suffers from headaches to have to raise nine children on her own. I think she may have had a few too many problems to cope with.

 

[Ausgirl]

Also the religious mania, well that can be a bit of a mask because not everyone who 'finds god' is psychotic, and for the most part people would just think 'oh jeez .. she's got religion' and just avoid or ignore her for the most part unless it hit a whole new level, when for at least the early stages people would simply look on with amazement, but not necessarily worry for the safety of her children, which seems to have been what happened here.

It sounds like her boyfriend simply got angry at her and fought with her about her 'crazy' decision making, he probably just thought she was being difficult and unreasonable.

I don't know, from all reports it sounds like the last night was when the psychosis really set in. It is easy to see that the observers who were for the most part teenagers didn't realise she needed an ambulance, and I doubt they would be the types to call the police.

^ Yup, reckon you're right.

Might have to step away from this for a bit. Too many triggers, and tis the season and all. I could sure use some merry after the last week or so of news.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

The woman charged with the murders of seven of her children and one young niece in her Cairns home 'knows what has happened' but it 'hasn't sunk in yet,' her lawyer said today.

Raina Thaiday, 37, who is also known as Mersane Warria, is being held in Cairns Base Hospital on under police guard, and did not appear in court when the charged against her were mentioned today.

'She's presently on an involuntary treatment order, which means she will be assessed so once she has been assessed then it may go to the mental health court at that stage,' her lawyer, Steve Macfarlane, said outside Cairns courthouse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cluding-calling-mobile-phones-work-Devil.html

 

[fedfan4life]

^ Yup, reckon you're right.

Might have to step away from this for a bit. Too many triggers, and tis the season and all. I could sure use some merry after the last week or so of news.

Take care of yourself. I, for one, am very humbled by your experience and am in awe of your ability to be so compassionate in the face of it.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Brother and sister weep at shrine to siblings:

TWO surviving siblings of the children slain in the *Manoora massacre broke down and wept yesterday in a harrowing pilgrimage to the site of one of Australia’s worst mass killings.

Norena Warria and her brother Lewis, 20, supported by Gavin Willie, father of the three youngest victims, paid tribute at the makeshift memorial in Murray St.
“My babies, my babies,” howled Ms Warria. “Why?”

 

[Mrs G Norris]

THE people of Cairns have been urged to watch their kids closely and to reassure them they are safe as they deal with the knowledge that eight children were allegedly murdered by their own mother in the family home.

As the accused woman, Raina Mersane Ina Thaiday, 37, was deemed mentally incapable of making decisions and placed on an involuntary treatment order, concerns were being expressed for the children of the north Queensland city.

http://www.news.com.au/national/que...-stabbing-horror/story-fnj4alav-1227164529188

 

[Mrs G Norris]

THE grandfather of eight children stabbed to death in Cairns has delivered a heartfelt public appeal for children to be cherished.

Rod Willie said the tragedy had directly affected multiple families who were “mindful” of the shocking impact the deaths had on the wider community.

He had a message for those people — to unite during the Christmas period and “hold dear such occasions with family and friends”.

Families needed to regularly offer and seek loving support from one another, he said.

“Children are the most vulnerable of our society whose innocent lives deserve the greatest of love and care,” he said.

“Cherish them.”

http://www.news.com.au/national/gra...-need-protection/story-fncynjr2-1227165933325

 

[Mrs G Norris]

THE children of Murray St will be laid to rest together in Cairns, their grandfather has confirmed.

Mr Willie, the grandfather of seven of the children, gave a statement in Cairns this morning, alongside 11 representatives from the various families linked to the tragedy.

“I cannot today confirm a date for the funeral ceremonies but can share with you the joint decision by our families to lay to rest our eight loved ones together here in Cairns early in the new year,” he said.

http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/c...buried-in-cairns/story-fnjpusyw-1227165932263

 

[fruity]

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...massacre-accused-says-she-still-loves-her-mum

The daughter of the Cairns woman accused of murdering eight children has taken to Facebook to say she loves her mother "no matter what".

"No Matter What, I Am My Mother's Child," Ms Warria wrote.

It is believed that soon before the children were found dead, Ms Thaiday had fought with one of her daughters who had stayed out late.

 

[KG1]

I have just heard on the radio that the funerals of the eight children will be held in Cairns on 10 January 2015. Poor darlings. So, so sad.

 

[Public_Hysteria]

Also the religious mania, well that can be a bit of a mask because not everyone who 'finds god' is psychotic, and for the most part people would just think 'oh jeez .. she's got religion' and just avoid or ignore her for the most part unless it hit a whole new level, when for at least the early stages people would simply look on with amazement, but not necessarily worry for the safety of her children, which seems to have been what happened here.

It sounds like her boyfriend simply got angry at her and fought with her about her 'crazy' decision making, he probably just thought she was being difficult and unreasonable.

I don't know, from all reports it sounds like the last night was when the psychosis really set in. It is easy to see that the observers who were for the most part teenagers didn't realise she needed an ambulance, and I doubt they would be the types to call the police.

B/I by me

I don't think they ever could have imagined what was going to happen that night. No matter if their parent is acting crazy or unusual, I don't think a child would ever believe that parent was going to kill them all.

Such a sad, sad case. After a very long hiatus from this site (for personal reasons) I'm sad to see that some things in this world are still as horrible as they were when I left.

My thoughts and prayers are with the friends and family of all involved, and the greater community, who are reeling with this unspeakable loss.

 

[Public_Hysteria]

Also the religious mania, well that can be a bit of a mask because not everyone who 'finds god' is psychotic, and for the most part people would just think 'oh jeez .. she's got religion' and just avoid or ignore her for the most part unless it hit a whole new level, when for at least the early stages people would simply look on with amazement, but not necessarily worry for the safety of her children, which seems to have been what happened here.

It sounds like her boyfriend simply got angry at her and fought with her about her 'crazy' decision making, he probably just thought she was being difficult and unreasonable.

I don't know, from all reports it sounds like the last night was when the psychosis really set in. It is easy to see that the observers who were for the most part teenagers didn't realise she needed an ambulance, and I doubt they would be the types to call the police.

B/I by me

I don't think they ever could have imagined what was going to happen that night. No matter if their parent is acting crazy or unusual, I don't think a child would ever believe that parent was going to kill them all.

Such a sad, sad case. After a very long hiatus from this site (for personal reasons) I'm sad to see that some things in this world are still as horrible as they were when I left.

My thoughts and prayers are with the friends and family of all involved, and the greater community, who are reeling with this unspeakable loss.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

THE Cairns Convention Centre will be transformed from a basketball arena to a memorial hall overnight with at least 3000 people expected to turn out to mourn the deaths of eight Manoora children.

Moments after the Cairns Taipans and Perth Wildcats leave the floor tonight, preparations will begin to host the Keriba Omasker Memorial – the cultural name given to the funeral for the children, aged two to 14.

Several roads around the CBD will be closed, parking fees will be scrapped for the day and free buses will help transfer mourners in one of the biggest outpourings of grief the city has ever seen.

http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/c...urray-st-tragedy/story-fnjpusyw-1227179140393

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

'No one heard them cry': Tears and flowers over eight tiny coffins as shattered community mourns siblings 'killed by their mother' in Australia's 'house of horrors' massacre

Around 5000 members of the community attended the public service

The memorial was called 'Keriba Omasker', meaning 'our children'

'Prime Minister Tony Abbott and Queensland Premier attended the service

Eight white caskets were laid out in a row at the Cairns Convention Centre

A pastor said there was a 'standing ovation in Heaven' for the children

The funeral procession passed Murray Street where they died

The children were buried in the shape of a sunrise

Many of the mourners wore red to represent the 'playful' children


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...a-s-house-horrors-massacre.html#ixzz3ORokHfc2

 

[newone]

I will be interested to see if there is any MSM coverage of the next court appearance June 24

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...murdering-eight-children-20150130-131xt4.html

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

:bump:

The latest update I could find was from December.

Mother back in court over deaths of eight Cairns children

The woman charged over the deaths of eight children at a Cairns home two years ago is still before the courts for murder.

In one of Queensland's worst tragedies, the four boys and four girls aged between two and 14 years were found dead at their Murray Street home in Manoora on December 19, 2014.

Her case remains before the Cairns Magistrates Court but has been adjourned several times pending investigations into her mental health.

Cairns massacre brother Lewis Warria racked over attack that claimed eight siblings - April 2016

The elder brother of seven children killed in their Cairns home has spoken about the massacre for the first time, saying he wished he had been home to save them.

Lewis Warria, 21, has described the horror he confronted late in the morning of December 19, 2014, when he arrived at 34 Murray St, Manoora, where his mother, Raina Thaiday, four brothers and three sisters had lived for more than three years.

He said when he entered the home it was like something from “a scary movie”.

“They looked like they were asleep when it happened. That’s the thing that makes me angry,” he said.

“I didn’t know what to do. I just walked up and down in the yard. Mum was sitting on the veranda. I was just walking up and down like I didn’t know what to do.”

He said he kept thinking it was not real but the reality sunk in the next morning when he had to formally identify his siblings for the police. He is still haunted by the memory.

Family to mourn in private on second anniversary of Murray St deaths

The family of eight children allegedly murdered in a Manoora house will privately grieve on the second anniversary of their deaths today.

Manoora Community Advisory Group president Onokura Kata said the family wanted to keep their remembrance private this year.

Eight frangipani trees were unveiled on the Murray St site last year in honour of the children, aged two to 15, and Mr Kata said the family were still working on installing a more permanent memorial.

He said they hoped plaques could be unveiled early next year.

“The one thing they are looking forward to is the plaques,” Mr Kata said.

 

[sosocurious]

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...r-to-kill-eight-children-20170503-gvyf42.html

'Schizophrenia at its very depths' drove mother to kill eight children

Just so very sad.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

Other articles from May:

Father of slain Cairns children breaks silence

Mr Willie, father to the four youngest slain children – in one of Australia’s worst domestic mass murders – revealed killer Raina Thaiday, his partner of 11 years, has not explained why she executed his family.

He’s also yet to hear her say she’s sorry.

“Whether she went to a criminal court or not, it doesn’t change anything, I still don’t have my kids.

“Nothing will bring them back.’’

Raina Thaiday: Mentally ill Cairns mother will not be prosecuted for killing eight children

Raina Thaiday will never face trial for killing seven of her children and her niece because she has been diagnosed with cannabis-induced paranoid schizophrenia and believed she was trying to save them from the end of the world.

Justice Dalton said Thaiday was still seriously ill and ordered she be kept medicated in hospital, with only “escorted leave” from the grounds allowed.

“Mrs Thaiday had a mental illness that deprived her of capacity at the time of the killing; she is entitled to the defence of unsoundness of mind,” Justice Dalton found, adding that six psychiatrists had backed the decision.