Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #7

[JBowie]

Lynn is being torn limb from limb, just as some of us suspected he would be. Terrible tactical move to let him take the stand. Disastrous!

Hopefully, in the minds of the jury members, he's digging his own custodial grave.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Cross examination finished.

 

[drsleuth]

As it happened: What accused killer Gregory Lynn told the jury about missing campers’ deaths

Breaking his silence for the first time, Gregory Lynn revealed to the jury that his family found it “quite comical” how similar his car was to the Nissan Patrol police were searching for in the missing campers case. Follow our live updates.

www.theage.com.au

Gregory Lynn is admitting lying to his wife about his involvement in the case as media reports of the missing pair started to be published.
“The last thing I wanted to do was tell other people about it. I never mentioned anything to anyone. I still haven’t talked to them about it.“
Crown prosecutor Daniel Porceddu is asking about how prepared he was to lie to cover up the case:

Porceddu: When required you are prepared to be deceptive?
Lynn: I lied to my wife to protect her.
Porceddu: Didn’t you lie to your wife to protect yourself?
Lynn: No.

Greg Lynn finishes giving evidence after hours-long testimony in missing campers murder trial — as it happened

Greg Lynn has given his testimony in his murder trial in Victoria's Supreme Court. He has pleaded not guilty to murdering campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay in Victoria's High Country in 2020.

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Next, Greg Lynn was questioned about whether he told his wife, Melanie, about the ordeal.

Greg Lynn's wife Melanie.(ABC News: Patrick Rocca)
Asked why he wasn't upfront with his partner, Mr Lynn said the "last thing" he wanted to do was involve other people.

"I lied to my wife. I lied to my wife to protect her," Mr Lynn said.
"Didn't you lie to your wife to protect yourself?" prosecutor Daniel Porceddu countered.
"No. If I told her, she would then be involved in it," Mr Lynn replied.

Prosecutor Daniel Porceddu has taken his seat.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I find it hard to believe that he hasn't talked to his wife about it, after his arrest.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I wonder how many of his exclusive clubs have tried to distance themselves.

 

[crhedBngr]

I wonder how many of his exclusive clubs have tried to distance themselves.

If his membership in said clubs even exists.

JMVHO.

 

[discostu]

From The SMH:

The prosecution has finished their cross-examination and Lynn has been excused from the witness box.

The jury will now be sent away for the long weekend and begin hearing closing arguments on Tuesday.


There’s also some info in that coverage about why he left his car doors open with a gun inside the car.

 

[Tweet57]

I find it hard to believe that he hasn't talked to his wife about it, after his arrest.

I’m actually surprised wife is fronting to court each day, considering the events and evidence. I wonder if it’s support or actually gloating at his ‘potential holiday’. Feel for his children.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I am glad the jury got to hear his police interview.
The man on the stand seemed to be somehow different to the one giving the interview.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I feel terribly sad for Russell and Carols family and friends.

I also feel bad for his wife and son.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Greg Lynn finishes giving evidence after hours-long testimony in missing campers murder trial — as it happened

Greg Lynn has given his testimony in his murder trial in Victoria's Supreme Court. He has pleaded not guilty to murdering campers Russell Hill and Carol Clay in Victoria's High Country in 2020.

www.abc.net.au

The evidence in this case has now been presented to the jury, but before they go out to decide on their verdict the lawyers will have one more chance to pitch their case.

Prosecutor Daniel Porceddu and defence barrister Dermot Dann will make their closing arguments next week.

If you've seen an American court drama before, you'll have an idea of what it'll be like.

One difference in Australian courts though, is that the lawyers don't go walking around the courtroom and up to the jury box.

They remain at the bar table, where microphones pick up their every word for an official court transcript.

Once the closing arguments are completed, Justice Michael Croucher will give his final "charge" to the jury and take them through legal points they will need to consider.

Then the case, and Greg Lynn's future, are in the jury's hands.

"Your verdict, whether it be guilty or not guilty of any charge, must be unanimous," Justice Croucher told the jury on the opening day of the trial.

 

[CredibleSauce]

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/greg-lynn-trial-expilot-set-to-share-account-of-missing-campers-russell-hill-and-carol-clay-deaths/news-story/f948f55547dcef84d89dc11863769aa2

Prosecutors have accused Mr Lynn of trying to provoke a response from Mr Hill by playing his music loudly at night.

I wasn’t trying to provoke a response, if he was rude I could be rude too,” he responded.

“You were being a pest?,” Mr Porceddu asked.

“Yes,” Mr Lynn replied.

Mr Porceddu accused Mr Lynn of firing several shots at Mrs Clay, later telling police there were shots fired into the air as a “cover” for if others had heard.

His barrister, Dermot Dann KC, interjected, saying it was “improper” for the prosecution to make up a version of events “in desperation”.

Justice Croucher agreed, saying the prosecution was “inventing” an account without evidence.

Wow sophisticated psychological move GL and Dann. Hit em with the old “I know you are but what am I ” allegation.
Who could ever doubt your masterful story and intelligence.

Projection, the mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds. The concept was introduced to psychology by the Austrian psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud (1856–1939)

 

[JudgeJudi]

While there's a lull until Tuesday, here's an update re my tip to Crimestoppers.

I didn’t disclose in my post what it was because it’s not unknown for police in Oz to read WS (the Claremont serial killer case in WA). I think it’s now safe to say what the tip was.

I said that as recently as April 2021 (13 months after the murders) GL posted on social media that he’d been camping at Lake Cobbler, a shallow lake about 65km from the Wonnangatta Valley. As his trailer was still missing, perhaps VicPol might consider looking there. Regrettably nothing came of it as it’s still missing.

Fresh insights into man arrested over missing Victoria campers

I'm surprised the Prosecutor never asked him about the trailer.

 

[mrjitty]

While there's a lull until Tuesday, here's an update re my tip to Crimestoppers.

I didn’t disclose in my post what it was because it’s not unknown for police in Oz to read WS (the Claremont serial killer case in WA). I think it’s now safe to say what the tip was.

I said that as recently as April 2021 (13 months after the murders) GL posted on social media that he’d been camping at Lake Cobbler, a shallow lake about 65km from the Wonnangatta Valley. As his trailer was still missing, perhaps VicPol might consider looking there. Regrettably nothing came of it as it’s still missing.

Fresh insights into man arrested over missing Victoria campers

I'm surprised the Prosecutor never asked him about the trailer.

Do we know where it went according to GL?

 

[mrjitty]

Honestly i find his story completely unbelievable.

The idea an elderly gentleman comes to his campsite and gets his gun out - is silly in the first place, let alone that he then has a wrestling match over it and shoots the female victim. Then after all that, the male also dies by accident in the fight - lol. What a bad day at the office.

 

[JBowie]

I'm surprised the Prosecutor never asked him about the trailer.

I'd love to hear him answer that question!

I'm not a lawyer, but It's my understanding that prosecutors don't usually ask witnesses questions about facts/acts that they don't already have the answers for, so that when a witness lies, he/she can rebut immediately with proof of the lie.

Police allege that Lynn tried to sell his trailer on Gumtree in an attempt to distance himself from the deaths. The trailer has never been located. (bbm)

I guess the prosecutor could say: "You didn't sell it, you chopped it up and disposed of it, didn't you?"

Presumably Lynn would deny that, but the thought has now entered the jurors' minds -- as long as the judge allowed the question.

 

[crhedBngr]

I went back and started rereading posts on the very first thread, including posts by RH's friend @Motomike and someone who possibly is a pilot, @Ramjet .

I found said reading to be a good review of this case.

JMVHO.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

While there's a lull until Tuesday, here's an update re my tip to Crimestoppers.

I didn’t disclose in my post what it was because it’s not unknown for police in Oz to read WS (the Claremont serial killer case in WA). I think it’s now safe to say what the tip was.

I said that as recently as April 2021 (13 months after the murders) GL posted on social media that he’d been camping at Lake Cobbler, a shallow lake about 65km from the Wonnangatta Valley. As his trailer was still missing, perhaps VicPol might consider looking there. Regrettably nothing came of it as it’s still missing.

Fresh insights into man arrested over missing Victoria campers

I'm surprised the Prosecutor never asked him about the trailer.

was this his fb or insta?

 

[Skyboy90]

Your verdict, whether it be guilty or not guilty of any charge, must be unanimous," Justice Croucher told the jury on the opening day of the trial.

Can someone please enlighten us folks who know nothing about this sort of stuff, advise what happens next if found Guilty or Not Guilty.

Is he essentially free to leave if found NG?

 

[mam544]

This Age article says that Lynn claims Russell came at him with a black handled kitchen knife. And that he later burned the knife and the drone, after he pulled the knife out of Russell's chest.

Did the police find the metal remains of these items? Would a knife's blade completely disintegrate in a fire?

‘I’m innocent’: Lynn tells cops when charged with murder

In a recorded interview played to a Supreme Court jury, the former pilot said he knew he was on police’s radar.

www.theage.com.au

Lynn said he threw the knife in the river. it has not been found.