GUILTY Australia - Masa Vukotic, 17, brutally murdered, Doncaster, Melbourne, 17 March 2015

[Fuskier]

Thanks for alerting us Katie. Appreciated. It's relevant to the context we're outraged about: Victorian Government and Victorian Parole Board.

 

[they'll get you]

The killing of the 17-year-old schoolgirl has also reignited calls for judicial reform. A rally at Parliament House has been planned for April 12.

The Facebook group planning the protest under the banner "Enough is Enough" has attracted more than 4000 "likes" since it was set up on Friday.

"We are rallying for the judiciary to do their job and support the people, not the perpetrators," its organisers said.

The local mayor, Paul McLeish, yesterday said it would be impossible to monitor the 313 open parks and reserves in the city of Manningham with CCTV.

But he said it was the responsibility of governments and individuals to "come together and support each other and prevent violence in our community by changing community's attitudes towards women and family violence."

A public parade will be held next Saturday at the Queen Victoria Gardens, in the St Kilda Road arts precinct. Organisers are asking people to provide pink helium balloons, and 17 doves will be released.


http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/c...e-of-masa-vukotics-death-20150321-1m4i7a.html

 

[Ausgirl]

But he said it was the responsibility of governments and individuals to "come together and support each other and prevent violence in our community by changing community's attitudes towards women and family violence."

What planet is this guy on???

The "community" can't do anything to keep violent and predatory offenders behind bars! :facepalm:

And the Govt's answer to domestic violence seems to be commissioning more posters and slogans and talky committees. Big whoop. What about serious jail time for psychotic husbands and dads, when they FIRST make threats against life? What about not waiting until the victims are dead? What about mandatory LWP or lifetime max. security psych hospital for cut and dried, violent murder instead of 15-20 years? How about attempted murder with a weapon being treated the same as murder? It's like they penalise the victim for surviving!!!!! I could just blow a gasket.

I am SO happy about this "Enough is Enough" rally. I am 100% there in spirit, and am very sad I cannot be there in person. Because this is what we need right now - constant, loud and unrelenting protest about the Govt's utter failure to protect its people in one very obvious and easily changed way.

 

[zwiebel]

Hi everyone, I'm new here, though I've been a lurker for awhile.

This case has absolutely devastated me. I can't even expressed how frustrated and rage-filled I feel. But I also wanted to say how refreshing it is to read all of your comments, and how there is absolutely no victim blaming here. It's comforting to know others don't see it as a fact of life that women are going to be killed and need to adjust their behaviour accordingly, but are willing to completely lay the blame where it truly lies: on the men who choose to commit violent acts against women.

On another note, I watched SP's youtube videos, and as garbled as they are, a couple of things stuck out to me (aside from his obviously disturbed mental state). 1., his fixation with the "rape" of his ears. How ironic is it that he is so disturbed by this, given what he's just been charged with? This is someone unable to feel sympathy for anyone but himself. 2., he mentions Rosie Batty and feminists in his videos, even blaming Rosie for the death of her son. This is a man who hates women.

Anyway, thank you all again for your posts, they offered me a lot of comfort last night when I most needed it.

Welcome, StarryVeck! So sorry it's such a tragic case that's brought you here. I have many family members in Australia and these cases that seem to keep happening really worry me too.

 

[zwiebel]

BBM. Hi Zwiebel, he can say that before the magistrate, but it depends upon which Law applies to him once he is assessed. He has allegedly murdered an innocent victim in a brutal stabbing, then violently assaulted two others who needed to be taken to hospital, and violently subdued another woman in a bookshop, allegedly began to rape her, but was interrupted by other men who chased him away. He is a clear danger to others in or out of prison. IMO he will be medicated in a 'takedown' by injection. This procedure is used for inpatients suffering paranoid schizophrenia who refuse reasonable requests to take their medication. My opinion only.

Thank you for the info. Can't even say what I think of this suspect roaming free....

 

[they'll get you]

THE accused killer of Doncaster schoolgirl Masa Vukotic has started prison life under constant watch and isolated from other inmates.
Sean Price, 31, will only get a maximum of two hours outside his secure cell each day, partly to protect him from the rage of other prisoners.
Price is believed to be held at the Melbourne Assessment Prison as authorities decide on where to house him in the longer term.
It is unlikely he will stay at MAP until his next court date on June 26.
Those wanting to visit him will also be screened closely to avoid any vigilante behaviour.

http://www.news.com.au/national/vic.../story-fnii5sms-1227272986979?from=public_rss

 

[they'll get you]

Masa, 17, was known as Princess Marci, or Sparklehime, to her followers. Her tumblr account features an abundance of pink and pastel colours, with references to her favourite cartoon characters. She also liked rabbits, which featured prominently on her page.

Blogger Emerson posted this artwork with a note: "You were an amazing friend, full of charisma and determination. We will never forget you.‪"






http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/outp...ncess-marci-masa-vukotic-20150320-1m3n0w.html

 

[fruity]

http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...a-vukotic-murder/story-fnii5sms-1227272712105

A very good read, but much too long for me to paste bits and pieces.

 

[~Katie~]

What planet is this guy on???

The "community" can't do anything to keep violent and predatory offenders behind bars! :facepalm:

And the Govt's answer to domestic violence seems to be commissioning more posters and slogans and talky committees. Big whoop. What about serious jail time for psychotic husbands and dads, when they FIRST make threats against life? What about not waiting until the victims are dead? What about mandatory LWP or lifetime max. security psych hospital for cut and dried, violent murder instead of 15-20 years? How about attempted murder with a weapon being treated the same as murder? It's like they penalise the victim for surviving!!!!! I could just blow a gasket.

I am SO happy about this "Enough is Enough" rally. I am 100% there in spirit, and am very sad I cannot be there in person. Because this is what we need right now - constant, loud and unrelenting protest about the Govt's utter failure to protect its people in one very obvious and easily changed way.

Completely agree. People like Sean Price don't care about community attitudes towards violence.

He even stated himself that "people who commit these crimes don't think about the consequences"

In one of the videos - seen by Daily Mail Australia - he [Sean Price] shares his thoughts on criminals. 'These people who do these crimes don't think about the consequences and the aftermath. It's all about having a good time, about instant gratification,' he says.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005919/My-ears-feelings-real-bizarre-rantings-man-charged-stabbing-schoolgirl-Masa-Vukotic-death-posted-online-two-weeks-murder.html

Does the mayor honestly believe that individuals rallying together to change community attitudes towards violence will stop people like this from reoffending??

 

[they'll get you]

http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...a-vukotic-murder/story-fnii5sms-1227272712105

A very good read, but much too long for me to paste bits and pieces.

Interesting reading thank you fruity.
:cheers:

 

[Nacho]

The murder of Luke Batty is a perfect example of the limitations of the community. Luke's mother reported the violence she suffered through and nothing was done! At this point, it has nothing to do with the communities responsibilities. It's about making these disgusting criminals serve the time they deserve. And that is all on the government, the judges. Victims of crime are constantly getting screwed over by sentencing.
What could Masa have done to avoid this? She wasn't out in a dangerous area or late at night. She wasn't engaging in any dangerous activities. SP doesn't even live in the area now!!

I should stop before I get into trouble..I'm not sure how much venting is allowed on here

Does anyone have a link to the events they are holding for Masa? I'm interested in going but I can't find anything on Facebook. Thank you in advance

 

[Fuskier]

The murder of Luke Batty is a perfect example of the limitations of the community. Luke's mother reported the violence she suffered through and nothing was done! At this point, it has nothing to do with the communities responsibilities. It's about making these disgusting criminals serve the time they deserve. And that is all on the government, the judges. Victims of crime are constantly getting screwed over by sentencing.
What could Masa have done to avoid this? She wasn't out in a dangerous area or late at night. She wasn't engaging in any dangerous activities. SP doesn't even live in the area now!!

I should stop before I get into trouble..I'm not sure how much venting is allowed on here

Does anyone have a link to the events they are holding for Masa? I'm interested in going but I can't find anything on Facebook. Thank you in advance

Hi Nacho, here is a link:
1) https://www.facebook.com/events/1377376352569125/

I believe that there is a rally organised to meet at the Victorian Parliament House on 12th April 2015 at 11.00am to stand up for a safer city.

2) There was a march today: https://www.facebook.com/events/418462348315334/

3) Here are the organisers for another march: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Enough-is-Enough/858903817506855

Hope these links are helpful.

 

[they'll get you]

We've been down this track before.


Thousands march to reclaim the night
Date October 20, 2012

Around 5000 people have marched against "victim blaming" in a Reclaim the Night rally, following the alleged abduction and murder of Melbourne woman Jill Meagher.





http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/thousands-march-to-reclaim-the-night-20121020-27yln.html

 

[spiritualdreaming]

We've been down this track before.


Thousands march to reclaim the night
Date October 20, 2012

Around 5000 people have marched against "victim blaming" in a Reclaim the Night rally, following the alleged abduction and murder of Melbourne woman Jill Meagher.





http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/thousands-march-to-reclaim-the-night-20121020-27yln.html

Sad thing is though these things stop after the novelty wears off.

It takes manpower and pure persistents to get the results....not giving up when a speed bump is hit.

All these group's need to join under one group and take it all the way until CHANGE is made this time.

Noel McNamara from Crime Victim's Support Association has dedicated many years to get change in the Judicial Law and I feel it's time we all join him and get the job done.

I'm a victim from the lenient Victorian Legal System that allowed my sister's killer to virtually walk free with a slap on the wrist.

http://www.cvsa.asn.au/

 

[they'll get you]

Sad thing is though these things stop after the novelty wears off.

It takes manpower and pure persistents to get the results....not giving up when a speed bump is hit.

All these group's need to join under one group and take it all the way until CHANGE is made this time.

Noel McNamara from Crime Victim's Support Association has dedicated many years to get change in the Judicial Law and I feel it's time we all join him and get the job done.

I'm a victim from the lenient Victorian Legal System that allowed my sister's killer to virtually walk free with a slap on the wrist.

http://www.cvsa.asn.au/

Spiritualdreaming a huge group hug for you and your family.

:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
RIP Tracey
:rose:

 

[Nacho]

Hi Nacho, here is a link:
1) https://www.facebook.com/events/1377376352569125/

I believe that there is a rally organised to meet at the Victorian Parliament House on 12th April 2015 at 11.00am to stand up for a safer city.

2) There was a march today: https://www.facebook.com/events/418462348315334/

3) Here are the organisers for another march: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Enough-is-Enough/858903817506855

Hope these links are helpful.

Thank you for the links I missed the one today which is unfortunate, I'm actually fairly close to Doncaster. I'll be attending the one on the 12th and making any effort I can and beyond to help achieve change. I'm fortunate enough to not be a close victim of this failing justice system. But I'm not going to stand around while the bad guys are treated better than victims. It's not ok.

 

[Amee]

Masa Vukotic funeral at Springvale Botanical Cemetery on Thursday

THE family of Masa Vukotic will lay the Doncaster teenager to rest on Thursday.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...alSF&utm_source=HaraldSun&utm_medium=Facebook


:rose:

 

[Blessed]

Masa Vukotic funeral at Springvale Botanical Cemetery on Thursday

THE family of Masa Vukotic will lay the Doncaster teenager to rest on Thursday.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...alSF&utm_source=HaraldSun&utm_medium=Facebook


:rose:

I work around 1 minute from this Cemetery. In fact, my office backs right onto it.

I am somewhat surprised that the family have released this information.

I hope that they receive the respect and privacy they deserve.

 

[they'll get you]

In addressing violence and gender inequality, we need to consistently focus on the needs of the victim and challenge the behaviour of the perpetrator and offender. Our focus should never be on what the victim could or should have done.

The judicial system, social services, and police, need to continually remind themselves why they do what they do. It is to keep the community safe and support the victims of crime in all we do.

At that time, there was every reason to be concerned the offender would strike again.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/re...journey-of-understanding-20150323-1m5b3c.html

 

[Fuskier]

In addressing violence and gender inequality, we need to consistently focus on the needs of the victim and challenge the behaviour of the perpetrator and offender. Our focus should never be on what the victim could or should have done.

The judicial system, social services, and police, need to continually remind themselves why they do what they do. It is to keep the community safe and support the victims of crime in all we do.

At that time, there was every reason to be concerned the offender would strike again.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/re...journey-of-understanding-20150323-1m5b3c.html

Thanks for this link they'll get you.
Article written by Tim Cartwright, Chief Commissioner, Victoria Police. It addresses the call Police must make when a random murderer is loose in the community; it is their job is to warn the community. That warning needs to be put in context that Police were doing what they could to prevent more attacks and identify this offender: "there was every reason to be concerned the offender would strike again"..

" ...I acknowledge that the focus on what the victim should do is flawed"."We must focus on holding perpetrators to account and support victims in all we do. But too often the first questions asked are about the behaviour of the victim. Victoria Police has acknowledged this as an organisation and we are taking steps to ensure everything we do is focused on turning this around" ... :clap: