Still Missing Australia - Lynette Dawson, 34, Sydney, Jan 1982 *Arrest* #3

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I have not been able to verify this but it's worth noting that in the WIKI entry for Chris Dawson the police have charged him with sexual relations with a child with age between 10 and seventeen. Which is to stay they aren't sure that they can prove age sixteen. However if what MD said, which I am sure she won't repeat in any carnal knowledge trial, that CD and JC were sleeping together over the xmas at the end of 81, then that makes her 16 which carries a much higher penalty (Teacher and pupil relationship) .

One other matter with respect to this . LD was intoxicated in some way the night she went missing. I'm sure in one of HT's podcasts it is mentioned that CD had done this to LD before , so that he and JC could have sex under his roof. Either HT made that up or JC stated that at some point - possibly in one of the coroner's inquests. JC is not well known for telling the truth.
JC was 17 christmas 81 not 16.
BUT....we can prove she and CD where in a committed relationship starting sometime in 1980 which does confirm her to be 16 when he told her he was hers forever or to that effect.

I haven't seen anything to suggest JC a liar?
Can you extend on what you believe she isn't telling the truth about?
 
The Defence, in saying that a man could love two women at once, is missing the entire point. Chris is not on trial because of his feelings. It is because of his actions.( The evidence so far has not suggested that CD loved his wife anyway, and JC was still his teenage student, so the assertion is factually incorrect anyway)
 
Is there any chance this could be a strategy? I can't see any other reason that her defense could be so inept.
It wouldn't do much for Pauline David's career if it is a tactic. Though you can bet she is being very well paid for embarrassing herself with all those ridiculous claims the past few days.

Speaking of money. I read somewhere Chris Dawson applied for legal aid for this trial and was knocked back. If that is correct, this trial will be costing him a fortune!
 
Yeah, sure, he loved Lyn as well as his mistress. I'm sure Lyn really felt the love (even when it came in the form of insults and blows).
It is unlikely that CD has loved or respected any woman in his life. He met LD as a teenager (legally considered a child) and ruined her life with cruelty, intimidation and disrespect. He met JC as a teenager (legally considered a child) and treated her the same way. He has been outrageously cruel to LD's mother and sister. and the list I'm sure goes on.. His sister-in-law was very disrespected in many ways. I'm not sure why she condones his outrageous contempt for women.
I wonder if he is enjoying the attention he is receiving throughout this process.
The long term scars he has inflicted on so many people, seem to be of no concern to him.
Shameful behaviour.
The damage continues to be metred out via his Defence team, with character assassinations of every person who dares to speak their truth.
I shudder to think of the cruelty and disrespect and ongoing trauma that the students may have experienced.
 
Wonder what year JC left school?

Was JC's January 1982 South West Rocks trip with her school friends a pre-HSC get together or a 'schoolies' celebration of them having completed HSC in 1981?

Did JC move in with Chris Dawson in January 1982 - immediately after Lyn disappeared - while about to attend again the same school Chris taught at?

In her evidence Pauline David conceded 'Chris Dawson was having an affair with JC.' Surely there are future repercussions for Dawson with that statement because JC hadn't turned 18 by the time Lyn disappeared.
I know Chris and Paul taught at several schools in Sydney after they finished at Cromer High.

I think he might have gone to Asquith Boys High and maybe Paul at Forest High. A Daily Mail article said at the time of Lyn's disappearance Chris was at Cromer and Paul at Forest. As the disappearance was in the big school holidays I am not sure if he lasted the year at Cromer.

JC's sister said in her statement that JC had finished her HSC when at SW Rocks.

There was an article in the Manly Daily called "Love in Year 10 Inquest told of schoolbag notes Dawson gave different accounts of wife court told" by Honda Abu-Ali says that JC became a baby sitter in 1980. This was from 27 February 2003 which was about the time of the second inquest.
 
...just some words that come to mind after reading how the bar's arguments are playing out...

The Prosecution:
Succinct, pointed, clear, conclusive

The Defence:
Yada yada yada...i've lost control of the paperwork
 
Is there any chance this could be a strategy? I can't see any other reason that her defense could be so inept.
There is always that small window... every trial has that possibility. This one, ( and there is a tactical reason for it) is being held as a judge only trial. There are no jurors. This is the defendants choice. NSW and the ACT have this provision, no other states have it..

It is my opinion, that Dawson, as advised by his barrister bro , has gone for a judge only trial, because a jury is a volatile thing, it can get out of hand, it is subjected to pressures, and inferences, and influences from each juror, that makes it a nerve wracking exercise for one accused of murder. Dawson would not have had any control over how many women on his jury, it would depend on how many were rostered for that duty.

I doubt if he would want to be judged by women. Especially women of a certain age. He took his chances and got a male judge, that was just luck.

This leaves the judge in a position of terrific responsibility, but that's what judges do. Which is why the judge is hurling back the defence nonsense, he has the power to do that in the absence of a jury. If a jury was present, he would not do that, as it may influence a jury in to thinking he is on one side or the other. But a judge only trial leaves that judge with the provision to knock rubbish on the head without a lot of by your leave, and if the learned barrister would permit, and so on and so forth.

It still does not mean that the judge has come to a conclusion, it merely means he is not allowing the trial to bog down and go down unnecessary rabbit holes, over and over.

Keeping in mind, that this is Dawson's choice. He could have told his story to a jury, and chances are that he may have found 3 or 4 sympathetic to his cause. He appears to not be in any way considering telling his story to a judge. Under no circumstances, apparently.
 
...just some words that come to mind after reading how the bar's arguments are playing out...

The Prosecution:
Succinct, pointed, clear, conclusive

The Defence:
Yada yada yada...i've lost control of the paperwork
I suspect that the barrister brother came up with this legal rep, on the basis of perhaps cost, and not previous success. I cant find anywhere on the legal calendar going back where she has appeared for a murder charge. I think this could be her first, but that's just a guess, I only looked thru NSW dockets.

These people were cheap, always cheap, and the barrister bro would be instructing her, to cut costs, etc......
 
I suspect that the barrister brother came up with this legal rep, on the basis of perhaps cost, and not previous success. I cant find anywhere on the legal calendar going back where she has appeared for a murder charge. I think this could be her first, but that's just a guess, I only looked thru NSW dockets.

These people were cheap, always cheap, and the barrister bro would be instructing her, to cut costs, etc......
Thats interesting sleuthing Troops and makes sense the way its been playing out!
On top of all that she received the brief only a month before the trial as i understand...
 
There is always that small window... every trial has that possibility. This one, ( and there is a tactical reason for it) is being held as a judge only trial. There are no jurors. This is the defendants choice. NSW and the ACT have this provision, no other states have it..

It is my opinion, that Dawson, as advised by his barrister bro , has gone for a judge only trial, because a jury is a volatile thing, it can get out of hand, it is subjected to pressures, and inferences, and influences from each juror, that makes it a nerve wracking exercise for one accused of murder. Dawson would not have had any control over how many women on his jury, it would depend on how many were rostered for that duty.

I doubt if he would want to be judged by women. Especially women of a certain age. He took his chances and got a male judge, that was just luck.

This leaves the judge in a position of terrific responsibility, but that's what judges do. Which is why the judge is hurling back the defence nonsense, he has the power to do that in the absence of a jury. If a jury was present, he would not do that, as it may influence a jury in to thinking he is on one side or the other. But a judge only trial leaves that judge with the provision to knock rubbish on the head without a lot of by your leave, and if the learned barrister would permit, and so on and so forth.

It still does not mean that the judge has come to a conclusion, it merely means he is not allowing the trial to bog down and go down unnecessary rabbit holes, over and over.

Keeping in mind, that this is Dawson's choice. He could have told his story to a jury, and chances are that he may have found 3 or 4 sympathetic to his cause. He appears to not be in any way considering telling his story to a judge. Under no circumstances, apparently.
What I don't like is that Chris Dawson hasn't gone on the stand but in the closing argument. There has been no testimony that has said that Chris still loved Lyn. He has never said it under oath or made any remarks that way so why is it in the closing. None of the telephone calls are under oath. Pauline David is very subtle in her suggestions. She is using terms like could. Not did.


"Christopher Michael Dawson could love two women at the same time, his murder trial has been told."

I would take from that as being a possibility not fact.
 
I suspect that the barrister brother came up with this legal rep, on the basis of perhaps cost, and not previous success. I cant find anywhere on the legal calendar going back where she has appeared for a murder charge. I think this could be her first, but that's just a guess, I only looked thru NSW dockets.

These people were cheap, always cheap, and the barrister bro would be instructing her, to cut costs, etc......
I heard on the podcasts that Greg Walsh often had mates rates and did a lot of the work himself.
 
Thats interesting sleuthing Troops and makes sense the way its been playing out!
On top of all that she received the brief only a month before the trial as i understand...
I think, but I don't know for sure that others would have been approached, as a sort of brotherhood thing , among barristers, to represent a fellow barristers brother, but , and here we sink into merely my conclusions, backed by nothing but instinct, that people shied off, backed away, the stink surrounding this being just a tad too strong for even a highly placed Sydney barrister.

And believe me, the average Sydney Barrister has asbestos gloves and takes on anything, this one had barnacles on it.

I really think that the brief for this case did the rounds, and wound up on this ladies desk, and came to a full stop, there being no where else to go.

Which is not to say she isn't doing her very best, she has a ridiculous story to float, and no one would find that easy. For what she has, she has gone in to bat , guns blazing..
 
In a judge only trial, the opposing barristers get very little leeway to muck around, floating theories, inferring, influencing, entertaining the jury etc.. It's all business, usually ,, under these circumstances, it means the barristers are on their very best mettle as well. What can sometimes be a long leash to run in on in a jury trial has no place in a judge only event.

The judge 's bottom line, is not to get appealed against. That is, his verdict will naturally be appealed against, but for his verdict to be upheld by his brother judges is the main goal of a judge in this circumstance, and not to have his verdict vacated, or found to be a misjudgement, or horror of horrors, riddled with a chain of incremental bad decisions all along the process.. That is every judge's nightmare.
 
I think, but I don't know for sure that others would have been approached, as a sort of brotherhood thing , among barristers, to represent a fellow barristers brother, but , and here we sink into merely my conclusions, backed by nothing but instinct, that people shied off, backed away, the stink surrounding this being just a tad too strong for even a highly placed Sydney barrister.

And believe me, the average Sydney Barrister has asbestos gloves and takes on anything, this one had barnacles on it.

I really think that the brief for this case did the rounds, and wound up on this ladies desk, and came to a full stop, there being no where else to go.

Which is not to say she isn't doing her very best, she has a ridiculous story to float, and no one would find that easy. For what she has, she has gone in to bat , guns blazing..
I tend to agree that she has gone guns blazing. She has attacked every witness. Some of the attacks such as Damian Loone were very accusatory going to extremes. I wonder if the same attacks would have occurred on someone currently in the police force.
 
I suspect that the barrister brother came up with this legal rep, on the basis of perhaps cost, and not previous success. I cant find anywhere on the legal calendar going back where she has appeared for a murder charge. I think this could be her first, but that's just a guess, I only looked thru NSW dockets.

These people were cheap, always cheap, and the barrister bro would be instructing her, to cut costs, etc......
Chris Dawson first used Pauline David about 30 years ago when he was interviewed by the police. A copy of the video clip featuring the pair is often included in articles about Dawson.

I'm sure there were much more eminently qualified mouth pieces out there for a murder trial but yes, his budget and his tight fist would have probably have excluded those possibilities.
 
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