LegallyBrunette
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In my view, the alleged perp's partner is a victim in this too!
And his children.
In my view, the alleged perp's partner is a victim in this too!
Just a further comment. At an 18th male birthday party last night, it was reported that many were discussing this case at some point with appropriate dismay and sadness for Jill. Even our young men can see the gravity and tragedy of this offence. My opinion only.
"Even our young men". Seriously? Do you actually think young men are generally not capable of feeling the same sorrow and empathy as the rest of society?
There have been some scary and untrue generalisations about men in this thread, and in the media about this whole case.
An equal amount of guys were there who were all very sombre about the case and most of them discussed how if they saw a female walking home alone in future, they would offer to escort.
And his children.
Well said ..... I haven't heard any out pouring of grief for the Gosford man murdered by his girlfriend last night
Well said ..... I haven't heard any out pouring of grief for the Gosford man murdered by his girlfriend last night
You just KNOW what the defence will be. Give me strength:banghead:
domestic violence ending in death is an awful tragedy but is it really comparable to the murder of a random stranger who was innocently walking home?
His defence will have the option of asking that the trial be held in a different jurisdiction (not Victoria) if it is perceived that public feeling is so high as to jeopardise a fair trial. From memory this happened with Bradley John Murdoch, trial for murder of Peter Falconio. The trial was eventually held in Darwin.
http://www.nt.gov.au/justice/dpp/docs/cases/falconio/falconio_mt_031113.pdf
13 November 2003
The Territory is about to face a media block out should the case for the extradition of the man wanted for the suspected murder of Peter Falconio prove successful in the Adelaide Magistrates Court this morning. Lawyers of Forty- five year old Bradley John Murdoch, will oppose the extradition by challenging the validity of the warrant, which alleges Murdoch murdered Falconio and lawfully detained his girlfriend Joanna Lees, back in July of 2001. Detectives from the Northern Territory have flown to Adelaide for the hearing, they expect to return to Darwin tomorrow with Murdoch in their custody. Now interstate papers have already been restricted into the Territory and what you will hear from now on will be severely curtailed due to strict contempt laws in place to protect the right to a fair trial and the impartial hearing and also to maintain the authority of the courts.
domestic violence ending in death is an awful tragedy but is it really comparable to the murder of a random stranger who was innocently walking home?
I think murder is comparable to murder, yes.
The trend of the thread continues with the assumption that this man was not innocent, and therefore was asking for it. I don't know the facts of the case so I don't know if that's true or not, but why is that assumption allowed when if anyone (wrongly) assumed the same about Jill there would be hell to pay?
I think murder is comparable to murder, yes.
The trend of the thread continues with the assumption that this man was not innocent, and therefore was asking for it. I don't know the facts of the case so I don't know if that's true or not, but why is that assumption allowed when if anyone (wrongly) assumed the same about Jill there would be hell to pay?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...an-ernest-bayley/story-e6frg6n6-1226485743514
'Mr Lay said while social media had been very helpful during the investigation, it also posed difficulties.
"It is disappointing and when you see the hatred that's incited by some of these sites,'' he said. "It is very much the antithesis of what we saw yesterday with 30,000 people taking to the streets saying 'let's try and make this a safer and fairer community''
WTF where has anyone said he was not innocent or he was asking for it?
you're assuming the lack of grief is based solely on gender, but IMO it is the circumstances that have resonated with people so strongly, how easily it could have been any one of us.
Look how quick some people were to wrongly assume that Jills husband had harmed her.
Australian offender/victim relationship stats:
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide/victim-offender.aspx
Below are some american stats - higher % of stranger-murders (and also higher murder rate overall) which might explain the more wary attitude of some US posters on here
"Statistics have shown that nearly half of all murder victims actually knew their murderer. In fact, 20 percent of murders involve family members. So even though we hear the horror stories of serial killers, or random unsolved murders, your chances are much higher of being killed by someone you know, maybe even someone you love. 1 in 4 female murder victims are killed by their husband or boyfriend."