Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #10

[Roseberry]

This large detached property was last sold in Sept 2004 for £680000. It would not be cheap to rent even back in 1983-1986

Seems last sold 1995 and surname associated with it is Dutch.....?

 

[brjakj]

This gives a really good description of the whole property https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/37571761#/?channel=RES_BUY

And this seems to be written by a descendant of the owners The Manser family and Mottynsden Manor, Burwash

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

His vagueness about East Sussex is revealing. He must have known many of the quiet country roads and local B&Bs including Oast Houses. It would be easy to disorientate someone with so many tiny villages and hamlets in that area.

 

[centred]

It was stolen in 1994.


How are you finding it on YT? I've tried searching for links to the movie online and I can't find it anywhere.

 

[Roseberry]

This gives a really good description of the whole property https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/37571761#/?channel=RES_BUY

And this seems to be written by a descendant of the owners The Manser family and Mottynsden Manor, Burwash

I think that's the Manor, not the Lodge, or more specifically a smaller flat in the lodge? See below.
It looks as if the Lodge has been in the same family for a while and maybe the associated Oast B&B still has visitor records. Have family details from Debrett's not sure if can post.

 

[gymtonic]

By the credits I’m not sure this is the right one.

 

[brjakj]

This gives a really good description of the whole property https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/37571761#/?channel=RES_BUY

And this seems to be written by a descendant of the owners The Manser family and Mottynsden Manor, Burwash

I think that's the Manor, not the Lodge, or more specifically a smaller flat in the lodge? See below.
It looks as if the Lodge has been in the same family for a while and maybe the associated Oast B&B still has visitor records. Have family details from Debrett's not sure if can post.

Yes it mentions the outbuildings. It was just so people can get an idea of the property

 

[brjakj]

I think that's the Manor, not the Lodge, or more specifically a smaller flat in the lodge? See below.
It looks as if the Lodge has been in the same family for a while and maybe the associated Oast B&B still has visitor records. Have family details from Debrett's not sure if can post.

Also, by the baptism record, they would have been there around 1984. The sale was 1995 so probably too late

 

[centred]

By the credits I’m not sure this is the right one.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334607/

I think it was a false path , so i will ignore thanks ,

Just confirming ..It was said she was a teacher ? Is that correct ?
And FR was also a teacher is that correct ?

 

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334607/

Maybe , I will recheck the path i took

 

[Roseberry]

Also, by the baptism record, they would have been there around 1984. The sale was 1995 so probably too late

Last sale before 1995, so possibly still in same family around 1984 and available to rent?

 

[ChrysStevenson]

Good find, but this seems to be a different film. MC is not credited nor the director of her film, Mark Thoma.

 

[Roseberry]

Last sale before 1995, so possibly still in same family around 1984 and available to rent?

Larger property owned under this family surname for years: outbuildings rented and oast B&B? Interesting surname.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

By the credits I’m not sure this is the right one.

Me either

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334607/

I think it was a false path , so i will ignore thanks ,

Just confirming ..It was said she was a teacher ? Is that correct ?
And FR was also a teacher is that correct ?

I don’t know if she is a teacher.. I found a teacher in itzig posted a pic yesterday in this thread and a link to the school magazine.. coincidently there is also a Remakel associated with this school

 

[Roseberry]

The Lodge in the V family for many years: Mr Aka maybe rented smaller flat attached to Lodge in 1980' (see property report for Flat above). There's also a nearby Oast B & B to stay at for MB later on. MB given an itinerary of familiar places to stay at so that Mr Aka could be sure of where to contact her while he was back in continental Europe (attending to business and/or looking for a home) to advise of sudden need for money for purchase or other urgency (baseball bats...). MB maybe mostly travelled alone in UK: too risky to return to familiar haunts and be seen with new partner and also seems an impatient tour guide. But MB may have talked to someone where she stayed and mentioned how she found the place or left comment in visitor book to make connection. Burwash seems v. small town with lots of old families.
All IMO.

 

[Sillybilly]

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334607/

Maybe , I will recheck the path i took

I don’t know if she is a teacher.. I found a teacher in itzig posted a pic yesterday in this thread and a link to the school magazine.. coincidently there is also a Remakel associated with this school

ok

i could have sworn RB raved on about her being intelligent and a teacher blah blah because i recall thinking he liked teachers

 

[centred]

It looks to me as though it’s up a private road. It’s so secluded round there. How on earth did they come across such a property?

According to google maps it is only a 3min drive to a school on the other side of town and out lying neighbors surround the Manor as well .
IMO a perfect place to live in the manor born ...

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Only 33 mins to Tunbridge Wells

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Winchester Cathedral view along coastal path through Brighton " Portsmith " all roads with 3 hours of Tunbridge "

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[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Maybe , I will recheck the path i took

ok

i could have sworn RB raved on about her being intelligent and a teacher blah blah because i recall thinking he liked teachers

Maybe he did I’d have to Re listen to inquest.