Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #23

[KinseyFan]

Found online this pdf document by The Coalition Against Insurance Fraud, Inc., 2017 called Fraud in life and disability insurance. Although it’s from the United States, it outlines many different insurance fraud scenarios.

https://insurancefraud.org/wp-content/uploads/2017-Coalition_life_disability_report.pdf

Some interesting extracts …
Page 7
“Murder for life insurance. Unlike how this crime is portrayed in the movies, it is perhaps the most horrific aspect of insurance fraud. While victims typically are spouses and lovers, the greed for life insurance money increasingly has been a motive in the murders of children and business partners.
This type of fraud has a long history going back to previous centuries when there was little, if any, regulation of who could take out policies on whom.
Today, the typical cases that come to light mostly involve spouses murdering spouses. In a few notorious cases, men have intentionally married well-off women to kill them for large payouts. And in some cases, perpetrators have killed more than once. Death in such cases comes in a variety of ways — shooting, drowning, being pushed off a cliff, electrocution, etc.
Unless the perpetrator gets convicted or there’s other overwhelming evidence, insurers usually pay these claims.”

Page 8
“Fraudulent loans against life policies. This scam originated with dishonest insurance agents who had access to essential client information required to take out a loan against the policy. The agents would submit a change of address for policies they control and then request a loan.
This scam also is perpetrated by people who get access to stolen personal identity information and then phish insurers until they find an identity that has a life policy tied to the ID. They then will either take out a loan against the policy or surrender it for cash value.”

Page 19
“Q. What are obstacles your agency faces in either accepting or investigating life and disability cases?
• Life cases involving claimants or policyholders residing or dying off-shore”

I may be way off base going down this track but then again, maybe not!

IMOO

Wow. This could explain a lot!

 

[KinseyFan]

If Centrelink / the ATO / Immigration haven’t already swooped - (surely we would have heard?) - does this mean they won’t because all the name changes were legal? That the fault is in our systems, policies, procedures, etc? Making rigorous advocacy to elected members of parliament the only way to change things? (Which doesn’t help find Marion)

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I'm hoping behind the scenes, his whole life is still being investigated, both by LE here, and in other countries.
Also that there are investigative journalists both here and overseas, trying to unravel his life and crimes.

What I don't think I'd like is for him to be deported, and possibly out of reach of justice here.

He needs to be here for when enough evidence of what he did to Marion comes to light.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Wouldn't it be great if he did write a truthful memoir of his life.

It could be a Mr Big sting

 

[KiwiNZ]

Some question over whether she actually knew her name had been changed. When her new passport application (under Florabella) was witnessed by the dentist in Brisbane in May 1997 he couldn’t categorically confirm he actually saw her. He could only confirm she had been a patient in the last 3 years. He just signed off numerous requests like these. Could anyone have turned up and handed it in and collected it?

If it was someone else, a coincident that they happen to go to Marion owned dentist or majorly risky that they assumed he or reception didn’t know Marion by sight and turn up to get it signed. I would say neither are plausible IMO, I believe it was Marion, I don’t think anyone else would use someone who Marion knew, just get a JP to sign