Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #2

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Welcome Tal! I'm only relatively new at posting too; watching these minds work while lurking is pretty amazing stuff!

I've gotta say too, that I lean towards husband; but I think that might be partly because I've been all over Allison Baden-clay lol
 
Puggle said:
I think it was in the last thread....sorry I cant remember who posted it.....but it was a valid point.

Anthony Rickard came to our attention....he gets his front page on the Herald Sun......... Maybe he was simply at Bunnings for the same reason most us.........I freakin love Bunnings...sometimes I dont have a real reson to be there.lol....B.nnings have magical powers??

Much was made of his manic postings on the 29th a.m........but the poster was right.......we didnt have postings prior to that date to work out a pattern of behavour to know if those posting were sus or out if the norm and meant anything. ... .a trip to Bunnings may simply of been that....lol...we all love Bunnings........maybe nothing sinister at all..

But I will say he has manipulated his FB page in a way to suggest possible involvement. ......utilizing privacy controls ..... airing posts at suggestive times to cause speculation.............hence me saying its like a game is being played......


Its all a little too wrapped up in a bow for me....... reasonable doubt...subterfuge. ..... Apart from what we are being fed.....and i do feel we are being fed......what evidence...tangible proof of anything has been on offer?

The media has been a sensational stinker in this case.....
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I agree I think he's manipulating his postings to look guilty too, maybe in some weird warped way to protect his father because deep down he suspects him? Who knows .. He's a seriously mixed up dude, so maybe there are a number of conflicting motivations behind his rants.
 
Let me suppose:

My thoughts have been so far a stranger theory, behind the house.

I had a good think and im going pose a slightly new scanario.

"All is not as it seems"

Seriously at this point i have to come back to AR. A split personality possibly due to childhood problems, recent use of Ice. I have no way of knowing what \how the thought process works when on that drug.

I can't see anywhere that AR has any kind of an alibi bar a pharmacy stamp which may or may not be accurate?

I would suspect, with his 5 phones recently he has some acquaintances that he has interacted with while on Ice.

So Ar and a suspect to a certain degree, is my thinking. When the acquaintance came into play im unsure.

The argument over finances which may have occurred before wasnt what took place. I believe it was a argument about meeting AR, possible to hand over money not entirely sure.

Police trying to get forensics, but without a body!.
 
The pharmacy stamp - if that's a methadone dose then that can't be faked, he has to get it himself. I don't know that it was for methadone but to me it seems a likelihood.
 
In advance, I apologise for speaking of Karen as though she is dead. I hope she is hiding/hidden somewhere and will be found alive.

But.

The thought and action process of someone on ice is definitely volatile and violent and explosive. Also disorganised,thoughtless, and not able to clean up a mess. If she had been knocked over the head by ice addicts, they'd have taken the $850, dumped the Coach handbag, and ran off to their dealer. The body would have been left where it lay.
 
Madge_Ick_Dike said:
In advance, I apologise for speaking of Karen as though she is dead. I hope she is hiding/hidden somewhere and will be found alive.

But.

The thought and action process of someone on ice is definitely volatile and violent and explosive. Also disorganised,thoughtless, and not able to clean up a mess. If she had been knocked over the head by ice addicts, they'd have taken the $850, dumped the Coach handbag, and ran off to their dealer. The body would have been left where it lay.
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Agree. Things would have been far more evident and traceable.

And just to add another thought - quite honestly, without some independent confirmation of what Karen was wearing and carrying when she disappeared, I cannot even feel confident that Karen was wearing/carrying those items. Yes, those items may be missing too, but I think of all the things that Novy Chardon 'took with her' when she 'left' ............
 
Madge_Ick_Dike said:
The pharmacy stamp - if that's a methadone dose then that can't be faked, he has to get it himself. I don't know that it was for methadone but to me it seems a likelihood.
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For heroin addiction? Has anyone said he has also been addicted to heroin at any point, has he?
 
AR admits to ringing Karen 10 days prior to her going missing - what for? To let her know he was going to have her charged - exposed ? Why not just do what he was going to do, why ring her? Was he trying to blackmail her?

I'm starting to think along the lines of Unit45 - the argument was about finances alright, but was it about paying blackmail money?

Was she planning to leave without a trace for a while, if that's what she did? Did Borce know about this? I doubt it if he was the one to report her missing, or was it someone else when she didn't show up for work? If he didn't, why do TV interviews etc, was this for Sarah's sake only?

For AR to tell the world that she's run off and come out with the "allegations" 16 days after she went missing - why then? Was he expecting her to show up and respond? Had he given her a certain amount of time to come up with the cash?

I understand he doesn't think like most people, I just can't understand why - when it had been said in MSM that Karen was "presumed murdered" not just missing - just his 15 minutes of fame? To be upset with all the nice comments about Karen just doesn't cut it for me.


Far too many questions.
 
I cant see any reports of forencis testing of a home computer at Karen's house. Her personal laptop?

Internet searches, emails etc.

Thats something that has to be looked at.

Also have employees of her business been interviewed, im sure they have.

Something that is bugging me, AR's 5 phones where are they, dumped?
 
I may have missed it but what time did Borce report Karen missing? He has stated that she left their home on foot at 10:00am. How long did he wait to report her missing? Was it lunch time, later in the afternoon or that evening? Did he ring around to family, friends and staff in the hope of finding Karen, or only asked the neighbours about their CCTV footage?

AR seems to be a bit confused (and that is an understatement) about when he first heard that Karen was missing. He has stated that he first heard of her disappearance via MSM but has stated elsewhere that his father Borce had phoned him to let him know that Karen was missing. :confused:

I'm also wondering if Karen actually had the $850 in her bag at all. This may have been a furphy to simply plant the seed that Karen may have been attacked and robbed.
 
Emzy67 said:
I'm wondering if the police would be watching the FB page closely and hoping that someone will slip up or they find a clue to assist. I would think it'd be quite rare to have such public rants to monitor in cases like this. Don't bad guys usually go to ground...or try to? Red herring?
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Emzy, the police would be closely monitoring all social media in relation to Karen Ristevski. With the advent of social media police now have specialist squads solely to monitor it.
 
Took Basil the British Bulldog for a drive down Oakley this morning. Garage open with 2 grey cars......one with a "P" plate (guessing that might be Sarah's). There were 3 men standing opposite from the house with another short fellow with his back towards me - I noticed he had grey hair so I am not sure if that was Borce or not. I didn't want to look to obvious of course so I really couldn't get a good look of the men. Off course I wanted another look so I stopped parked a street away and took Basil for a walk past - garage doors closed, with nobody in sight.

The river was busy today. No police in sight.
 
There is another FB page called 'Where is Karen Ristevski' now!
 
emirates1957 said:
Took Basil the British Bulldog for a drive down Oakley this morning. Garage open with 2 grey cars......one with a "P" plate (guessing that might be Sarah's). There were 3 men standing opposite from the house with another short fellow with his back towards me - I noticed he had grey hair so I am not sure if that was Borce or not. I didn't want to look to obvious of course so I really couldn't get a good look of the men. Off course I wanted another look so I stopped parked a street away and took Basil for a walk past - garage doors closed, with nobody in sight.

The river was busy today. No police in sight.
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Thanks for the update Em.

So theres a pretty good chance the daughter does live at home..... I know some people were asking earlier on if she did.

I think she most likely does ......kids just don't move early these days...

For me personally it rules out the Mum going missing the previous night ....
 
Just wondering if any of the locals have visited her boutique in Taylors Lakes? If not I might pop over during the week.
 
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