chekoutchik
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Do you have any evidence of hard-labour causing prisoners to become a danger to society when released? Just wondering...
"Brutalised" was never mentioned and I'm not up for that at all. Hard-labour was and my question was if you had any evidence whether or not hard-labour caused released prisoners to become dangerous when released from prison???
My hubby hard-labours by choice as he is a landscaper. The only time he seems to get down is when work is slow and then he kills too much time on FB and in front of the TV as he's depressed.
The guys/girls we hire to help don't seem to have an issue working bloody hard carrying up to 3 bags of concrete on their shoulders at a hit, etc. They all seem cheerful and upbeat.
I use to type judgments for a magistrate in Moree. One of his concerns, and he had me type this for him, was that the young criminals found the whole experience fun, would re-offend to go to jail on purpose and would recommend the experience to their friends.
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So, why should our taxes go to funding expensive sports (i.e. snooker, swimming), tv's, movies, personal fitness trainers, bespoke on-site courses, tertiary education, etc while many elderly and young are deprived of even the basic living standards?
I question your hypothesis. Please give me an example of how it helps to pamper criminals anyone?
Originally Posted by chekoutchik
Do you have any evidence of hard-labour causing prisoners to become a danger to society when released? Just wondering...
Firstly, I think it stands to reason that if a person is brutalized (and lets face it, some prison warders in the past were as bad or worse than the prisoners - ie Goulburn Jail for one), then that person is going to come out a brutalized person and unable to cope in any way in a normal society - likely to hit out at the first person who crosses them, or is perceived to cross them. Incarceration on its own can take a very long time of adjustment, especially if a long sentence. Posting a link, which delves into past history of jail treatment - UK origins, which is what Australia followed as a colony.
http://vcp.e2bn.org/gaols/page11685-an-overview-of-rehabilitation-and-reform.html
"Brutalised" was never mentioned and I'm not up for that at all. Hard-labour was and my question was if you had any evidence whether or not hard-labour caused released prisoners to become dangerous when released from prison???
My hubby hard-labours by choice as he is a landscaper. The only time he seems to get down is when work is slow and then he kills too much time on FB and in front of the TV as he's depressed.
The guys/girls we hire to help don't seem to have an issue working bloody hard carrying up to 3 bags of concrete on their shoulders at a hit, etc. They all seem cheerful and upbeat.
I use to type judgments for a magistrate in Moree. One of his concerns, and he had me type this for him, was that the young criminals found the whole experience fun, would re-offend to go to jail on purpose and would recommend the experience to their friends.
<modsnip>
So, why should our taxes go to funding expensive sports (i.e. snooker, swimming), tv's, movies, personal fitness trainers, bespoke on-site courses, tertiary education, etc while many elderly and young are deprived of even the basic living standards?
I question your hypothesis. Please give me an example of how it helps to pamper criminals anyone?