There were no marks on the grill, no prints, no indication that the dust had been disturbed. This has been bothering me a bit, because I find it very hard to believe anyone could run at a knife, have it stick 7 inches into their body and they wouldn't use their hands on the grill that is just inches from their skin. Not even to push away.
Williams' comments would have us suppose that Jenny could have died on the knife and, while she remained on her feet, the knife somehow held her weight up for maybe "an hour" without deepening the wound or producing gravity-borne tearing, and without Jenny touching or leaning on the grill inches from her face. Or getting a single smirch of blood on the wrapped handle of the knife, nor bleeding onto the white stones below though she would have been coughing up blood that was filling her lungs. Okay. :no: He's a professor. Why would he even suggest this?
I think Jenny was stabbed, and the knife pushed into the grill afterwards. That's what I think, at this point.
There were no marks on the grill, no prints, no indication that the dust had been disturbed. This has been bothering me a bit, because I find it very hard to believe anyone could run at a knife, have it stick 7 inches into their body and they wouldn't use their hands on the grill that is just inches from their skin. Not even to push away.
Williams' comments would have us suppose that Jenny could have died on the knife and, while she remained on her feet, the knife somehow held her weight up for maybe "an hour" without deepening the wound or producing gravity-borne tearing, and without Jenny touching or leaning on the grill inches from her face. Or getting a single smirch of blood on the wrapped handle of the knife, nor bleeding onto the white stones below though she would have been coughing up blood that was filling her lungs. Okay. :no: He's a professor. Why would he even suggest this?
I think Jenny was stabbed, and the knife pushed into the grill afterwards. That's what I think, at this point.
We think alike, Ausgirl. That's exactly what I said in another forum very late last night/early this morning.
It would have been impossible to lodge the knife solidly in the gap between the window frame and wall without leaving evidence. Impossible.
The knife was sharp -- like a sword, PC said. I defy anyone to jam a sharp knife into a gap solidly enough to take the force of a human body hitting it ..... without leaving a trace
How? How could it be done, without grasping the knife? And if you grasped the knife to wedge it in, you would have to leave either finger-prints or use gloves. Yet the forensic people said there was not one trace upon the knife or on the window frame
So did the forensics people lie? Were they incompetent? Did they deliberately fail to find prints or glove signs? Did they erase whatever prints existed to protect someone?
The only possible method for wedging that knife without using hands/gloves would be if a tool were used to grip the knife handle -- which would make it premeditated murder
As there were no tools in evidence near Jenny's body, how could it be explained?
Would investigators claim Jenny herself used a tool (like big tweezers, but I can't think of their name) and as there were no tools near her body, would investigators claim Jenny went to the trouble to find the appropriate tool in order to wedge the knife next to the frame, after which she returned the tool to the tool box? What then? Did Jenny thrust herself on the knife?
See how insane it is? Why would Jenny care if her prints were on the window frame or knife? She was going to kill herself a moment later, wasn't she? Why would she care if her prints or glove marks were found ?
No. Jenny had no reason to care if she left prints on the knife or window frame. So if Jenny wedged that knife there, the scene would be full of her prints
yet investigators claim there were none -- none whatsoever, and no glove marks either
Therefore, it had to be someone else who wedged the knife into place. And that someone else clearly did not want to be identified and thus went to a lot of trouble to erase all trace of themselves. They did a very thorough job. Such a good job, forensics claim there was not a trace of prints or even glove marks on the dusty window frame
My other pre-dawn ramblings elsewhere involved the sheer craziness of Prof. Williams' suggestion a human body could remain impaled for an hour on a knife jammed in a window frame
It defies physics and gravity. So much so, I'd like Prof. Williams to illustrate his theory. Or, as I said elsewhere, let's get the Myth Busters to run their dummy onto a knife in a window frame, to see how long it remains upright
If Jenny had run herself onto the knife, her legs would have buckled whether she wanted them to or not. They would not have remained flexed and capable of maintaining her in an upright position for five minutes, let alone an hour. Frankly my dear, it's my opinion the professor is raving ...
As I've said, everything points to Jenny being stabbed by someone else -- someone well-prepared to the point they had a sheet of wood (and plastic ?) ready to absorb the mess. So again, premeditated
Jenny was stabbed by someone else who staged the scene
Whether or not Jenny's killer wedged the knife in the window-frame gap beforehand, we don't know just yet, remembering the forensics people claimed there was no sign of fingers or gloves on the window frame, which had a coating of dust
So maybe the killer planned it some weeks in advance, at which point they jammed the knife in the frame. Then stabbed Jenny with an identical knife which was disposed of. Plenty of time for disposal, remember. It was said in the coronial findings that Jenny had been dead for up to eight or so hours before being discovered. The killer had loads of time to dispose of a knife
Only problem with that theory is, it would require for Jenny not to go down that side of the house, or she would have seen the knife sticking out next to the frame and asked/wondered why it was there
unless the killer told her it was an old army security method, you know ... wedge knives into the window frames to slash possible intruders. Would she have found that acceptable?
Or, maybe the killer blocked off that side of the house to conceal the knife sticking out next to the frame? Maybe the side of the house was blocked off while the killer did some landscaping?